Newt Gingrich: Gingrich: Republicans have 'zero' health care ideas

[Anarchist420]

(i would rather have single payer though)

Single payer won't address the cost issues either... if we want reduced costs, then it's either socialism or the free market (and I don't want socialism).

 

[BlueWolf47]

THIS is why conservatives are so full of shit when they bitch about Obamacare:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...heat_for_romneycare_by_santorum_gingrich.html



Conservatives are just flat out embarrassing and nothing justifies your existence.

that just made me pee.

 

[Jaskalas]

"I will bet you, for most of you, you go home in the next two weeks when your members of Congress are home, and you look them in the eye and you say, 'What is your positive replacement for Obamacare?' They will have zero answer," Gingrich said.

What is Obama's positive replacement for Obamacare?

Clearly they can appreciate how it's a disaster that continues to drive up costs. No one has an answer to solve the problem.

 

[Jhhnn]

I didn't know short of UHC (and even then, it really won't) that anyone had a plan to reduce actual HC costs. In light of that, why is anyone b1tching about the GOP and their lack of plan? Dems had the political will to get UHC done, they failed. What's with the duhversion on 'What is the GOP's plan?'

Uh,, obviously, Dems *did not* have the political will to do UHC, or it would have happened.

Duhversion? That's like calling the Media "liberal".

What is the topic at hand, anyway? It sure as Hell isn't the ACA itself, but rather Gingrich's rather plain spoken words about Repup alternatives, which are the political version of vaporware.

They got nuthin', nuthin' but negativity & tearing down their opponents in an effort to look good themselves.

My estimation of Gingrich went up a notch, meaning I no longer group him with the whale shit that's the rest of the Repub leadership.

 

[Jhhnn]

What is Obama's positive replacement for Obamacare?

Clearly they can appreciate how it's a disaster that continues to drive up costs. No one has an answer to solve the problem.

Clearly, you're projecting outcomes that haven't happened and may not happen at all.

Pure negativity based on the absorption of entirely too much right wing agitprop.

 

[Anarchist420]

Gingrich has always supported strong govt intervention in health care (Medicare Part D was his idea as was what became the ACA)... he's a Rockefeller Republican FFS.

So Gingrich basically saying that his entire political philosophy and strategy over the previous 2 decades is bad, eh?

He learned from experience, i guess you could say. I'm sure he's reading the tea leaves of demographics changes and much of the negative and destructive strategies the GOP uses isn't going to work anymore.

 

[Spyhawk]

Some people keep harping on how capitalism in its purest form is superior to every other system but I just don't see it when I try to find one thing that Americans have that I can't have. I have access to free health care, cheaper education and everything else that I could want in life so what am I missing ? If the US has such a great system, why is it always rated as being one of the worst places to live compared to other free prosperous nations.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Some people keep harping on how capitalism in its purest form is superior to every other system but I just don't see it when I try to find one thing that Americans have that I can't have. I have access to free health care, cheaper education and everything else that I could want in life so what am I missing ? If the US has such a great system, why is it always rated as being one of the worst places to live compared to other free prosperous nations.

Some people will make that claim. I disagree. More to the point there is no such thing and it has no relevance to your statement. Our problems aren't derived from non existing economic systems but in incompetence and political games. Our NSA situation demonstrates that party promises guarantee nothing. Our leaders are unaccountable except on election day and the dominant parties determine not only who we can have but only one of two ideas on anything.

 

[werepossum]

What is Obama's positive replacement for Obamacare?

Clearly they can appreciate how it's a disaster that continues to drive up costs. No one has an answer to solve the problem.

Single payer government health care. Womb to the tomb, we own you, bitch.

 

[Phokus]

Single payer won't address the cost issues either... if we want reduced costs, then it's either socialism or the free market (and I don't want socialism).

Single payer WOULD reduce costs, wtf are you talking about, countries w/ single payer have much lower costs than we do.

 

[piasabird]

I am not voting republican anymore. They can do nothing. May as well start flying the Red Hammer and Cycle flag.

The only hope is when the Democrats have to pay their taxes and penalties and pay for their health care they will decide that they need to alter this health care to make it less painful. Time to pay the piper.

 

[piasabird]

Fairy Dust!

 

[Jhhnn]

Single payer government health care. Womb to the tomb, we own you, bitch.

Heh. Participation is not mandatory, nor do hybrid single payer systems prevent choice. Witness France.

 

[Incorruptible]

Single payer won't address the cost issues either... if we want reduced costs, then it's either socialism or the free market (and I don't want socialism).

Agreed. Single payer will increase our debt even more and we will see death panels. Allow the Free Market to handle healthcare and we would see decreased costs. The US was built on the Free Market.

Most of the politicians don't want to fix this problem and one of the few guys that did was Ron Paul who would have fixed this problem but the idiots on here and in the US attacked him.

 

[Zorkorist]

There's really not a problem. The Republicans, and the Democrats agree. All is good.

-John

 

[DominionSeraph]

The only hope is when the Democrats have to pay their taxes and penalties and pay for their health care they will decide that they need to alter this health care to make it less painful. Time to pay the piper.

 

[Zorkorist]

You do understand it is all fake money, and when we are 17 trillion dollars in debt...

it's play-dough.

-John

 

[Zorkorist]

Government today, is all about the power.

1st you get the money.
Then you get the power.
Then you get the women.

Tony Montana

-John

 

[Jaskalas]

Single payer government health care. Womb to the tomb, we own you, bitch.

Don't recall Obama fighting for that.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

The Republican Plan for Healthcare:

That's something evil wealth redistributionist socialists would worry about! We're not communists so we don't have to worry about the well-being of the American people. Don't get sick, and if you do get sick, die quickly is a good plan.

Why should we waste time on issues like health care when we need to deal with Benghazi? I don't wanna hear anymore talk about health care problems! I wanna talk about Benghazi!

 

[WhipperSnapper]

What is Obama's positive replacement for Obamacare?

Obama once said something to the effect that if he were designing a healthcare system from scratch, it wouldn't be anything like our current system. At one point he also said something to the effect that the Affordable Care Act is what he was able to get through Congress.

If you read between the lines, he probably supports real socialized medicine or some system akin to what all of the other industrialized first world nations have. But he can't come out and say that publicly because then he would be further painted as an evil pinko-communist socialist (fear!).

 

[WhipperSnapper]

Uh,, obviously, Dems *did not* have the political will to do UHC, or it would have happened.

Doing that would require a very large amount of public and political support beyond what they had available to them. Getting rid of the private health insurance companies or regulating them so severely that they basically provide the same benefits at the same price and terms would be a complete transformation of our health care system. It might even require amendments to the Constitution or large payments to the insurance companies and hospitals (for a government "taking" of property).

 

[Agent11]

Man, I wish we had a moon base.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

Agreed. Single payer will increase our debt even more and we will see death panels. Allow the Free Market to handle healthcare and we would see decreased costs. The US was built on the Free Market.

Why do you think that death panels would not exist under free market health care? Under real capitalism, why wouldn't private insurance companies have death panels where employees receive commissions for finding contractual loopholes for being able to deny coverage to insured customers when they get sick? We already have those kinds of death panels today at insurance companies.

Why do you think that private insurance companies would not have death panels under laissez-faire capitalism? Don't you think there would be plenty of loopholes in the 1000 page insurance contracts written in small print by the best lawyers money could buy?

 

[rudder]

Are you sure that this chart should not be rewritten showing donor corporations and donor 1%'ers? unless you can say for sure that every citizen, of say California for example, gives more to the feds than they get back.