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'Newsweek' Says Armitage Was Plame Source for Both Novak and Woodward

jlmadyson

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'Newsweek' Says Armitage Was Plame Source for Both Novak and Woodward

The Man Who Said Too Much

Plame Sues Armitage Over CIA Leak

NOVAK: ARMITAGE DID NOT TELL ALL

NEW YORK In an article at the Newsweek web site on Saturday, the magazine's Michael Isikoff declared that former Richard Armitage, the former deputy secretary of state, "outed" ex-CIA operative Valerie Plame Wilson to both columnist Robert Novak and Bob Woodward of The Washington Post.
The scoop comes from the book "Hubris," by Isikoff and David Corn, to be published in early September.

"The disclosures about Armitage," Isikoff writes, "gleaned from interviews with colleagues, friends and lawyers directly involved in the case, underscore one of the ironies of the Plame investigation: that the initial leak, seized on by administration critics as evidence of how far the White House was willing to go to smear an opponent, came from a man who had no apparent intention of harming anyone."

Armitage has been known as a moderate in the administration.

Neither Novak nor Woodward has confirmed the source so far.

It was Armitage all along. I've said this for a very, very long time. Now we have it from newseek. The vanity fair piece with Ben Bradlee, which I posted on long ago, was right on the money. The only question that remains is what of Armitage, nothing at all, is he an outer? Guilty of crime? Perhaps not, but I suppose only time will tell.
 
He was one of how many in an organized effort? We are up to three now (Rove, Armitage and Scooter), with directions from Cheney? Armitage sure doesn't fit in with the VP crowd, so I'm not sure if he was just sloppy or stupid, and who told Armitage? Too many people lying to get the story straight, we'll have to wait until the trial which was conveniently pushed into 2007.
 
The crazzies just have too many scams running all the time not to foul up one big-time on a regular basis. Outting Valerie was payback for the way her husband outted the phony "war on terror" scam that led to the Iraqi invasion. Remember. Iraq did not attack the USA on 9-11. Neither did Afghanistan.
 
Originally posted by: LEDominator
I can see Iraq as not being connected, but Afghaistan? Thats where they trained all these people.

We trained Osama there too and trained others just like him in Afghanistan.. right?
 
We actually sold them weapons by proxy of Pakistan to fight the Soviets as I recall. But my main point is that people who are trying to hurt us live there.
 
Originally posted by: jlmadyson
'Newsweek' Says Armitage Was Plame Source for Both Novak and Woodward

The Man Who Said Too Much

NEW YORK In an article at the Newsweek web site on Saturday, the magazine's Michael Isikoff declared that former Richard Armitage, the former deputy secretary of state, "outed" ex-CIA operative Valerie Plame Wilson to both columnist Robert Novak and Bob Woodward of The Washington Post.
The scoop comes from the book "Hubris," by Isikoff and David Corn, to be published in early September.

"The disclosures about Armitage," Isikoff writes, "gleaned from interviews with colleagues, friends and lawyers directly involved in the case, underscore one of the ironies of the Plame investigation: that the initial leak, seized on by administration critics as evidence of how far the White House was willing to go to smear an opponent, came from a man who had no apparent intention of harming anyone."

Armitage has been known as a moderate in the administration.

Neither Novak nor Woodward has confirmed the source so far.

It was Armitage all along. I've said this for a very, very long time. Now we have it from newseek. The vanity fair piece with Ben Bradlee, which I posted on long ago, was right on the money. The only question that remains is what of Armitage, nothing at all, is he an outer? Guilty of crime? Perhaps not, but I suppose only time will tell.

Gee, I can't wait to buy the book <yawn>
 
Originally posted by: Todd33
He was one of how many in an organized effort? We are up to three now (Rove, Armitage and Scooter), with directions from Cheney? Armitage sure doesn't fit in with the VP crowd, so I'm not sure if he was just sloppy or stupid, and who told Armitage? Too many people lying to get the story straight, we'll have to wait until the trial which was conveniently pushed into 2007.

Brainwashing has never been so successful.
 
