Newt Gingrich or Barack Obama?

[zsdersw]

I voted "neither".

If you seriously believe any Republican candidate or the incumbent Democrat is going to make things any significant amount better than the last four years I've got some ocean-front property in Wyoming to sell you.

 

[Atreus21]

They'll vote for anyone but Obama. The devil himself could put an R next to his name and the repubs would vote for him over Obama.

...what does this remind me of...

 

[Atreus21]

I voted "neither".

If you seriously believe anyone is going to make things any significant amount better than the last four years I've got some ocean-front property in Wyoming to sell you.

Fixed that for you.

 

[cybrsage]

If this was the case, Bush and Cheney would already be on trial for war crimes.

This would require the US to be part of the world court, which is in violation of the US Constitution (there can be no court above the Supreme Court).

Then, it would require actual war crimes to have been committed.

Since the US is neither part of the world court nor were war crimes committed, you fail.

 

[cybrsage]

I voted "neither".

If you seriously believe any Republican candidate or the incumbent Democrat is going to make things any significant amount better than the last four years I've got some ocean-front property in Wyoming to sell you.

Sad thing is that a write in or no voting is actually voting for Obama.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

...what does this remind me of...

Those same people voting for Bush.

 

[airdata]

This would require the US to be part of the world court, which is in violation of the US Constitution (there can be no court above the Supreme Court).i.e)we can commit whatever crimes we want and not be held accountable.
Then, it would require actual war crimes to have been committed.
Since the US is neither part of the world court nor were war crimes committed, you fail.

Fail at what?

lemme see... google.... dick+cheney+war+crimes

Hell, I'll even post the CBS News link

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20099720-503544.html

They said Iraq had WMD as a reason to get people to back war with iraq. We know that was complete bs now. Then they bomb the country to hell and give Halliburton billions of dollars. Haliburten can't account for some 80+ billion in tax payer money because they do things like invoice us $50+ for a 6 pack of soda and stuff like that. This is all documented and you can go research it on your own.

In some places they consider that war crimes alone even before you even tally up the million or so civilians killed by our military.

Cheney also gave the orders to shoot down flight 93.



This is interesting. War with libya, syria, iran pre planned since 2007 or before.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAS_q5TYkSg

 

[cybrsage]

Fail at what?

lemme see... google.... dick+cheney+war+crimes

No thanks, I expect you to support yourself.

Hell, I'll even post the CBS News link

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20099720-503544.html

That link says he fears it, not that he is one.

They said Iraq had WMD as a reason to get people to back war with iraq. We know that was complete bs now. Then they bomb the country to hell and give Halliburton billions of dollars. Haliburten can't account for some 80+ billion in tax payer money because they do things like invoice us $50+ for a 6 pack of soda and stuff like that. This is all documented and you can go research it on your own.

None of those are war crimes.

In some places they consider that war crimes alone even before you even tally up the million or so civilians killed by our military.

Where?

Cheney also gave the orders to shoot down flight 93.

Still not a war crime. Had the two which hit the twin towers been shot down, thousands would be alive. The people in the planes were arleady dead (as in, no chance of survival).

This is interesting. War with libya, syria, iran pre planned since 2007 or before.

Obama started the war in Libya...Bush and Cheney have not been in office for years.

Not a single thing you said supports your position that they are war criminals. At least TRY to support yourself.


EDIT: I see you are not a fan of the Constitution. In order for the World Court to be legal in the US, the Constitution must be amended to allow it.

 

[IronWing]

This would require the US to be part of the world court, which is in violation of the US Constitution (there can be no court above the Supreme Court).

Then, it would require actual war crimes to have been committed.

Since the US is neither part of the world court nor were war crimes committed, you fail.

This is incorrect on all counts. The prosecution of war crimes has nothing to do with the world court. As a signatory to the Nuremberg Principles (the US wrote them) the US is obligated to prosecute war crimes. The invasion of Iraq was a war of aggression, an enumerated war crime (Crimes Against Peace, Principle VI.a.1) under the Nuremberg Principles and Bush and his gang of weirdos are war criminals.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_principles

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Obama with zero hesitation.

 

[Macamus Prime]

I say go for broke; vote Newt.

