News Corp's #2 shareholder funded 'terror mosque' planner

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Fern

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http://arabnews.com/saudiarabia/article111262.ece

More evidence of Fox's connection to a terrorist financier.

If they know this guy is involved in terrorism and they're intentionally doing business with him doesn't that kind of make them criminals as well?

I don't see anybody saying Alwaleed is a terrorist financier (except you). The article is saying Rauf is the 'terror mosque' planner.

Alwaleed is a member of the Saudi royal family and so far unconnected to terrorism as best I can tell. He's a multi billionaire who owns a awful lot of stuff including Large well-known hotels and a big chunk of Euro Disney etc. He's known as the Arabian (Warren) Buffet IIRC.

Fern
 

Sclamoz

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I don't see anybody saying Alwaleed is a terrorist financier (except you). The article is saying Rauf is the 'terror mosque' planner.

Alwaleed is a member of the Saudi royal family and so far unconnected to terrorism as best I can tell. He's a multi billionaire who owns a awful lot of stuff including Large well-known hotels and a big chunk of Euro Disney etc. He's known as the Arabian (Warren) Buffet IIRC.

Fern

If he's not a terrorist financier why call him a shady character and accuse him of funding radical madrassas across the world (which are terrorist schools)?

If this guy isn't involved in crime/terrorism then fox shouldn't be trying to paint the Imam of the ground zero mosque as shady for taking money from him. If he is connected than fox is just as dirty as that imam for doing business with him.
 

chuckywang

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I'm not a fan of Fox but it's a publicly-traded corporation. His name name is Saudi Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal... "Other beneficiaries of Al-Waleed's largess include the Islamic Development Bank, a project designed to "foster the economic development and social progress of [Muslims] in accordance with the principles of Shari'ah." In other words just another Saudi fundie. It's BS to act like the Fox News pundits are somehow funding this mosque.

Among his other beneficiaries include Harvard University and Philips Exeter Academy. Expect the next wave of Muslim terrorists to come from there.
 

Fern

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If he's not a terrorist financier why call him a shady character and accuse him of funding radical madrassas across the world (which are terrorist schools)?

If this guy isn't involved in crime/terrorism then fox shouldn't be trying to paint the Imam of the ground zero mosque as shady for taking money from him. If he is connected than fox is just as dirty as that imam for doing business with him.

I haven't heard Fox (or anybody else) say that Alwaleed is a shady character etc. (If there is linked video here with that info on it, pls excuse me because my PC has no audio so I don't watch clips of talking heads; can't hear what they're saying)

I also wasn't aware that Fox is trying to paint the Imam of the GZM as shady for taking money from Alwaleed. And again, I see nowhere that Alwaleed has given any money to the Imam or his GZM. Alwaleed seems to have merely donated to the same (Muslim) non-profit as the Imam. That non-profit looks to be unconnected to the GZM

I think this article etc is getting people confused.

Fern
 

xj0hnx

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I know you're from Texas and rather dim but let me explain, he said one of the loudest, not the loudest. No lie found.

Haha, yea, it is a lie, I've only seen him even mention the dude once, maybe twice, and none of it was lies, it was questions about his intentions, and into his "business". Nothing to see here, just more loony leftist lying from the continual jokes at Media"matters", and the familiar lapping from the loony left. So is Hamas a terrorist organization? What's wrong with asking that question, and then going after him when he doesn't answer it? Taking a couple instances where he talked about the Imam, and repeating them over and over only makes him "one of the loudest" in the minds of the loony left who are infatuated with him.
 
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Sclamoz

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I haven't heard Fox (or anybody else) say that Alwaleed is a shady character etc. (If there is linked video here with that info on it, pls excuse me because my PC has no audio so I don't watch clips of talking heads; can't hear what they're saying)

I also wasn't aware that Fox is trying to paint the Imam of the GZM as shady for taking money from Alwaleed. And again, I see nowhere that Alwaleed has given any money to the Imam or his GZM. Alwaleed seems to have merely donated to the same (Muslim) non-profit as the Imam. That non-profit looks to be unconnected to the GZM

I think this article etc is getting people confused.

