Newer CDs sound horribly Loud and distorted...

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Rubycon

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People don't shoot the messenger. Even though the CD format itself is not perfect, it is far more capable of carrying decent sound. Metal tapes (the formula used in the tape coating not genre of music hehe) sound better because the original mix was better to begin with.

Originally posted by: AlienCraft

Ahh geeezuz, If I have to connect another blankety blank blank piece of gear just to squeeze so crappy song out of one of the holes , I'm gonna scream.

< grumpy old school rock and roll engineer aka "don't bore us get to the chorus"....

Actually I was referring to the DAC's of the day. So much improvement in this area in the past 20 years. Too bad the mainstream media isn't really there to show it off. :(
 

Pepsi90919

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Originally posted by: AlienCraft
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: biggestmuff
Pop music and big radio hit CDs today are mastered with the intention that the user will be listening to them after converting it to an mp3.

true, but i would go even farther as to say that the armchair recording engineers are scoring themselves a copy of pro tools and calling themselves professionals. if i can discern a difference between the recording method, it makes it less enjoyable to me.

In all honesty I work with a guy whose son (in college for music) that is becoming the highest level cert with pro-tools.

I will now schedule a call with him just to see what is going on and what is tought. Thanks for the reminder. My 4th occupation would have been a recording engineer.

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If you want to be in on the call Pepsi, PM me.
that's cool. I've also looked into becoming a recording engineer, even took a tour in a recording college, but can't come up with the $.
Nowadays, it takes far less, equipment wise, to learn than it did when I was learning it.
The same basic requirement is the drive to record ..... (fill in the blank).

I don't care about minimalist gear, I want to make something pleasing to the ears; not necessarily something that's going to sell a million copies with every song having a formula and being 3:30. It takes a huge drive to do that, and it isn't coming from the record companies.
 

AlienCraft

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Originally posted by: Rubycon
People don't shoot the messenger. Even though the CD format itself is not perfect, it is far more capable of carrying decent sound. Metal tapes (the formula used in the tape coating not genre of music hehe) sound better because the original mix was better to begin with.

Originally posted by: AlienCraft

Ahh geeezuz, If I have to connect another blankety blank blank piece of gear just to squeeze so crappy song out of one of the holes , I'm gonna scream.

< grumpy old school rock and roll engineer aka "don't bore us get to the chorus"....

Actually I was referring to the DAC's of the day. So much improvement in this area in the past 20 years. Too bad the mainstream media isn't really there to show it off. :(

Of course, this is why I was saying ACCK to the other post.
This is why I love listening to vinyl from time to time. It refreshes my reference point that has long past it's peak in popularity.
 

AlienCraft

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Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
AlienCraft

Nowadays, it takes far less, equipment wise, to learn than it did when I was learning it.
The same basic requirement is the drive to record ..... (fill in the blank).

I don't care about minimalist gear, I want to make something pleasing to the ears; not necessarily something that's going to sell a million copies with every song having a formula and being 3:30. It takes a huge drive to do that, and it isn't coming from the record companies.[/quote]
What I tried to say is that the equipment that helps one to do that is far more accessible nowadays.
I had to build the first two snakes I owned, now, they sell them for less than the cost of parts. a four track reel to reel was a godsend, now, it's a relic. An SM-58 has remained the same basic price for almost 30 years.
I have far more recording capability within this laptop than I did at the studio I ran in the 90's for THAT band.

Here's some things I've picked up along the way...
One thing that also never changes is that no box has written a hit song yet.
A good song comes across on an answering machine.
If that answering machine media is a cassette, it can become a hit record, simple as that.
A good song transcends the style of initial performance / delivery and can be valid in other styles as well.


 

Rubycon

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What's even worse are the Pirates' soundtracks. :Q

Never heard this type of music compressed before.

It could scare off a grizzly. :(
 

Excelsior

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Originally posted by: Rubycon
People don't shoot the messenger. Even though the CD format itself is not perfect, it is far more capable of carrying decent sound. Metal tapes (the formula used in the tape coating not genre of music hehe) sound better because the original mix was better to begin with.

Originally posted by: AlienCraft

Ahh geeezuz, If I have to connect another blankety blank blank piece of gear just to squeeze so crappy song out of one of the holes , I'm gonna scream.

< grumpy old school rock and roll engineer aka "don't bore us get to the chorus"....

Actually I was referring to the DAC's of the day. So much improvement in this area in the past 20 years. Too bad the mainstream media isn't really there to show it off. :(

Yes. I don't know why folks keep blaming the technology. It is the technique and the people behind it that are screwing up the music.
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: us3rnotfound
Originally posted by: Rubycon
What's even worse are the Pirates' soundtracks. :Q

Never heard this type of music compressed before.

It could scare off a grizzly. :(

What.

The compression is so nauseous and unpleasant it could scare off a grizly.

Of all kinds of music classical demands the dynamic range to have the cresendo (sp?) and impact. Compression kills this. Pirates has a very wide range and it's butchered by compression. Another great piece ruined by the recording engineers.