New Mexico declares gay marriage bans unconstitutional

[xj0hnx]

its a bullshit lie to say that two gays getting married has no impact on others.

LOLWUT!?! Two dudes, or two chicks getting married in no way whatsoever effects you, or anyone else.

Marriage has always been between man and woman and was created for the procreation of mankind.

That's just stupid, and flat out false, if it had even the slightest micron of truth to it the human race would have died off after the first humans that didn't even have a concept of "marriage" and yet still somehow managed to fuck and drop little caveman's everywhere.

Our whole society is built on this,

No, it's not.

if the gays want their union, good for them but call it something else.

How about they call it whatever they want, including marriage, and you stop being such an insecure tardcart?

Why the rest of mankind must accept change for the such of the few is beyond me.

Yes, we should always trample the rights of the minority, that what this country was founded on 🙄

SS union is not the same, never will be no matter how much gays cry over it or think it is.

It is exactly the same. Our gay neighbors relationship has absolute zero effect on me, and my wife's marriage, absolute zero.

 

[Moonbeam]

Yep, but don't take our word for it. Take the word of a same-sex marriage advocate:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/...nd_people_aren_t_as_gay_friendly_as_they.html

LOLWUT!?! Two dudes, or two chicks getting married in no way whatsoever effects you, or anyone else.



That's just stupid, and flat out false, if it had even the slightest micron of truth to it the human race would have died off after the first humans that didn't even have a concept of "marriage" and yet still somehow managed to fuck and drop little caveman's everywhere.



No, it's not.



How about they call it whatever they want, including marriage, and you stop being such an insecure tardcart?



Yes, we should always trample the rights of the minority, that what this country was founded on 🙄



It is exactly the same. Our gay neighbors relationship has absolute zero effect on me, and my wife's marriage, absolute zero.

Now, any more questions, you fucking bigots?

 

[Victorian Gray]

Because the purpose of marriage is to CONTROL procreation.

Same-sex unions being inherently unable to procreate have no need of control and are therefore outside the purview of marriage.

So, any opposite sex folks who are infertile or do not wish to procreate should not be allowed to marry?

 

[Victorian Gray]

Polygamy and Polyandry will not be far behind.

And this is supposed to frighten me because?

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Because the purpose of marriage is to CONTROL procreation.

Is that what it says in the Official Marriage Handbook©? On which page can I find that?

 

[michal1980]

LOLWUT!?! Two dudes, or two chicks getting married in no way whatsoever effects you, or anyone else.

It goes,

1) read the article posted earlier
2) baker forced to bake cake for gays

IE your lying if you claim that marriage doesn't effect anyone but the people getting married.

 

[Anarchist420]

i hope im wrong, but i really think the gay rights movement is not going to stop with natural rights but it's rather going to turn out the same way the "civil rights" movement did, as they both got their first advancement by non-discrimination in the military.

that said, fuck both sides... they're both a bunch of traditionalist pro-marriage assholes because if the gay marriage proponents really cared about liberty, then they'd ask the State to stay out of marriage.

 

[Texashiker]

Wait, I thought you said they were immoral? Is my sarcasm detector on the fritz?

Sex between men and women is fine.

Even if that is 2 wives and 1 husband, or 2 husbands and 1 wife.

Sticking your penis in a mans ass for sexual pleasure is immoral.

 

[xj0hnx]

It goes,

1) read the article posted earlier
2) baker forced to bake cake for gays

IE your lying if you claim that marriage doesn't effect anyone but the people getting married.

HAHAHA!!! No one put a gun to anyone's head and forced them to bake a cake, and it doesn't change a god damn thing for the baker whether the cake is for a straight couple, or a gay couple, he has to make it exactly the same way, there is not "gay cake" recipe. The only thing that changes is his own bigoted insecurity.

So no, it doesn't effect anyone.

 

[Paratus]

It goes,

1) read the article posted earlier
2) baker forced to bake cake for gays

IE your lying if you claim that marriage doesn't effect anyone but the people getting married.

You mean he was forced to follow applicable state laws that he was still forced to follow even before gays were allowed to marry.

Still baking a cake for a gay couple does sound horrifying. Does it make you cry when you think about the poor baker? You can tell us, you're among friends. 😉

 

[xj0hnx]

i hope im wrong, but i really think the gay rights movement is not going to stop with natural rights but it's rather going to turn out the same way the "civil rights" movement did, as they both got their first advancement by non-discrimination in the military.

that said, fuck both sides... they're both a bunch of traditionalist pro-marriage assholes because if the gay marriage proponents really cared about liberty, then they'd ask the State to stay out of marriage.

"Gay rights" IS a fucking civil right you dunce. There is no reason at all other than insecure bigotry to tell two consenting adults they can't marry. The whole "family values" bullshit has been completely destroyed so the homophobic scared little girls are trying desperately to pretend that two same sex consenting adults getting married somehow has some profoundly disruptive, effect on them is all they have left to hide behind. What's funny is some of these same people were the ones crying about keeping Uncle Sam out of their bedrooms when it effected their sex life with their partner, but now ohhhh nooooo.

 

[Capt Caveman]

I know plenty of gay couples with kids. I know that nobody's marriage has any affect on me. The stupidity, bigotry and ignorance in this forum is scary.

 

[SolMiester]

LOLWUT!?! Two dudes, or two chicks getting married in no way whatsoever effects you, or anyone else.



That's just stupid, and flat out false, if it had even the slightest micron of truth to it the human race would have died off after the first humans that didn't even have a concept of "marriage" and yet still somehow managed to fuck and drop little caveman's everywhere.



No, it's not.



How about they call it whatever they want, including marriage, and you stop being such an insecure tardcart?