Armitage was the source for cocaine as well.

Mr. Cocaine

It's another subject so i'll not say more here. But it does directly relate in as much as outing the outer of Plame as himself a covert CIA operative but one involved not in protecting the USA but in destroying it.

The CIA just like most intel agencies have two sides. In intel circles the two sides are nick named the "White side" and the "Black side" (or dark side).

The black uses the white as their cover.

Plame was on the white side.
 
Originally posted by: LEDominator
We actually sold them weapons by proxy of Pakistan to fight the Soviets as I recall. But my main point is that people who are trying to hurt us live there.

No. your main point is false, there were few Afghans in those training camps.
You do mean Osama the Saudi prince and the Saudi hi-jackers (17 or 18 of 19)of 911 fame? Compare it to the 700? military bases we happen to have on foreign soil. Are the foreign governments responsible for the actions of our base personal?
 
Originally posted by: WHAMPOM
Originally posted by: LEDominator
We actually sold them weapons by proxy of Pakistan to fight the Soviets as I recall. But my main point is that people who are trying to hurt us live there.

No. your main point is false, there were few Afghans in those training camps.
You do mean Osama the Saudi prince and the Saudi hi-jackers (17 or 18 of 19)of 911 fame? Compare it to the 700? military bases we happen to have on foreign soil. Are the foreign governments responsible for the actions of our base personal?

Regardless of nationality, they lived in afghanistan at the camps. Thus, they lived there. Of course those governments are not responsible for our personel, however, the US military isn't exactly going out and blowing up antiquities and attacking countries with whom we disagree in the name of Allah. The point is the Taliban, which hosted Osama and the "Mujahidin," gave their support.
 
Originally posted by: straightalker
Armitage was the source for cocaine as well.

Mr. Cocaine

It's another subject so i'll not say more here. But it does directly relate in as much as outing the outer of Plame as himself a covert CIA operative but one involved not in protecting the USA but in destroying it.

The CIA just like most intel agencies have two sides. In intel circles the two sides are nick named the "White side" and the "Black side" (or dark side).

The black uses the white as their cover.

Plame was on the white side.

lol, no offense, but that link is like tin-foil city
 
Everybody in the know knowz Armitage is a dope pedaler as desrcibed. That is why on the public record in recorded sessions of Senate Floor Hearings Armitage is talked down to as "Mr Cocaine."

Save your tin foil cheap defense strategy for the your treasonous Osama Bin Laden 9-11 cave headquarters conspiracy. All the evidence anyone has that he did 9-11 is a fake Osama Bin Laden video where some fake fat fool tried to imitate a tall skinny man.

The Plame outing was cheap street gangster level revenge. "Don't mess with us" was the message. Picture Al Capone in 1930's Chicago. Or picture the streets of Italy today, wherever the Mafia still rules. They break old ladies legs who don't pay up.

I'm not the one escalating the discussion. Just see how the violence they do escalates things. After Plame was outed, it's been estimated as many as perhaps 50 CIA covert operatives were waxed due to their covert identities being exposed.

The Plame situation is a huge ongoing situation. With huge ramifications in the global Intel Community.
 
Originally posted by: straightalker
Everybody in the know knowz Armitage is a dope pedaler as desrcibed. That is why on the public record in recorded sessions of Senate Floor Hearings Armitage is talked down to as "Mr Cocaine."

Save your tin foil cheap defense strategy for the your treasonous Osama Bin Laden 9-11 cave headquarters conspiracy. All the evidence anyone has that he did 9-11 is a fake Osama Bin Laden video where some fake fat fool tried to imitate a tall skinny man.

The Plame outing was cheap street gangster level revenge. "Don't mess with us" was the message. Picture Al Capone in 1930's Chicago. Or picture the streets of Italy today, wherever the Mafia still rules. They break old ladies legs who don't pay up.

I'm not the one escalating the discussion. Just see how the violence they do escalates things. After Plame was outed, it's been estimated as many as perhaps 50 CIA covert operatives were waxed due to their covert identities being exposed.