We can invade Iran within moments of when Newt is sworn. He can then put up that brick all all of you have been foaming at the mouth about. And, you can start demanding the poor give all their money to the rich - because the poor will use whatever money they have on drugs.

 

[airdata]

This is incorrect on all counts. The prosecution of war crimes has nothing to do with the world court. As a signatory to the Nuremberg Principles (the US wrote them) the US is obligated to prosecute war crimes. The invasion of Iraq was a war of aggression, an enumerated war crime (Crimes Against Peace, Principle VI.a.1) under the Nuremberg Principles and Bush and his gang of weirdos are war criminals.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_principles

Damn... you just owned him.

 

[Wr3ckin_Cr3w]

The election is today. Who would you vote for? Newt Gingrich or Barack Obama?

It amazes me that Newt is surging in the polls. The tea party supporters hate the Washington establishment, yet they now find themselves supporting the candidate who is the walking embodiment of the Washington establishment all because they don't want to vote for a Mormon.

This. This. This. And This.

New Gingrich is the ultimate piece of shit. Everything he has done in life has been for him and only him. I'm amazed at the amount of stupid fucking people who support him and do not realize that.

 

[Wr3ckin_Cr3w]

This is incorrect on all counts. The prosecution of war crimes has nothing to do with the world court. As a signatory to the Nuremberg Principles (the US wrote them) the US is obligated to prosecute war crimes. The invasion of Iraq was a war of aggression, an enumerated war crime (Crimes Against Peace, Principle VI.a.1) under the Nuremberg Principles and Bush and his gang of weirdos are war criminals.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_principles

ROFL! Owned!

Btw, Obama didn't start the war in Libya, the Libyra rebels did. Obama aided without losing a single American soldier and just under $1 billion....how many lives/dollars did we lose in Iraq?

 

[the DRIZZLE]

Newt is a very smart guy (smarter than Obama IMO) but he has the same problem as Obama. He's not a leader and can't sell people on his ideas. He would also be just as bad as Obama as a manager of the executive branch of government. I would like to see him a role in crafting policy if another Republican wins.

 

[DrPizza]

That should tell you something about Obama. Think about it, many people would vote for Hillary with an R next to her name over Obama...and that should frighten us all that Obama is just that reviled.

Are you kidding? They could but a D next to Jesus, and an R next to the Devil, and if Rush & Fox News told them to vote R, they would.

 

[shortylickens]

Obama wants to sell out America and Newt wants to rebuild it in his white protestant perfect image.
I dunno which is worse.

 

[Hugo Drax]

If Newt is nominated. You can with a 100% certainty guarantee Obama will be re-elected**













** Unless he dies from illness or accident/assasination/acts of god.

 

[kage69]

In order for me to vote for Newt he'd have to be running against someone in a vegetative state.
Given the last 2 years of teapublican invective I'm almost to the point where the rest of them are in the same fail boat as Newt.

Obama, easy choice.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

We need a "none of the above" option at the polls.

 

[bradley]

I voted neither, not an idealistic watered-down Marxist or crony capitalist. Not the VAT tax with Cain, or Romneycare, or someone who can't even remember his own talking points in Rick Perry. I would much sooner vote for Steve Perry. I do not like them, Sam I am.

 

[ShawnD1]

Does it really matter who anyone votes for? They're both owned by the same corporation. This is as stupid as saying HP computers are better than Compaq computers. They both suck and need to die. The computers I mean.

 

[Ausm]

If this was the case, Bush and Cheney would already be on trial for war crimes.

Cheney already doesn't goto alot of places overseas because they'll arrest him.

QFT

 

[Ausm]

Obama supporters supposedly hate corporate ownership of government, secretive government programs, lobbyists, and all that... Yet they'll still vote for the man who has embraced all of that to a degree never before seen. This is a fact. What gives?

If that was the case then why isn't the Right genuflecting in front of him then?

 

[thraashman]

Well since for the last 10+ the (R) next to a candidates name has become synonymous with Retard as well as much as Republican, I won't be voting for anyone with an (R) in the foreseeable future. I'm not thrilled with the far too conservative policies of Obama, but the other option would be someone who is a horrific monster of a human being (anyone Republican).