New record at Golden Gate Bridge

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BoomerD

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Wow I did not realize any bridge was high enough for that.

http://gocalifornia.about.com/cs/sanfrancisco/a/ggbridge_3.htm

Clearance above the high water (average): 220 feet (67 m)

The towers are about another 500 feet high. It's a good thing they control access to those...or else there'd be lots of smears on the roadway to fuck up the commute...

yes, the big opposition to suicide fences/barriers is aesthetics...don't want to mess up the big, pretty bridge.
 

OCGuy

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Does society always have to cater to the lowest denominator? The fact that other bridges have fences, yet these people still find a way to die, proves they are ineffective.

As worthless as a drug war.
 

BoomerD

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Does society always have to cater to the lowest denominator? The fact that other bridges have fences, yet these people still find a way to die, proves they are ineffective.

As worthless as a drug war.

Except the drug war COULD be won...if there only wasn't so much money to be made fighting it, incarcerating the losers, and by the ones who receive all the "grease" along the way.

A MUCH tougher stance on drug possession, trafficking, and drug use would put a big dent in it...and locking down the borders would make it MUCH more difficult to smuggle it into the country.

Stop slapping drug users on the wrist for possession and sales...
 

SlickSnake

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Guess they'll have to install some nets to catch people trying to kill themselves. :biggrin:

What a pain in the ass for those Foxxcon execs. Spend all that time and money to train these kids and they go kill themselves and you have to train new ones! :p

Not worth it, they will just crawl off the nets and finish the job.

What happens when they survive the plunge? Do they take that as a sign from God to live, or just climb back up and try again?

It's a whole lot faster to just step in front of a bus or a subway or something moving rather than jump off a bridge or building. I just can't imagine being desperate enough to ever do anything like that.
 

SlickSnake

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impact/internal bleeding and drowning.

it's one of the worst ways to go:
http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/LETHAL-BEAUTY-No-easy-death-Suicide-by-bridge-2562269.php

The whole jumping then drowning thing just don't make sense. If they just wanted to drown, they can simply walk into the ocean and breath water and even do that in a bathtub.

I think the force of impact depending on how you hit the water probably knocks out most of them, then they drown, regardless of any internal injuries from hitting the water.
 

Red Squirrel

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Not worth it, they will just crawl off the nets and finish the job.

What happens when they survive the plunge? Do they take that as a sign from God to live, or just climb back up and try again?

It's a whole lot faster to just step in front of a bus or a subway or something moving rather than jump off a bridge or building. I just can't imagine being desperate enough to ever do anything like that.

Yeah people who really want to go will find a way. The suicide hot line/messages at common suicide locations is probably more affective than physical barriers. At least with those phones (when they work lol) and the fact that they're there, might make the person think about it. Would be interesting to see if those actually do get used for their purposes and if they've actually worked though.
 

mizzou

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The most common successful suicide I've seen around here have been by gunfire. Unfortunately, you sometimes survive those!! D:
 

BudAshes

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Except the drug war COULD be won...if there only wasn't so much money to be made fighting it, incarcerating the losers, and by the ones who receive all the "grease" along the way.

A MUCH tougher stance on drug possession, trafficking, and drug use would put a big dent in it...and locking down the borders would make it MUCH more difficult to smuggle it into the country.

Stop slapping drug users on the wrist for possession and sales...

Yeah, we should take away everything that could possibly be dangerous from everyone and put anyone who disagrees in prison. No guns, no drugs, no pointy sticks and everyone wears a helmet all the time that's wrapped in bubble wrap so it cant be used to hurt anything.

grandpa_simpson_yelling_at_cloud.jpg
 

AViking

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what is the actual cause of death when jumping off a bridge?


the combination of impact + breaking of bones/passing out and then drowning?

When the idiot newspapers were hyping up the 1000'th jump they said that they suspected many people died before hitting the water from a heart attack.

After that anyone who has ever cliff dived knows that water is as hard as a rock. Especially from that height.

Those that survive jump straight down I would assume. If you want to die do a bellyflop.

Besides that you can die within a few minutes if you jump during the winter. Or you'll drown. Plus I wouldn't be surprised if the bay has some nice sized man eaters.
 
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would diving head first with arms straightend out and both hands in a fist help?

kind of like how olympic high divers do it?
 

AViking

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would diving head first with arms straightend out and both hands in a fist help?

kind of like how olympic high divers do it?

Headfirst off a bridge? I can't imagine that being a good idea. You want to land like an arrow, slight angle, with your feet pointing down. At least that was how I was taught to cliff dive. Too straight it hurts like hell. Feet not pointed and you'll really be hurting. Going head first might work if you have a crazy strong neck.
 

OBLAMA2009

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A better question is why you would jump off of any other bridge, if you live in the area.

the reason is its super axe high in the air and it has pedestrian walkways (the old bay bridge didnt) so its easy to access. despite the height a number of people have survived the jump. the water is really cold as well, so if you survive the impact theres a good chance youd die or hypothermia before you could be rescued, if you didnt drown first
 
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AViking

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I've seen some crazy high divers at the circus too but I don't think we're talking about professional jumpers. 172 feet is still less than the 227 feet high the golden gate is.

There was an idiot who jumped off the bridge a few years ago for the fun of it. He lived. He also broke a lot of bones and punctured a lung. Had a stupid name like Sea Otter or something. The kid would have died if a surfer wasn't in the water at the time, saw him fall, and pulled him to shore.
 

ViRGE

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The kid would have died if a surfer wasn't in the water at the time, saw him fall, and pulled him to shore.
There's the part I don't get. Suicide I can understand. But why are people trying to "save" jumpers who are clearly intending to die?

They were achieving their life's goal, and then some busybody ruined it for them.:p
 

SSSnail

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OP,I thought you're posting about the bridge toll. But I suspect a lot of the jumps are related to the high bridge toll that they have to pay. And they're raising the toll again because they need more money to pay for a bridge that's long paid for...
 

Drako

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OP,I thought you're posting about the bridge toll. But I suspect a lot of the jumps are related to the high bridge toll that they have to pay. And they're raising the toll again because they need more money to pay for a bridge that's long paid for...

My guess is that the jumpers finally realized that San Francisco is not the utopia that they thought it was, but actually hell on earth. :colbert:

It has nothing to do with bridge tolls, or the inept and corrupt CA government.
 

Ns1

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followup:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...measures-to-dissuade-people-from-jumping.html

Death is certain in 98 percent of leaps. The drop takes four seconds and the jumper hits the water at 75 mph. Only five percent survive that impact, then drown or die of cold in the treacherous waters.

There has been disagreement for decades about improving suicide prevention, principally because raising the railings on the footpath would inhibit the spectacular view.

Now that the main focus is on a 20-foot wide, plastic-covered steel net under the walkway, the authorities are close to agreeing and providing the funding.

California Highway Patrol police officers swoop whenever anyone is spotted over the railing.

Kevin Briggs, one of the officers, has talked hundreds of people out of leaping – or grabbed them as they wavered, once spending seven hours persuading a depressed father not to throw himself off.

“But I remember one man who, after I talked to him for 40 to 60 minutes, just said ‘Kevin, I have to go now’ and he jumped,” he said.