The Plame situation is a huge ongoing situation. With huge ramifications in the global Intel Community.

I am not denying the scope of the plame thing. But you have to admit the whole article sounds really conspiratorial. Btw, I am not trying to flame you or anything like that at all. I am just saying that to me the article sounds like something Dale Gribble would say.
 
Even the Washington Post is backtracking now. But it's all going to go silent after this revalation...

End of an Affair

WE'RE RELUCTANT to return to the subject of former CIA employee Valerie Plame because of our oft-stated belief that far too much attention and debate in Washington has been devoted to her story and that of her husband, former ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV, over the past three years. But all those who have opined on this affair ought to take note of the not-so-surprising disclosure that the primary source of the newspaper column in which Ms. Plame's cover as an agent was purportedly blown in 2003 was former deputy secretary of state Richard L. Armitage.

Mr. Armitage was one of the Bush administration officials who supported the invasion of Iraq only reluctantly. He was a political rival of the White House and Pentagon officials who championed the war and whom Mr. Wilson accused of twisting intelligence about Iraq and then plotting to destroy him. Unaware that Ms. Plame's identity was classified information, Mr. Armitage reportedly passed it along to columnist Robert D. Novak "in an offhand manner, virtually as gossip," according to a story this week by the Post's R. Jeffrey Smith, who quoted a former colleague of Mr. Armitage.

It follows that one of the most sensational charges leveled against the Bush White House -- that it orchestrated the leak of Ms. Plame's identity to ruin her career and thus punish Mr. Wilson -- is untrue. The partisan clamor that followed the raising of that allegation by Mr. Wilson in the summer of 2003 led to the appointment of a special prosecutor, a costly and prolonged investigation, and the indictment of Vice President Cheney's chief of staff, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, on charges of perjury. All of that might have been avoided had Mr. Armitage's identity been known three years ago.

That's not to say that Mr. Libby and other White House officials are blameless. As prosecutor Patrick J. Fitzgerald has reported, when Mr. Wilson charged that intelligence about Iraq had been twisted to make a case for war, Mr. Libby and Mr. Cheney reacted by inquiring about Ms. Plame's role in recommending Mr. Wilson for a CIA-sponsored trip to Niger, where he investigated reports that Iraq had sought to purchase uranium. Mr. Libby then allegedly disclosed Ms. Plame's identity to journalists and lied to a grand jury when he said he had learned of her identity from one of those reporters. Mr. Libby and his boss, Mr. Cheney, were trying to discredit Mr. Wilson; if Mr. Fitzgerald's account is correct, they were careless about handling information that was classified.

Nevertheless, it now appears that the person most responsible for the end of Ms. Plame's CIA career is Mr. Wilson. Mr. Wilson chose to go public with an explosive charge, claiming -- falsely, as it turned out -- that he had debunked reports of Iraqi uranium-shopping in Niger and that his report had circulated to senior administration officials. He ought to have expected that both those officials and journalists such as Mr. Novak would ask why a retired ambassador would have been sent on such a mission and that the answer would point to his wife. He diverted responsibility from himself and his false charges by claiming that President Bush's closest aides had engaged in an illegal conspiracy. It's unfortunate that so many people took him seriously.

I don't expect any of the regular droolers to post a response to this, but who knows 😀

Psst - you know who you are.
Another oldie but goodie.
Go key "Plame" into the search engine for archived threads....pages and pages...

Nice to see the tinfoilers have it all straight for us though. 50 agents killed eh? :laugh:
 
If it was an "accident" like they claim, then why all the lying and obfuscating?
Good question, although at this point any response is pure speculation. Perhaps, given the nature of allegations and the mood of the nation, the White House felt compelled to spin this controversy under the rug and failed.

My take on the article is that Armitage inadvertedly leaked information that he did not know or realize was sensitive...shame on him perhaps, but certainly not the conspiracy theory that many simply assumed was the case.

Then again, this whole fiasco has been nothing but speculation.
 
Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
If it was an "accident" like they claim, then why all the lying and obfuscating?
Good question, although at this point any response is pure speculation. Perhaps, given the nature of allegations and the mood of the nation, the White House felt compelled to spin this controversy under the rug and failed.

My take on the article is that Armitage inadvertedly leaked information that he did not know or realize was sensitive...shame on him perhaps, but certainly not the conspiracy theory that many simply assumed was the case.

Then again, this whole fiasco has been nothing but speculation.

I don't buy that excuse for the White House behavior. They didn't have to spin at all. My guess is that they were up to something it's just Armitage's loose lips were coincidental.

I haven't read up on it but what's also perplexing is why Armitage didn't fess up. Amongst the various explanations . . . the nefarious one is that he liked the fact that Bushistas were being excoriated. One of the milder ones is that he's such an idiot he didn't realized until much later that he was The One.
 
Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
If it was an "accident" like they claim, then why all the lying and obfuscating?
Good question, although at this point any response is pure speculation. Perhaps, given the nature of allegations and the mood of the nation, the White House felt compelled to spin this controversy under the rug and failed.

My take on the article is that Armitage inadvertedly leaked information that he did not know or realize was sensitive...shame on him perhaps, but certainly not the conspiracy theory that many simply assumed was the case.

Then again, this whole fiasco has been nothing but speculation.

There was an attempt to discredit Wilson from Cheney's office, but the Armitage part was simply a screw up on his part. Armitage hates neocons.
 
Originally posted by: alchemize
Even the Washington Post is backtracking now. But it's all going to go silent after this revalation...

End of an Affair

Nevertheless, it now appears that the person most responsible for the end of Ms. Plame's CIA career is Mr. Wilson. Mr. Wilson chose to go public with an explosive charge, claiming -- falsely, as it turned out -- that he had debunked reports of Iraqi uranium-shopping in Niger and that his report had circulated to senior administration officials. He ought to have expected that both those officials and journalists such as Mr. Novak would ask why a retired ambassador would have been sent on such a mission and that the answer would point to his wife. He diverted responsibility from himself and his false charges by claiming that President Bush's closest aides had engaged in an illegal conspiracy. It's unfortunate that so many people took him seriously.

I don't expect any of the regular droolers to post a response to this, but who knows 😀

Psst - you know who you are.
Another oldie but goodie.
Go key "Plame" into the search engine for archived threads....pages and pages...

Nice to see the tinfoilers have it all straight for us though. 50 agents killed eh? :laugh:


Yup... and the Judge wsa at fault for the murder of her husband and mother!:disgust:

Don't forget it is the rape victims fault.

We wil lnever know how many confidential informats where MURDERED because the PResident and his men can't keep their mouths shut about security matters. They stil can't as we have seen with the recent British plot.

What we do know about ruined lives is that EVERY employee of Brewster Jennings & Associates was outed as a probable CIA agents! Just because the President and his men can't maintain security.


 
Originally posted by: alchemize
Even the Washington Post is backtracking now. But it's all going to go silent after this revalation...

End of an Affair

...
That's not to say that Mr. Libby and other White House officials are blameless. As prosecutor Patrick J. Fitzgerald has reported, when Mr. Wilson charged that intelligence about Iraq had been twisted to make a case for war, Mr. Libby and Mr. Cheney reacted by inquiring about Ms. Plame's role in recommending Mr. Wilson for a CIA-sponsored trip to Niger, where he investigated reports that Iraq had sought to purchase uranium. Mr. Libby then allegedly disclosed Ms. Plame's identity to journalists and lied to a grand jury when he said he had learned of her identity from one of those reporters. Mr. Libby and his boss, Mr. Cheney, were trying to discredit Mr. Wilson; if Mr. Fitzgerald's account is correct, they were careless about handling information that was classified.
...
It's astonishing for the WaPo's editorial page to admit that Cheney and Libby were politically motivated to support their fabricated evidence by commiting treason, by lying about it, and by obstructing an investigation into acts of treason.

As for the comment "it's all going to go silent after this revalation[sp]..." I don't think so.
 
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