News Corp's #2 shareholder funded 'terror mosque' planner

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I'm not a fan of Fox but it's a publicly-traded corporation. His name name is Saudi Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal... "Other beneficiaries of Al-Waleed's largess include the Islamic Development Bank, a project designed to "foster the economic development and social progress of [Muslims] in accordance with the principles of Shari'ah." In other words just another Saudi fundie. It's BS to act like the Fox News pundits are somehow funding this mosque.
 

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I'm not a fan of Fox but it's a publicly-traded corporation. His name name is Saudi Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal... "Other beneficiaries of Al-Waleed's largess include the Islamic Development Bank, a project designed to "foster the economic development and social progress of [Muslims] in accordance with the principles of Shari'ah." In other words just another Saudi fundie. It's BS to act like the Fox News pundits are somehow funding this mosque.

Agreed. It is pretty silly that Fox is part-owned by an Arab, though. Good times.
 

nageov3t

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Agreed. It is pretty silly that Fox is part-owned by an Arab, though. Good times.
are you going to go on a witch hunt through the stocks of every publicly traded news company to find the ones where middle eastern people hold shares?
 

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nageov3t

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what's worse, distracting people by investigating the mosque or distracting people by investigating the people who are investigating the mosque?
 

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what's worse, distracting people by investigating the mosque or distracting people by investigating the people who are investigating the mosque?

They're both idiotic. We've heard all the rage about what the idiot Pelosi said yet a republican says he wants to do the exact same thing and...nothing...surprise.

Edit:I just saw the daily show doing a piece about this. Apparently fox is trying to paint this guy as a terrorist supporter without saying who he is lol!

http://tv.gawker.com/5620154/jon-stewart-fox-news-omits-facts-to-further-its-fear+driven-narrative
 
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They're both idiotic. We've heard all the rage about what the idiot Pelosi said yet a republican says he wants to do the exact same thing and...nothing...surprise.

Edit:I just saw the daily show doing a piece about this. Apparently fox is trying to paint this guy as a terrorist supporter without saying who he is lol!

http://tv.gawker.com/5620154/jon-stewart-fox-news-omits-facts-to-further-its-fear+driven-narrative

Al-Waleed bin Talal is the #2 shareholder of Newscorp outside of the Murdoch family. If you watch the Stewart clip it is the exact guily by association Fox News is doing in this case and does on a regular basis.

So what's good for the goose.......................
 

nageov3t

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Al-Waleed bin Talal is the #2 shareholder of Newscorp outside of the Murdoch family. If you watch the Stewart clip it is the exact guily by association Fox News is doing in this case and does on a regular basis.

So what's good for the goose.......................
sweet, so we can go back to discussing Obama's association with Reverend Wright? :p
 

soundforbjt

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OMG! Can't wait for Sarah Palin to start tweeting that Fox News "pals around" with terrorists! Oh wait...She works for them!!! Sarah Palin is guilty by association tooo.............Say it isn't soooo!
 

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Glenn Beck also pals around with "terrorists".
http://mediamatters.org/blog/201008230004


One of the loudest voices in conservatives' fight against the center has been Glenn Beck, who has specifically targeted Imam Rauf with blatant falsehoods and hypocritical attacks in a desperate attempt to smear him as a radical.

I stopped reading right there because it is one of the biggest lies on the webz. Hannity is THE loud voice against the mosque, and Pamela Geller running a close second.
 

JSt0rm

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That john stewart clip just confirms what everyone knows about fox. They filter and massage the news. They went all the way up to but didn't name this guy themselves. That's horrible ethically but the entire story is meaningless regardless.
 

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sweet, so we can go back to discussing Obama's association with Reverend Wright? :p

WATCH the stewart clip and see why the connection was made..he didnt mean for it to be used as evidence, he was making a point about how easy it is to make bullshit connections
 

soundforbjt

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Glenn Beck is a terrorist too?? On no... that means Hannity pals around too as well as O'Really.....Gasp...We the people must shut them down! All of those who don't support terrorism must stop watching Fox this minute to show we patriotic americans won't stand for this!!!
 

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I see that you're now off-line, when you return please edit your thread title. It's highly inaccurate, nor is it the title of the article you link etc.

Nowhere does the article state that Al-Waleed bin Talal donated any money to the GZM.

The donation in question came from the Kingdom Foundation, al-Waleed's personal charity, however, nothing in the article claimed that money was for the GZM. Instead, the donation went to Muslim Leaders of Tomorrow, a project sponsored jointly by two of Rauf's organizations. And, here again, nothing in the article claims that organizqation funneled any of the donation to the GZM.

Contrary to your title, there is no claim anywhere in the article that Al Waleed donated money to the GZM (it's says "planner"), and referring to him as "Fox co-owner" is misleading at best (they say "shareholder").

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Fern
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Hi Fern... It is fox that made this accusation so I think the title is legit. Please see the john Stewart break down. It all makes sense after. k thanks.
 

ayabe

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Yes and almost all of the actual 9/11 hijackers were Saudi's and were bankrolled...by Saudi's.

Nothing to see here. The real enemy is the poor peasants in Afghanistan and Pakistan oh and gays..
 

Fern

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Hi Fern... It is fox that made this accusation so I think the title is legit. Please see the john Stewart break down. It all makes sense after. k thanks.

You're not looking at the original thread title, he edited it yesterday.

The thread title now mirrors that of the article, so it's OK.

I find this whole thing beyond ridiculous. And to ignore that terrorism funding has flowed through mosques and other Muslim-type charites flies in the face of known facts. Is this Imam (or whatever his title) involved in this type stuff? IDK, but suspicions are not unreasonable given the confirmed MO of such groups.

Otherwise, I still think the article's title is likely horribly misleading/disingenuous etc.

Read this:

the Kingdom Foundation, al-Waleed's personal charity, has donated a total of $305,000 to Muslim Leaders of Tomorrow, a leadership and networking project sponsored jointly by two of Rauf's organizations.

What does "sponsored" mean? (It doesn't mean 'created', 'founded' or 'controls')

Does sponsored mean they donated money to it? That's the usual meaning.

So Al Waleed and Rauf donate to the same non-profit (which is not the GZM) and the article is trying to say Al Waleed, who is a minority S/H in Fox, is supporting Rauf?

So, if you and I both donate to the United Way, then you are supporting me? Maybe even funding my new building? That's the equivilent of what they're saying. That makes no sense.

This whole thing couldn't be 'stupider' (and of course this is all from a comedy show who someone is trying to take seriously) and ignores the reality of terror funding and how it flows through what otherwise may be legit non-profits.

Fern
 

xj0hnx

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Yes and almost all of the actual 9/11 hijackers were Saudi's and were bankrolled...by Saudi's.

Nothing to see here. The real enemy is the poor peasants in Afghanistan and Pakistan oh and gays..

You're pretty clueless aren't you?
 

Red Dawn

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I stopped reading right there because it is one of the biggest lies on the webz. Hannity is THE loud voice against the mosque, and Pamela Geller running a close second.
I know you're from Texas and rather dim but let me explain, he said one of the loudest, not the loudest. No lie found.