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should i wait for upcoming intel cpu for gaming pc or go with 9th generation when they are on discount? i play mainly games only like battlefield series and metro series
Well, you did not work for the company/department I did. It was a big company (>100,000 employees) and someones laptop was always breaking. My old manager became afriend, and after we both retired, I have replaced her personal laptop 3 times in 5 years. I don't care who believes me, I know what I saw.
Not sure the quality.. They were Dell at first, then changed to HP. The company was on a 3 year hardware refresh, and most of the laptops did not make it to 3 years.Yeah i know people who get the cheap lap tops thinking they got a good deal, they usually ALL have issues with the things after some time. The curb find i mentioned from earlier seemed like a solid one and i was surprised it even worked flawlessly minus the bad usb port. Looked like something got stuck in it and someone got a knife to it but overall fully functional.
I think most mobile cheap stuff is deliberately designed to fail, i have a Motorolla E5 play and i swear with the updates i get harped for they usually break something. I am having all kinds of issues with it as before during last year i swore it was the best phone. I even did a full on restore and STILL issues so its not me. Coincidence has it both friends both got LGS same time as me and both are having issues. Not even 2 years old.
Forced obsolescence should be illegal. Not sure if i got a case but i got many more examples of perfectly good phones deliberately breaking. I may be contacting a attorney. I called Metro with the complaints, all i get told is to buy a new $200 phone. Well isn't that dramatically convenient?
Not sure the quality.. They were Dell at first, then changed to HP. The company was on a 3 year hardware refresh, and most of the laptops did not make it to 3 years.
Never get the cheapest models, they're garbage as you'd expect, but their $100-$120ish stuff is usually fantastic for the money. Very light stock OS, decent specs, and easy to customize. Sort of the opposite of Samsung : expensive, jammed to the hilt with crapware and needless duplication of everything, apple wannabe that is just as bad in many ways if not worse.
Not sure the quality.. They were Dell at first, then changed to HP. The company was on a 3 year hardware refresh, and most of the laptops did not make it to 3 years.
Oh, and Linus, not sure what she was doing, the hard drives, the battery were the 2 things usually dying. And sometimes the CPU fans. They were <$600 each, so that could have been it.
Edit: below are 2 of them I have not recycled yet: Notice the very well worn keyboards
Ah man. I got chills looking at the HPs there. Idk how they made them soooo flimsy for so long. The silver ones especially, I've never seen so many where the hinges just disintegrate on them, and the design is so bad that it actually rips the screw receptacle right out of the back of the LCD housing
Statistically, large populations see tail effects more clearly . For example assuming an average lifetime of 30,000 days, if you were to fill a stadium with 30,000 people representing the general population, you would get a death every day on average.Well, you did not work for the company/department I did. It was a big company (>100,000 employees) and someones laptop was always breaking. My old manager became afriend, and after we both retired, I have replaced her personal laptop 3 times in 5 years. I don't care who believes me, I know what I saw.
Statistically, large populations see tail effects more clearly . For example assuming an average lifetime of 30,000 days, if you were to fill a stadium with 30,000 people representing the general population, you would get a death every day on average.
I guess the friend of his was just fine with her laptop crapping out 3 times in 5 years? That's the bigger picture of the post i think.
And you think a big corporation with probably a million PC's (a lot in their facilities) is going to go for $2,000 to $3000 laptops ? Everyone I know as a person does not spend that much on their laptops, and the company sure didn't. Its like desktop PC's, do companies use the upper tier ? or the casual gamer ? NO. Just the top tier gamers use high end, laptops or desktops. The HEDT market... Anybody there use a laptop ? NO !Nope. Bigger picture is not making assumptions using anecdotal evidence. All laptops do not fail after a couple of years. The statement was a bit misleading because it was really geared towards low-end cheap models. Ignoring all of the mid-high end models which, in my experience, can last a decade or more.
Both statements are not counted as factual, without actual data to support it.
And you think a big corporation with probably a million PC's (a lot in their facilities) is going to go for $2,000 to $3000 laptops ? Everyone I know as a person does not spend that much on their laptops, and the company sure didn't. Its like desktop PC's, do companies use the upper tier ? or the casual gamer ? NO. Just the top tier gamers use high end, laptops or desktops. The HEDT market... Anybody there use a laptop ? NO !
Lets leave Mac anything out of my statements. The company I worked for did office type things, I am speaking from that experience, not yours, and yes most of the laptops were probably lattitude types, but I am sure they did not pay what WE have to pay.Well, ours does. I use Mac primarily, but they gave me a Dell 2-in-1 touchscreen laptop/table that is fairly decent. It's the only way I can access some of the systems that the company uses.
