New season of The Apprentice just started
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ultimatebob
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Too bad they couldn't do anything interesting with the blimps besides having a scrolling text bar.
ultimatebob
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The Russian is smart. He told Summer to her mouth shut and she'd be OK. It would have worked, too, but she opened her big mouth anyway.
I like the Russian guy (can't remember his name) but I thought it was fvcked up how Trump refered to him as the Russian (even though I just did 
).
).oooo next episode Trump's daughter will replace Caroline... copying Martha's tactics?
Tarek is an @ss by the way, threatening Lee and then bring him into the boardroom for revenge...
Tarek is an @ss by the way, threatening Lee and then bring him into the boardroom for revenge...
Originally posted by: SLCentral
I like the Russian guy (can't remember his name) but I thought it was fvcked up how Trump refered to him as the Russian (even though I just did
Lenny. He reminds me of a mobster.
I'm going to be at work until 10:30pm tonight because I work on the Yahoo Apprentice website. We do a big site update after the show finishes airing on the West Coast.
damn it.. didnt know it started today.... tuned in during the last half hour. Is it gonna air every monday at 8 pm?
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Originally posted by: FreshPrince
why did they have to air with 24
Going against 24 was really stupid. The whole "business reality show" concept is already starting to get a bit old, and there is no way that it can compete with the top rated shows anymore.
Well... Maybe it could counter program "Dancing with the Stars" or "The Bachelor". I doubt that many of the people who watch those shows would be 24 fans anyway
in canada, its on at 9 and then 24 at 10 since they're on the same channel (global), we get 24 on fox at 9 I think
tarek seemed alright, the thing is he is a very good salesman and with the 80/20 thing (and then 80/20 again) your going to want him on your team to help with the inane tasks they come up with
trump seemed to expect the 2nd coming of randall, with tarek failing that he will be eliminated eventually so it would be wise for his teammates to keep him on
Gold Rush is pretty divided, the next project manager is in for a world of trouble
it always bothered me when the results are so close and trump treats it like a big victory, it was 43-40, essentially a crapshoot
the other team had a good plan and were clearly more organized, tarek believed that he could win out of pure brute sales (and he almost did)
I would expect the "russian" and the "bloke" to stay for at least another 5 or 6 episodes to keep the show "international"
tarek seemed alright, the thing is he is a very good salesman and with the 80/20 thing (and then 80/20 again) your going to want him on your team to help with the inane tasks they come up with
trump seemed to expect the 2nd coming of randall, with tarek failing that he will be eliminated eventually so it would be wise for his teammates to keep him on
Gold Rush is pretty divided, the next project manager is in for a world of trouble
it always bothered me when the results are so close and trump treats it like a big victory, it was 43-40, essentially a crapshoot
the other team had a good plan and were clearly more organized, tarek believed that he could win out of pure brute sales (and he almost did)
I would expect the "russian" and the "bloke" to stay for at least another 5 or 6 episodes to keep the show "international"
Tarek
shows you how much IQ means. for someone who seems to be so proud of his IQ, didn't really show much smarts did he.
the CLEAR argument here was, HEY, we sold FORTY memberships. we lost by THREE. in other words, they weren't OUTCLASSED they only lost by a small amount so don't argue big points, argue the small points, particularly that girl didn't make the phone calls. there was no other argument necessary.
OBVIOUSLY if they had lost 43 to 20 or something, the PM would be in serious trouble, but if you lose by 3 memberships, the PM didn't screw up, execution was the problem and in this case, that girl NOT making the phone calls was the key problem.
shows you how much IQ means. for someone who seems to be so proud of his IQ, didn't really show much smarts did he.
the CLEAR argument here was, HEY, we sold FORTY memberships. we lost by THREE. in other words, they weren't OUTCLASSED they only lost by a small amount so don't argue big points, argue the small points, particularly that girl didn't make the phone calls. there was no other argument necessary.
