Newly elected GOP congressman (NY) appears to have lied about ... EVERYTHING

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esquared

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Lifer
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50 years is a long fucken time. I've yet to intentionally vote for a Republican candidate, and the odds of that happening grow more remote every passing year. But I've cast a couple protest votes for a GOP candidate before, when I knew the outcome was preordained. I almost voted for Lanhee Chen (R) for state controller, endorsed by the L.A. Times, but I couldn't do it.

And what made him better than the Democrat?
Arnold was a terrible governor. He was a crony capitalist, negotiated expensive deals with public sector unions (prisons and LE), and left state finances in absolute shambles. It's impossible to overstate how bad he was at budgeting, but it's very much on brand with GOP economic stewardship at the federal level. California was very lucky that Jerry Brown 2.0 was very effective at getting the house in order, and you could almost call Brown a fiscal conservative in his second act.

Maybe there's something else, but the only thing I can recall the Governator doing right was to setup mobile hospitals and other resources in preparation for a pandemic. Unfortunately because of how badly his budgets exploded the structural deficit, virtually all of this prescient planning was torn down during the inevitable cost-cutting.
 

kt

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50 years is a long fucken time. I've yet to intentionally vote for a Republican candidate, and the odds of that happening grow more remote every passing year. But I've cast a couple protest votes for a GOP candidate before, when I knew the outcome was preordained. I almost voted for Lanhee Chen (R) for state controller, endorsed by the L.A. Times, but I couldn't do it.
Same here, I almost voted for Lanhee Chen. He seems well qualified with a lot of experience, but I couldn't do it because of the (R) behind is name. I just couldn't take that chance.
 

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Same here, I almost voted for Lanhee Chen. He seems well qualified with a lot of experience, but I couldn't do it because of the (R) behind is name. I just couldn't take that chance.
IMO Chen is way more qualified than the (D) party loyalist he ran against, but I'd describe myself personally as a fiscal conservative. However, Chen is publicly an opponent of Obamacare, and for me that is disqualifying. I didn't vote for Chen or (D) Cohen. The good news is that State Controller is mostly a ceremonial job, so to my knowledge Cohen can't really fuck shit up even if she wants to. Of course it didn't actually matter because while Chen put up a good effort, he still lost by 10 points.
 
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nakedfrog

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Latest updates on this clown... he'd rather go to jail than have the people who posted his bond named. Out of concern for those people, of course.

Too bad, so sad!
 

Dave_5k

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Latest updates on this clown... he'd rather go to jail than have the people who posted his bond named. Out of concern for those people, of course.

Too bad, so sad!
Anyone want to take odds that the bond postings were actually forgeries by Santos?
 
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sactoking

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As a former surety bond underwriter (not bail) I'd say that if the court was doing any level of diligence then there's very little chance, like probably <1%, of a forgery being accepted.
 
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Dave_5k

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I wonder when those bail sponsors will be revealed?
Court is giving Santos until noon Friday (eastern time) to appeal, after which they will be revealed. However, if he appeals the ruling as expected, could be quite awhile - say a month absolute minimum for appellate review and decision, and maybe as much as a year for an initial appeals ruling (which can still typically be further appealed...).
 

Dave_5k

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As a former surety bond underwriter (not bail) I'd say that if the court was doing any level of diligence then there's very little chance, like probably <1%, of a forgery being accepted.
As I understand it, this was signature only (unsecured) bond ~ no specific surety assets pledged. And given everything else court clerks are responsible for, really doubt they have much of a due diligence process. And finally, the following from the article sounded rather squirrely:

"Murray said Santos originally lined up three financially responsible cosigners as suretors, but one backed out and the other two didn’t show up to his arraignment.

That forced them to make “other confidential arrangements” to ensure Santos’ release, Murray said.
Santos’ bond is unsecured. That means his cosigners didn’t have put up any money up front, "
 

sactoking

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Even an unsecured bond has some protection if it's actually a bond.

The article quotes make it sound like it's not actually a bond it's essentially some unverified signatures on a court document. If that's true then I'd say the likelihood of forgery probably is closer to 100%.

(An actual bond has to be on surety letterhead, is signed by an authorized individual, the signature is notarized, and the bond is pressed by an embosser. Courts likely know the typical sureties and signatures as well, anything or if the ordinary would get checked.)
 

IronWing

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I forget, is this federal court? If so, any surety bond has to come from a Treasury Department approved surety company. Personal cash bonds can come from anywhere but still have to be accepted. A completely unsecured bond seems unlikely if federal court.
 

VRAMdemon

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“My client would rather surrender to pretrial detainment than subject these suretors to what will inevitably come,”

Can it even work that way? If it’s ordered to be unsealed, the information gets out. It’s not like George is the only one with access to the information. The Court certainly knows.

Is George’s argument let’s just pretend I never got bailed out and I’ll go back and sit in jail until my court hearing? Is he claiming that he will refund the bail money, thus making the point moot, and actually go to jail until trial? There is no way anyone with any faculties would take that seriously. Does he think the "refund" would go to HIM?. Lol. Every little bit of grift helps…
 

Pens1566

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I forget, is this federal court? If so, any surety bond has to come from a Treasury Department approved surety company. Personal cash bonds can come from anywhere but still have to be accepted. A completely unsecured bond seems unlikely if federal court.

The charges against Santos (Devolder?) are federal.
 

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You guys want a laugh? LOL, I can't even... Hahahahaha

George Santos supports censure of Adam Schiff: 'We must preserve the integrity of the U.S House of Representatives'​



I didn't realize that, in addition to all the other things he is, he's also a comedian. Who knew he was hiding such comedic genius all this time?
 
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soundforbjt

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Court is giving Santos until noon Friday (eastern time) to appeal, after which they will be revealed. However, if he appeals the ruling as expected, could be quite awhile - say a month absolute minimum for appellate review and decision, and maybe as much as a year for an initial appeals ruling (which can still typically be further appealed...).
So I’m guessing he appealed?
 

Stopsignhank

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Our boy posted a video in which he says
To not carry out a censure would be a miscarriage of justice and a dereliction of our sworn duty as members of the House of Representatives. We must preserve the integrity of the U.S. House of Representatives and censure Adam Schiff today.


He then did not vote for the censure, he voted "present" I am shocked that GS did not preserve the integrity of the house of representatives :eek:
 

Greenman

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Our boy posted a video in which he says



He then did not vote for the censure, he voted "present" I am shocked that GS did not preserve the integrity of the house of representatives :eek:
There almost has to be some kind of mental illness going on with guy. His entire life is a scam. He's incapable of making a truthful statement, he appears to be devoid of any sort of moral or ethical compass, and he's stupid, really stupid. There has to be some brain damage or a golf ball sized tumor growing in his head.
 
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