HEDT (HELT?) laptop? Yeah, you're talking to the wrong person. I do indeed use an HEDT laptop. MacBook Pro, as do my co-workers. Most people in creative services or some sort of media creation uses high end laptops. Obviously that's a special use case, but there are some people who do.
That said, most corporations aren't purchasing $200 laptops either. They use Dell Latitude and other business equivalent. Mid range isn't 2k. You can get a good mid-range laptop for $1k.
All that said, I highly doubt the average life span of a laptop is 2-3 years. I'll be glad to be proven wrong, it's just not what I've seen in my experience.
The best MacBook Pro is an utter potato next to even a Ryzen 3700 and $300 2060/5700 class GPU, let alone an actually high end desktop. The only reason to use one is either vanity, or you literally have no place to set up an actual desktop.
And due to Apple not using AMD, even their most expensive Mac Pros are utterly pathetic next to TR pro rigs.
Serious businesses with serious computing needs are very poorly served by Apple at the moment. This isn't 1993 anymore. Although regular photo editors and people using GarageBand can get by pretty decently.
Userbenchmark has been debunked here as a worthless benchmark. As far as traveling, the department I was in was flying all over the country, working away, more than in the office. But in that benchmark, the AMD wins.Simply not true, but you clearly have your opinion and hate Mac for whatever reason. You've obviously never worked in an industry that requires travel and the ability to work remote.
FYI: As far as your potato comment, I thought this forum required actual data/metric to back up your claims. Here is the latest high end CPU in the MacBook Pro vs. the Ryzen 3700U.
Userbenchmark has been debunked here as a worthless benchmark. As far as traveling, the department I was in was flying all over the country, working away, more than in the office. But in that benchmark, the AMD wins.
Simply not true, but you clearly have your opinion and hate Mac for whatever reason. You've obviously never worked in an industry that requires travel and the ability to work remote.
FYI: As far as your potato comment, I thought this forum required actual data/metric to back up your claims. Here is the latest high end CPU in the MacBook Pro vs. the Ryzen 3700U.
@Arkaign mentioned the MBP compared to a 3700 (65 W Zen 2 CPU), not a 3700u (15 W Zen+ CPU). They are vastly different processors. He probably should have included the 'x' on the end of the 3700 but I thought it was clear in the context of his post being about a desktop system. With the intended comparison, yes, the 3700x would crush the latest MBP CPU.
Doesn't make sense to compare a desktop CPU vs a Laptop. I actually got what he was trying to say, but it's just a silly comparison and pointless since we were talking about laptops. He obviously dislikes Apple/Macs for whatever reason. Not really important though.
Well, that site is OK, but I didn;t realize cometlake was out for sale yet ? And no comparisons using the macbook pro ? And what about benchmark to Renior ?Sorry, wasn't aware of that. It was just one of the first links that came up. Either way, the MacBook Pro is no slouch and him flaming it is a bit lame.
I fly internationally. So when you spend 3 weeks in Europe or Asia, having a high performance laptop is a priority. Some may not understand that, but there's really no need to trash on one and make false claims.
Hopefully a more trusted site and has benchmark results. Not speaking specifically to the CPU manufacture, but pointing out that the CPU that the MBP happens to use is very fast and not a "potato". This may change with the new mobile CPUs coming out, but this is what is available now.
Intel Core i7-10710U Benchmarked: 14nm+++ Comet Lake
Time to get back into some CPU benchmarking, and we're not looking at any old CPU, but the first of Intel's 10th-generation processors. Seeing Intel reach the...www.techspot.com
Simply not true, but you clearly have your opinion and hate Mac for whatever reason. You've obviously never worked in an industry that requires travel and the ability to work remote.
FYI: As far as your potato comment, I thought this forum required actual data/metric to back up your claims. Here is the latest high end CPU in the MacBook Pro vs. the Ryzen 3700U.
Doesn't make sense to compare a desktop CPU vs a Laptop. I actually got what he was trying to say, but it's just a silly comparison and pointless since we were talking about laptops. He obviously dislikes Apple/Macs for whatever reason. Not really important though.
Well, that site is OK, but I didn;t realize cometlake was out for sale yet ? And no comparisons using the macbook pro ? And what about benchmark to Renior ?
I will not take a stand until I see benchmarks of a MacBook pro against the current AMD equivalent.
Hitman928 also has great points on the post above.
If you don't think I've worked in an industry that requires travel, lol, ok kid. Let's just say I've been to a lot of usually sandy, dirty, unpleasant places doing horrible things for horrible people, for more years than I'd have liked.