Yes, we should always trample the rights of the minority, that what this country was founded on 🙄



It is exactly the same. Our gay neighbors relationship has absolute zero effect on me, and my wife's marriage, absolute zero.

Dude, you are too me focused and worried about yourself to look at society.

 

[thraashman]

Sex between men and women is fine.

Even if that is 2 wives and 1 husband, or 2 husbands and 1 wife.

Sticking your penis in a mans ass for sexual pleasure is immoral.

Well that's your (very narrow minded) opinion. What consenting adults do with eachother isn't any of my business, nor yours. I think people living in Texas are inherently immoral, guess we should ban them from being able to continue doing that lest they spread that immorality!

People like Texashiker and nehalem are the perfect examples of people who if karma existed should have gay children. Though honestly I expect either one of them would disown or possibly even kill their child if they came out as gay.

 

[mikeymikec]

what a lie.

marriage is about having other accept it. by its definition its forcing others to accept your union.

So you think that freedom and marriage are two conflicting concepts? 😵 Whose union have you been forced to recognise, and how was that accomplished?

Sex between men and women is fine.

Even if that is 2 wives and 1 husband, or 2 husbands and 1 wife.

Sticking your penis in a mans ass for sexual pleasure is immoral.

So a gay couple who don't engage in anal sex are OK with you? Is a hetero married couple engaging in anal sex OK as far as you're concerned? Should all marriages be inspected on a regular basis to ensure that they live up to your standards of morality?

 

[Moonbeam]

Sex between men and women is fine.

Even if that is 2 wives and 1 husband, or 2 husbands and 1 wife.

Sticking your penis in a mans ass for sexual pleasure is immoral.

Have mercy on yourself. Can't you see that the only place that immorality exists is between your ears. You have created the evil. Where the love of God should be you've put on the thrown your own filthy asshole. You judge and so condemn yourself. You have created your own hell. It takes a tremendous fool to do that. You condemn the sexual practices of others and by doing so fuck yourself to pleasure your bigotry. You are what you condemn.

 

[compuwiz1]

The Bible says two men ought not lay together.......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4V1GqDnUkkQ

 

[dawp]

Sex between men and women is fine.

Even if that is 2 wives and 1 husband, or 2 husbands and 1 wife.

Sticking your penis in a mans ass for sexual pleasure is immoral.

you do know that strait couples enjoy anal sex too, don't you? does that make me immoral?

 

[fskimospy]

It goes,

1) read the article posted earlier
2) baker forced to bake cake for gays

IE your lying if you claim that marriage doesn't effect anyone but the people getting married.

Gay marriage is banned in the state (Colorado) where the baker was required to make the cake, dumbass.

The ability or lack thereof of gay people to get married is a totally different issue than the ability of businesses to discriminate based on sexual orientation.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Blatant lie. In fact we had a 300+ post thread proving what you say to be a lie.

More Nehalem BS.....

 

[Jimzz]

Yet another state surrenders to an immoral lifestyle.

Yep; just like those immoral people that Divorce.

Matthew 19:9
I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery

 

[Texashiker]

Yep; just like those immoral people that Divorce.

Matthew 19:9
I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery

Next time please post the full verse,

Matthew 19:9
I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery."

It is perfectly fine to divorce someone for sexual immorality and then marry someone else.

My dislike for gay sex has little to do with religion. I try not to mix religion and sex.

 

[nehalem256]

Well that's your (very narrow minded) opinion. What consenting adults do with eachother isn't any of my business, nor yours. I think people living in Texas are inherently immoral, guess we should ban them from being able to continue doing that lest they spread that immorality!

People like Texashiker and nehalem are the perfect examples of people who if karma existed should have gay children. Though honestly I expect either one of them would disown or possibly even kill their child if they came out as gay.

Could not come up with a better argument against gay marriage then what you just stated.

But part of it was inherent in the battle for marriage, which, after all, takes its very meaning from the quest for public recognition of a couple’s union. The whole point of a wedding, from a cultural perspective, is for a couple to invite their community to recognize and help enforce—indeed to approve of—their union as a positive thing worth supporting. There has always been something a bit disingenuous about gay rights activists insisting that they deserve marital recognition from their society because their relationships are nobody’s business but their own. Marriage is all about making your relationship other people’s business.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/...nd_people_aren_t_as_gay_friendly_as_they.html

What two gay people do is none of my business. It would seem we agree. You just have issues understanding what marriage is.

Perhaps you should try learning what marriage is before debating it?

 

[nehalem256]

Gay marriage is banned in the state (Colorado) where the baker was required to make the cake, dumbass.

The ability or lack thereof of gay people to get married is a totally different issue than the ability of businesses to discriminate based on sexual orientation.

So in eskimospyland it is totally normally for people not getting married to purchase wedding cakes?😱

 

[nehalem256]

Okay lets look at the courts opinion:

However, the purported governmental interest of “responsible procreation and childrearing” is not reflected in the history of the development of New Mexico’s marriagelaws. Procreation has never been a condition of marriage under New Mexico law, asevidenced by the fact that the aged, the infertile, and those who choose not to have childrenare not precluded from marrying.

We conclude that the purpose of New Mexico marriage laws is to bring stability and order to the legal relationship of committed couples by defining their rights and responsibilities as to one another, their children if they choose to raise children together, and their property

The court rejects the idea of "pro-creation and childrearing" because it is not a requirement. Seems like they should similarly reject their idea of "bringing stability and order to relationships" on the same grounds given that there is no requirement for marriages to be stable; and in fact the government specifically endorses instability by allowing the dissolution of marriage at anytime for any reason.