Newt Gingrich will be the next President.. Giuliani as VP.

brxndxn

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I wanted to go ahead and make this prediction and get laughed at hysterically while everything is still early.

Newt, bad history and all, is going to come out swinging.. He'll think outside the party and say the harsh things that need to be said. He won't linger on buzz-word issues of gay-marraige, abortion, global warming, etc.. Instead, he'll get to the down and dirty and say things in a non political way. America will fall in love with his honesty.. something lacking in every other political candidate except for Giuliani in this race..

Hilary will fall flat on her face with something very Howard Dean-like early in the race. Obama's inexperience will be tested and he will have a tough time holding his own with the seasoned politicians.

Newt/Giuliani 2008.. woot!

/little bit of wishful thinking on my part..
 

loup garou

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Might want to brush up on your spelling of our future VP's last name since you'll undoubtedly be typing it a lot in the future.
 

brxndxn

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Originally posted by: loup garou
Might want to brush up on your spelling of our future VP's last name since you'll undoubtedly be typing it a lot in the future.

thanks.. fixed
 

Stunt

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In other news...DeLay has denounced the McCain, Giuliani bids...they instantly move up a notch in my books :)
 

ProfJohn

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Newt is probably one of the best conservative voices in politics.
But he was so demonized by Democrats that he might have a hard time rising above that.

Then again if he goes up against a strong liberal it would result in a great election based on ideas.
Will be very interesting to see what happens with Newt, he says he won't run till the fall? He might be one of the few that can wait that long and still do it.
McCain, Giuliani, Newt and Romney, the big 4, after them everyone else doesn't really have a prayer.
 

dahunan

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Why not DeLay and Pastor Ted?

Anyhow.. you might want to check into products that help you get a clean urinalysis in case your workplace springs one on ya...
 

UberNeuman

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Newt is probably one of the best conservative voices in politics.
But he was so demonized by Democrats that he might have a hard time rising above that.

ah, yeah... it's the Democrats fault that Newt left his first wife as she lay in the hospital recovering from cancer surgery.....

He's Americas next sweetheart - and just in time for Valentine's Day....
 

Jaskalas

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I like Newt a lot, though I?m not confident I know his polices enough. I do fear putting another Bush into office.
 

compuwiz1

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Buwahahahahaha! :D :laugh:
BTW, anyone predicting Hilary as a shoe in, will get the same response from me.
 

Lemon law

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Doonesbury has Newt pegged right---he is excellent as a bomb thrower---and someone to advance the cause of the radical right when they are out of power---but when it comes to being in power and asked to actually be part of the government---he flops faster than the speed of light. As the events leading up to election of 1998 totally make clear. Newt is simply another jerk who is a legend in his own mind. Give his ideas a chance in a political arena or the real world---and you are talking instant train wreck when tried in practice.

But listen to Newt talk---and its apparent he has learned zero in the last eight years about his take no prisoners approach to politics. But now he is back in his element---out of favor, still throwing bombs, and writing his own wrongheaded version of revisionist history. Some people are just best ignored. Because they otherwise never shut up.---and also are incapable of shame.
 

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Originally posted by: Lemon law
Doonesbury has Newt pegged right---he is excellent as a bomb thrower---and someone to advance the cause of the radical right when they are out of power---but when it comes to being in power and asked to actually be part of the government---he flops faster than the speed of light. As the events leading up to election of 1998 totally make clear. Newt is simply another jerk who is a legend in his own mind. Give his ideas a chance in a political arena or the real world---and you are talking instant train wreck when tried in practice.

But listen to Newt talk---and its apparent he has learned zero in the last eight years about his take no prisoners approach to politics. But now he is back in his element---out of favor, still throwing bombs, and writing his own wrongheaded version of revisionist history. Some people are just best ignored. Because they otherwise never shut up.---and also are incapable of shame.

Actually, Newt is one of the brightest minds in politics today. He was a key part of the "true" conservative Republican ascendancy in the mid-90's. While many parts of teh "Contract with America" did not get thru due to minority Democrat obstruction, the concept did galvanize teh public at teh time to change direction.

Unfortunaltely, our current Republican leadership seems to have abandoned conservative principles for no principles at all it seems. I won't support Newt for president as I think he would hurt ore than help the cause, but as a strategist, anyone who taps into is knowledge will have an advantage over other candidates.
 

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Originally posted by: dphantom
Originally posted by: Lemon law
Doonesbury has Newt pegged right---he is excellent as a bomb thrower---and someone to advance the cause of the radical right when they are out of power---but when it comes to being in power and asked to actually be part of the government---he flops faster than the speed of light. As the events leading up to election of 1998 totally make clear. Newt is simply another jerk who is a legend in his own mind. Give his ideas a chance in a political arena or the real world---and you are talking instant train wreck when tried in practice.

