new school lunch rules

[Saint Nick]

All this pizza talk sure has me thinking...:hmm:

 

[waggy]

actully OP i remember reading about this happening in more schools.

They have "experts" come in and change the menu. tons of veggies and other stuff. they impose rules like no home lunches. so the kids eat the schools food.

what they are finding is kids aren't eating. they will sit through recess instead of eating it. so at the end of lunch the amount of waste is far greater then it was before they changed the menu.

but the school really does not care. since EVERY kid has to buy lunch (btw they raised the price) they are making out.

its insane.

 

[Imported]

I loved school lunches back in the day.. Pizza, chalupas, turkey and gravy, etc. Now the lunches suck it appears.. fruits and veggies? I would be brown bagging it every day.

 

[Exterous]

I *can* buy, not "I buy." That little three letter word is there for a reason. The only time frozen pizzas ever happened in my house was when I had two growing boys who who ate me out of house and home. I'd pick up 10 of those cheap, nasty pizzas for under $10, and they'd be gone - just in the form of snacks - by the end of the week.

So no stone and goat bone pizza stone? 🙁

 

[Regs]

Where is the protein and starch?

 

[diesbudt]

actully OP i remember reading about this happening in more schools.

They have "experts" come in and change the menu. tons of veggies and other stuff. they impose rules like no home lunches. so the kids eat the schools food.

what they are finding is kids aren't eating. they will sit through recess instead of eating it. so at the end of lunch the amount of waste is far greater then it was before they changed the menu.

but the school really does not care. since EVERY kid has to buy lunch (btw they raised the price) they are making out.

its insane.

Has to? do they have the option of not buying the lunch and having nothing?

 

[diesbudt]

Where is the protein and starch?

This.

Starch is proven to be filling and can actually help one retain a lower weight through some manipulation it does in the intestines.

Protein, is really good. A high (lean) protein and veggie diet does wonders. Fruits are good, to an extent. High in sugar though. Dairy is important, though limited and grains for a growing high metabolish child are important.

 

[Pulsar]

Our school lunch used to be 1.75. Now its 2.25 what the fuck.

And they serve pizza from little Caesars everyday. Lol.

North Carolina. Fatties united

Please put this in perspective. Let us know where else you can get a lunch for $2.25.

I go out to eat for dinner on a fairly regular basis since I work afternoon shift. Even a cheap meal at McDonalds which is far worse for you health-wise is easily 3 or 4 times the price you quoted.

Hell, 20 years ago when I was in school, a cookie and a chocolate milk were almost half of what you're quoting.

To the OP, get better info. I'm unsure why you'd be upset about them serving veggies, etc. Also, people will eat when they are hungry. If they're choosing to throw food away, then they are spoiled and not truly hungry.

If you're upset about the prices, pack a lunch. They can't force you to eat their food.

I have 3 small children as well. They brown bag every day. If the school ever put up a stink, I'd tell them to go to hell. They are not the parent, and they will not tell me what I can feed my children.

 

[MarkXIX]

I guess my kid is one of the only ones that is generally happy eating fruits and most vegetables without being threatened to do so.

She has started to request lunches from home though far more frequently lately. Time to investigate.

 

[diesbudt]

I guess my kid is one of the only ones that is generally happy eating fruits and most vegetables without being threatened to do so.

She has started to request lunches from home though far more frequently lately. Time to investigate.

Don't forget. All good investigatiors use pitch forks and torches via Mob style.

 

[silverpig]

Wow, my mom made my lunch every day when I was in school. Sandwich, fruit, yogurt, granola bar, juice box.

 

[MarkXIX]

Don't forget. All good investigatiors use pitch forks and torches via Mob style.

And posts to internet forums...

I think I shall develop a pitch fork with the torches as the tines. Pointy AND flamey at the same time should work.

PS - Nope, looks like my kid's lunch menu is still in violation of the new nanny state lunch laws. Good thing we live in a state where I have to teach my kids evolution on the weekends and they can still eat crap food that makes them fat. 'Merica!

PPS - My 1st grader actually memorizes the lunch menu and then reminds us when to make her lunch the night before there's something she knows she won't like.

 

[imagoon]

I guess my kid is one of the only ones that is generally happy eating fruits and most vegetables without being threatened to do so.

She has started to request lunches from home though far more frequently lately. Time to investigate.

You might want to verify the fruit and vegetables at school actually count as food. Growing up I was fine with most vegetables. However the schools were way over cooked and generally salted to hell. Ie I would eat fresh or [well] frozen green beans. The ones at school could be whipped in to a paste using a spork... and was way to salty to boot. (one example)

 

[l0cke]

I had school lunch almost every day through K-12. Sometimes the best strategy was not to ask or think about what you were eating, just eat it. I can't even remember what they served in elementary school, probably for the better.

In elementary school they had assigned seats, and a strict no-trading rule. When 10 minutes were left in the lunch period, they would turn off all the lights (really easy to eat in the dark apparently?) and enforce a no-talking rule. Also, parents were allowed to visit for lunch. Maybe OP can try that?

 

[Corporate Thug]

op, you are not getting the whole story.