Fern

It was shown in the daily show clip. Here's just the part from fox.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Snrh9-3PgDY&feature=player_embedded
 

Bitek

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It was shown in the daily show clip. Here's just the part from fox.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Snrh9-3PgDY&feature=player_embedded

The part where Cavuto had the same dear Prince on his show where he was
extolling his virtuous world leading charities was priceless also. Brown-nosing the boss at its finest.

This same Prince is also the largest shareholder of Citi, who Bush used TARP to give $25B to save his bank. So I guess the American taxpayers via Bush are also bankrolling the mosque.

Maybe we can just call it the "Fox Mosque @ WTC"
 

SP33Demon

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You're not looking at the original thread title, he edited it yesterday.

The thread title now mirrors that of the article, so it's OK.

I find this whole thing beyond ridiculous. And to ignore that terrorism funding has flowed through mosques and other Muslim-type charites flies in the face of known facts. Is this Imam (or whatever his title) involved in this type stuff? IDK, but suspicions are not unreasonable given the confirmed MO of such groups.

Otherwise, I still think the article's title is likely horribly misleading/disingenuous etc.

Read this:



What does "sponsored" mean? (It doesn't mean 'created', 'founded' or 'controls')

Does sponsored mean they donated money to it? That's the usual meaning.

So Al Waleed and Rauf donate to the same non-profit (which is not the GZM) and the article is trying to say Al Waleed, who is a minority S/H in Fox, is supporting Rauf?

So, if you and I both donate to the United Way, then you are supporting me? Maybe even funding my new building? That's the equivilent of what they're saying. That makes no sense.

This whole thing couldn't be 'stupider' (and of course this is all from a comedy show who someone is trying to take seriously) and ignores the reality of terror funding and how it flows through what otherwise may be legit non-profits.

Fern

The whole point of Jon Stewart owning Fox News is that guilt by association is just stupid. There isn't any more proof that United Way is funneling terror funds than the Kingdom Foundation so for Fox to try and insinuate that a charity has bad intentions is as ridiculous as saying Fox viewers support funding for the mosque because Muslim Kingdom Holdings owns a 7 percent share.

Once again Fox fails to report real news and just practices fear mongering, racially discriminating opinions that ignorant, scared Republican sheep just gobble up with their fava beans and chianti. They are teaching Republicans that the way to be a real American is to fear thy Muslim neighbor which is a load of horse manure. Let the NSA and CIA do their job and let freedom of religion ring in this great nation.
 

werepossum

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The greatest thing about this thread is that the very lefties squealing about how Fox News isn't news are now showing that their news comes from - The Daily Show!
 

Orignal Earl

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The greatest thing about this thread is that the very lefties squealing about how Fox News isn't news are now showing that their news comes from - The Daily Show!

In the same way that a lot of cartoons, Simpsons, Family Guy, South Park etc. often have more reality then Fox News.
 

Pens1566

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Obligatory "Daily Show viewers are more informed than Fox News viewers" post.
 

Phokus

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The greatest thing about this thread is that the very lefties squealing about how Fox News isn't news are now showing that their news comes from - The Daily Show!

Actually, it's an indictment of how bad Fox News and most cable news programming is that a comedy show is more informative than 'serious' news.
 

Throckmorton

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The greatest thing about this thread is that the very lefties squealing about how Fox News isn't news are now showing that their news comes from - The Daily Show!

This post makes no sense. Maybe you should apply for a job at Fox News.
 

Phokus

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the funny thing is, if it were any other news outlet, Fox News would be handing them their asses right now about how they fund terrorism. Funny how the rest of the mainstream media gives Fox News a pass on their hypocrisy while it takes a comedy show to expose it.
 
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