OBVIOUSLY if they had lost 43 to 20 or something, the PM would be in serious trouble, but if you lose by 3 memberships, the PM didn't screw up, execution was the problem and in this case, that girl NOT making the phone calls was the key problem.
trump has never bought that, he's all about a win is a win
the only time he went ballistic about margin of victory that I remember is the time last season when he fired the four (they dropped sales by 17% and the other group increased by 77%)
tarek did not plan thoroughly his board strategy, he didn't expect to be attacked by the other 3
he's pure sales, he doesn't have the all-around game that you need to be the apprentice
They didnt really advertise for this season at all. They always hyped up the other ones. I didnt even know about this one until I was flipping through channels today. Didnt the last season just end?
Lee could have heavily increased his stock in the boardroom because of that, sadly he failed to take advantage.
He should have told trump that tarek threatened him to not voice his concerns to the trump but since he is really working for the donald it was his obligation to inform him of the lack of creativity.
The girl was stupid tho, I mean, wasn't she from Florida? What does it matter if 100 restaurant owners tell her to DIAF? At least she would have made the calls and been proven correct which equals 100% Tarek firing.
your probably right, but it's pretty stupid not to take into account margin.
there is a HUGE difference in sales between losing 43 - 40 and losing 43 - 5.
if you lose 43 - 5 definitely the project manager has to go, if you lose 43 - 40, not necessarily the project manager.
jmo of course.
besides, this is win/lose in SALES which means that both sams clubs gained in memberships, sams club won at both stores. neither team represented sams club badly, which would have been the real LOSE situation.
Tarek messed up a number of things:
Very weak promotions he had empty "gift bags" and the blimp saying Sam's was a Big Deal
Too optimistic at the first boardroom when asked how he thought he did. Makes it hard to turn around later and say "So and so didn't do $#^%" when you are all confidence before you know the results. A bit of caution is advised, even if one's team was perfect, the other team might be perfect as well, and get lucky (and thus beat you). You always want to set up some defense as early as possible. That's not to say you're pessimistic about your chances of wining, but you better not be dead certain.
Brought too many people back to the boardroom. Obviously his only "savior" was the nontelemarketing woman, so he should only have brought her back. Nobody has been fired for bringing too few people back, as long as they brought back people that deserved it. Tarek had no solid reasons for bringing Lenny and Lee, other than a mere odds play. And an odds play (where one brings in plenty of innocent bodies hoping one of them catches the bullet) is an insult to the Trumpster. People have been fired for bringing in others that did not deserve it.
Finally, the first mistake Tarek made was to not watch the earlier seasons. If he had, he'd have known better than to make these mistakes.
Very weak promotions he had empty "gift bags" and the blimp saying Sam's was a Big Deal
Too optimistic at the first boardroom when asked how he thought he did. Makes it hard to turn around later and say "So and so didn't do $#^%" when you are all confidence before you know the results. A bit of caution is advised, even if one's team was perfect, the other team might be perfect as well, and get lucky (and thus beat you). You always want to set up some defense as early as possible. That's not to say you're pessimistic about your chances of wining, but you better not be dead certain.
Brought too many people back to the boardroom. Obviously his only "savior" was the nontelemarketing woman, so he should only have brought her back. Nobody has been fired for bringing too few people back, as long as they brought back people that deserved it. Tarek had no solid reasons for bringing Lenny and Lee, other than a mere odds play. And an odds play (where one brings in plenty of innocent bodies hoping one of them catches the bullet) is an insult to the Trumpster. People have been fired for bringing in others that did not deserve it.
Finally, the first mistake Tarek made was to not watch the earlier seasons. If he had, he'd have known better than to make these mistakes.
in general if a team loses, i think the PM is the most at fault.
in this particular show, you can't let the one girl get away with not doing what she was asked to do.
if she had made 200 calls instead of the 1 (or was it 3) that she made, it could easily have been the difference of 3 more memberships.
also, her BS about it wasn't a good time to be calling a restaraunt is just plain stupid. i've done lots of telephone sales and there is NEVER a good time to be calling, if you wait for a "good" time to call, you never will.
also, if the client you are calling has an interest in your product or in your presentation, they will listen no matter how busy they are.
she deserved to get fired.
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