 

[Newbian]

In elementary school they had assigned seats, and a strict no-trading rule. When 10 minutes were left in the lunch period, they would turn off all the lights (really easy to eat in the dark apparently?) and enforce a no-talking rule. Also, parents were allowed to visit for lunch. Maybe OP can try that?

Where did you go to school? 😱

For me the lunch time was the same time used for a recess and after eating you headed outside or a gym or to one of the assigned class rooms to hang out / do homework.

 

[Blitzvogel]

Healthy provisions I don't think have to cost so much as people like to imagine, but it means parents need to get on board with school decisions and what is going on there. Forcing children into only being allowed school food (especially if it has to be bought) is a pretty bad practice too, because so much of the food is going to be wasted if it's overly health focused.

A true cafeteria system would make more sense. You get a main entree for a specific price, and the addition of whatever else at an additional cost. It would help to manage waste and cost a bit since children could skip over something they do not want and/or substitute it for something else.

Also, assuming the Japs still practice it this way, use the classrooms as the place for eating and/or recess, where the teachers can keep some eye on them. They go to the "cafeteria" (where food is prepared and served) and return to the classroom to sit down. Hallway sides of the classroom should be made of glass windows so tabs can be kept on students without having to be in the rooms themselves, but students would be able to freely move about around the classrooms and hallway if they choose. So essentially it would be a lunch and socialize period with a possible outside recess tacked on as well. The Japanese also I know have in some schools the students take part in janitorial duties, especially classroom upkeep which would reduce the time and cost of having a dedicated janitor, whiling instilling some sort of personal responsibility and pride in the students in keeping their classrooms tidy. While I wouldn't want the Japanese obsession of pressure education, the practice of making the students involved with more than just their schoolwork could be an important part of their personal development by teaching personal and group responsibility. Surely, school days might be a bit longer, or a need to move to a 6 day school week might be needed (which I kind of wish would happen), but there are plenty of things the US could implement in some moderate form here that might fix some of the stupid BS that exists already or is in the planning stages.

 

[nanette1985]

op, you are not getting the whole story.

True. I was baby sitting while daughter was working when her kids were talking about things

My memories of school lunch include fish sticks and apple crisp. Things were different in the 50's & 60's.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Isin't pizza legally considered a vegetable in the states? So technically, you could pack that. You'd probably have to lawyer up but you'd win, and it would make a pretty funny case.

What's up with schools and lunches anyway? Here it's pretty bad too, especially the whole peanut allergy thing. Kids are not even allowed any peanut/nut products at all in their lunches. When I was in school, which was not THAT long ago, we could bring whatever the hell we wanted, and there were also some people allergic to stuff but they were smart enough to stay away from those foods.

 

[sactoking]

Has to? do they have the option of not buying the lunch and having nothing?

In some schools? No.

There have been anecdotal stories on these forums over the past few years of schools and districts determining that the food brought by children from home wasn't sufficiently nutritious. Those schools and districts then enacted "no home food" policies forcing children to buy school lunch. If the kids don't bring money the school forces them to take a lunch (which gets thrown away) and they rack up a few dollars on a tab that they send to the parents when it gets to some arbitrarily large threshold, like $30 or $60.

 

[zinfamous]

give it some time. kids will adjust. the younger the better.

 

[ViRGE]

Our local public elementary schools don't provide lunch. Brown bag it or starve.

That has to suck. I won't give school food high marks, but a hot meal is usually far more enjoyable than a cold meal. I couldn't imagine eating a cold meal for lunch every single day.

 

[waggy]

interesting.

oddly over at http://www.overlawyered.com they have a section dovoted to this issue. They don't like the new rules for lunch at all. they have a few articles linked.

one http://www.southcoasttoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20120913/NEWS/209130378 brings up a good point. The new meals are SMALLER and include stuff they won't eat. so the kids are going hungry.

this impacts poor students who this may be the only good meal of the day (that in itself is rather sad) and student athletes who need more calories. So many kids are starting to "brown bag" it. the schools are starting to see the revenue go down.

oh and there is a new "contraband" in the school. chocolate syrup for the milk. the school banned flavored milk so the kids are bringing it in to flavor it so they can drink the skim milk they are given.


lol from http://www.jsonline.com/news/education/students-strike-against-new-federal-school-lunch-rules-t96t7sp-170124676.html

Last year's fare featured favorites like chicken nuggets and mini corn dogs in helpings that were "relatively decent," Bougneit said. But health-conscious regulations have changed that. Last week's super nacho plate, for example, offered just eight tortilla chips.

bwhahah super nacho plate..with 8 chips! SUPER!

 

[Saulbadguy]

Yeah, it's a shame that schools are trying to make kids eat meals that are better for them.

I remember the day when they used to get pizza, french fries and burgers in the cafeteria. SIGH.

Now they STARVE to death after all they have to eat is whole grains, fresh fruits and vegetables!

 

[diesbudt]

give it some time. kids will adjust. the younger the better.

You do not force change on people, even children. You teach lessons to work towards a development of change.

That is the issue. And the school lunches (if true just veggies and fruits) need to be more balanced.

If I was a 4th grader told I MUST eat what the school gave me and would charge an "account/tab" reguardless if I protested by not brining money. I would put the food to good use. Remember, the food fight is a very importent invention.