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Newegg has 7970s in stock

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Price gouging at frys has this one even worst off then the newegg prices...http://www.frys.com/product/6936977?...H:MAIN_RSLT_PG

$600 for a asus model perhaps it will be worth it to me if their supply is good in a couple weeks when i pick one up while the bargain shoppers have better luck having dinner with charlie sheen then getting a $500 7970 even at $549 people could justify this card so they will fly off the shelfs on newegg.
 
i had no problems with my 'evil' revised PCB 5770, it overclocked like a monster.

I have an XFX 6950 2 Gb works fine and I found there service to be pretty good too.

Ok a little lesson about being a consumer. You will always find examples of great product that do what they are supposed to even if the company is the worst on the planet. You will always find cases where the product fails and the service to remedy the situation is good. All that is well and good, but the primary skill of being a consumer is to get the product that has the highest probability of not causing you any issues. You want to buy the product and have zero negative experiences with the product. Obviously price plays a factor, but since we are talking quality I'll just leave that alone for now. Posting up "I had X product and it was great", but being contrary to the conclusion is in fact not a counter argument. Why? Your experience is part of the whole and the whole of XFX is that they have way more QC issues that any other manufacturer.
 
Ok a little lesson about being a consumer. You will always find examples of great product that do what they are supposed to even if the company is the worst on the planet. You will always find cases where the product fails and the service to remedy the situation is good. All that is well and good, but the primary skill of being a consumer is to get the product that has the highest probability of not causing you any issues. You want to buy the product and have zero negative experiences with the product. Obviously price plays a factor, but since we are talking quality I'll just leave that alone for now. Posting up "I had X product and it was great", but being contrary to the conclusion is in fact not a counter argument. Why? Your experience is part of the whole and the whole of XFX is that they have way more QC issues that any other manufacturer.
Data? Or am I supposed to take this at face value?
 
I concur. Lots of complaints after they sold out to Pine.

They have always been Pine, even back in the NV days. "XFX" just sounds more consumer brand friendly and less generic, but Pine has always been the parent company.

I personally will only buy reference cards from XFX. Most of their non-reference cards use cheaper components and crappier heat sinks, although that Black Ed. 7970 cooler looks pretty decent and the board itself looks like a reference board. The best reason to by XFX is the Double Lifetime warranty. It definitely helps resale value when you can offer your buyer a factory warranty.

Am I the only one that actually prefers reference cards? I like them because at least you know you're getting some level of quality and a heatsink designed by the chip maker.

With non-reference cards it's a bit of crap shoot. I've had an Asus card with a decent non-reference cooler, and the MSI Twin Frozr is good but those dual tiny fans have a higher pitched whiny sound that is pretty annoying. The Diamond 6870 I have now has a non-reference fan that is decent, but for some reason it runs at 50% when the card is idle, making it the loudest fan in my case. I had an non-reference XFX 6950, and that cooler was complete crap.

...anyway, to show my post isn't completely off topic, I have a Sapphire 7970 en route! Full on reference design of course, which I prefer.
 
Long time XFX user here. I've been pretty happy, so happy with XFX that I am hesitant to buy an other brand(Other than eVGA).
 
Make the claim, back it up.

Not saying you're wrong...but that's standard procedure.
Nitromullet already did really. XFX has had issues in the past with cutting corners on non-reference boards. I think the issues exploded when it was found their 4890's heatsinks didn't even have heatpipes in them and were missing a power phase, or something along those lines. Google it up. Buying reference, is shouldn't be a problem (or they'd have hell to pay), but I just don't support companies that operate like that.
They have always been Pine, even back in the NV days. "XFX" just sounds more consumer brand friendly and less generic, but Pine has always been the parent company.

I personally will only buy reference cards from XFX. Most of their non-reference cards use cheaper components and crappier heat sinks, although that Black Ed. 7970 cooler looks pretty decent and the board itself looks like a reference board. The best reason to by XFX is the Double Lifetime warranty. It definitely helps resale value when you can offer your buyer a factory warranty.

Am I the only one that actually prefers reference cards? I like them because at least you know you're getting some level of quality and a heatsink designed by the chip maker.

With non-reference cards it's a bit of crap shoot. I've had an Asus card with a decent non-reference cooler, and the MSI Twin Frozr is good but those dual tiny fans have a higher pitched whiny sound that is pretty annoying. The Diamond 6870 I have now has a non-reference fan that is decent, but for some reason it runs at 50% when the card is idle, making it the loudest fan in my case. I had an non-reference XFX 6950, and that cooler was complete crap.

...anyway, to show my post isn't completely off topic, I have a Sapphire 7970 en route! Full on reference design of course, which I prefer.
Well said, and I agree. Reference Sapphire 7970 en route here too 😀
 
That ~50$ premium for the ASUS card seems like a bit much to ask. The card reference, after all. I don't see what ASUS could have done differently that deserves a 50$ premium. :hmm:
 
I believe all the launch HD 6970s had back plates, mine from Sapphire does. If I remember correctly ASUS's 6970 had an aluminum shroud while the rest used plastic.

I meant the spine that they put on their DirectCU cards... acts as a card stiffener. Sorry for the ambiguity.
 
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