But listen to Newt talk---and its apparent he has learned zero in the last eight years about his take no prisoners approach to politics. But now he is back in his element---out of favor, still throwing bombs, and writing his own wrongheaded version of revisionist history. Some people are just best ignored. Because they otherwise never shut up.---and also are incapable of shame.

Actually, Newt is one of the brightest minds in politics today. He was a key part of the "true" conservative Republican ascendancy in the mid-90's. While many parts of teh "Contract with America" did not get thru due to minority Democrat obstruction, the concept did galvanize teh public at teh time to change direction.

Unfortunaltely, our current Republican leadership seems to have abandoned conservative principles for no principles at all it seems. I won't support Newt for president as I think he would hurt ore than help the cause, but as a strategist, anyone who taps into is knowledge will have an advantage over other candidates.

Not to nitpick but could you maybe proof read next time? No offense.
 
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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
I like Newt a lot, though I?m not confident I know his polices enough. I do fear putting another Bush into office.

You should read his book. You'll get a ton of insight into how he thinks and what his agenda will be. Especially on health care issues and immigration. *heads up dems - a Republican with a real health care plan* He's actually my favorite of all the R candidates right now.

That said, I don't think he has a snowball's chance in hell of getting the nom.
 

bamacre

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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
That said, I don't think he has a snowball's chance in hell of getting the nom.

Yeah, I agree. I will say one thing, I think he's a very talented speaker. Maybe not as good as Bill Clinton, but he's up there. He comes across as a calm, rational, and intelligent person.
 

Lemon law

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He comes across as a calm, rational, and intelligent person.

So do the neocons who got us into this Iraq mess---look beneath the surface of Newt's ideas---and look at his track record----he is a dangerous man not to be trusted.
 

bamacre

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Originally posted by: Lemon law
He comes across as a calm, rational, and intelligent person.

So do the neocons who got us into this Iraq mess---look beneath the surface of Newt's ideas---and look at his track record----he is a dangerous man not to be trusted.

I didn't say I'd vote for him. :D

Just commenting on his speaking skills. Even Clinton was a liar, just very talented at doing so.

And no, Bush does NOT come across as a calm, rational, and intelligent person. Cheney on the other hand, actually does, he's a fairly talented speaker as well.

Bush comes across as a very dumb guy, honest but dumb. He also sounds incredibly defensive in almost everything he says.
 

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Originally posted by: brxndxn

Hilary will fall flat on her face with something very Howard Dean-like early in the race. Obama's inexperience will be tested and he will have a tough time holding his own with the seasoned politicians.

Newt/Giuliani 2008.. woot!


Hillary has so much money, that it is difficult seeing how she doesn't win the nomination. The only thing that would derail her is an Al Gore run. Gore would be able to raise a ton of cash overnight if he wanted to.

On the GOP side, there are a bunch of guys with baggage. Romney is a Mormon trying to play to Christians and has been all over the place on abortion and other social issues. McCain is really getting plastered right now because of his outspoken support of the Iraq occupation/war. Rudy has way too many questions about his social stances and - man that picture of him in drag is going to be like an anchor around his neck.

If well financed, I can see Newt distinguishing himself from the others GOP hopefuls. He has stuff in his past like all the others, but he is more articulate than any of these guys, plus he has no finger prints on the Iraq fiasco (which would be a huge plus if he was running against Hillary in the General Election).

Also Huckabee (sp?) - dark horse, no name buzz right now, but here is a guy with less baggage than the rest of them. Seems like the guy is a big time conservative so if he can get a little traction, he could be a player.

Hillary against anybody it is probably very slight advantage GOP. Gore wins easily if he runs.

 

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I'm sorry, but you're wrong. I actually wouldn't mind Gingrich as President, but I highly doubt it'll happen. If it does come to fruition, I'll give you props.
 

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Rudy is a smart pick for VP. Too much bagage for President, but has the name for a VP candidate.



but Newt....lol...come on....
 

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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
I like Newt a lot, though I?m not confident I know his polices enough. I do fear putting another Bush into office.

Newt isn't anything like Bush, hell Bush isn't like most Republicans
 

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Originally posted by: Lemon law
Doonesbury has Newt pegged right---he is excellent as a bomb thrower---and someone to


Oh yeah, political analysis from the comics. Well at least we know the basis for your opinions now.
 

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Shewt Newt...
or was it Shoot Noot? ;)

Arnold Schwartzaneg, in 2012. I be back! :laugh:

 

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People have short memories. Hell, I would bet a poll would show a majority of Americans wouldn't even know who Newt is. And if the Dems brought up his slightly dirty laundry, it could backfire on them. People are getting tired of the mudslinging.