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New Medical Marijuana Policy

Originally posted by: rdubbz420
Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer
Originally posted by: rdubbz420
drug companies will not like this...

Why? They can just as easily be suppliers

why buy a $100 pill when you can grow in your basement free?

Same with tobacco I guess, you are legally allowed to grow a certain amount for personal use, but its just easier to pay someone else to do it for you
 
Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer


Same with tobacco I guess, you are legally allowed to grow a certain amount for personal use, but its just easier to pay someone else to do it for you

Tobacco's hard to grow. Anyone can get plants to come up, but raising them, and more importantly, treating them after harvest is labor intensive and difficult. Growing decent weed's easy. It might not be world class, but you can get something good with very little effort.
 
Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer
Originally posted by: rdubbz420
Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer
Originally posted by: rdubbz420
drug companies will not like this...

Why? They can just as easily be suppliers

why buy a $100 pill when you can grow in your basement free?

Same with tobacco I guess, you are legally allowed to grow a certain amount for personal use, but its just easier to pay someone else to do it for you

i don't know since i don't smoke tobacco. but i like to know that the weed i smoke and eat sometimes is grown without pesticides.
 
god damn about time.

It's not about marijuana itself, but federal prosecution for something that is not prosecutable in the state.

The State's are supposed to have the right to run things their way as long as it isn't against the U.S. Constitution, and the Feds are not supposed to come looking for vengeance inside of said states.

If a state says it wants to have a specific policy on Marijuana, it is the state's decision, and the Federal government should have absolutely no say in the issue, even if the state made it fully legal.

I mean, states have varying alcohol policies. Cannot buy 190 proof alcoholic beverages in many states for instance. Sure, there is a difference in that alcohol is a legal drug.
How about cigarettes being banned from public places in some states. Another federally legal consumable, but that, to some people, could be argued as approaching illegally stripping rights. It's not, but the state has their say in what goes on in that state.
Marijuana is just an opposite issue - federally illegal with states disagreeing on that status. Damn straight. About time someone gave it to the Feds, give it to them good I say. Some state needs to make it completely legal. I want to see both sides bickering like mad, finally bring some major attention to the federal policy in general.
 
Originally posted by: rdubbz420
Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer
Originally posted by: rdubbz420
Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer
Originally posted by: rdubbz420
drug companies will not like this...

Why? They can just as easily be suppliers

why buy a $100 pill when you can grow in your basement free?

Same with tobacco I guess, you are legally allowed to grow a certain amount for personal use, but its just easier to pay someone else to do it for you

i don't know since i don't smoke tobacco. but i like to know that the weed i smoke and eat sometimes is grown without pesticides.

Why goto Jiffy Lube when I can do oil changes myself? Why eat out/order in when I can cook for myself whenever I want? Why get the landscapers to cut my grass when I can get my own lawnmower and do it? Why buy beer when you can brew your own?

There are lots of things Joe Average American can do for himself and yet pays others to do.
 
Originally posted by: rdubbz420
Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer
Originally posted by: rdubbz420
drug companies will not like this...

Why? They can just as easily be suppliers

why buy a $100 pill when you can grow in your basement free?

Because medical MJ isn't a "cure-all"? Nor will it always substitute for some of the treatments it's often used for.
 
I dont smoke weed, but so many people scam the system with pretend symptoms just to get stoned - its ridiculous. I wonder what percentage of people have actual medical needs and what percent are scammers. And how long it will be before the Mexican drug cartels start cashing in. 🙁
 
Originally posted by: crownjules
Originally posted by: rdubbz420
Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer
Originally posted by: rdubbz420
Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer
Originally posted by: rdubbz420
drug companies will not like this...

Why? They can just as easily be suppliers

why buy a $100 pill when you can grow in your basement free?

Same with tobacco I guess, you are legally allowed to grow a certain amount for personal use, but its just easier to pay someone else to do it for you

i don't know since i don't smoke tobacco. but i like to know that the weed i smoke and eat sometimes is grown without pesticides.

Why goto Jiffy Lube when I can do oil changes myself? Why eat out/order in when I can cook for myself whenever I want? Why get the landscapers to cut my grass when I can get my own lawnmower and do it? Why buy beer when you can brew your own?

There are lots of things Joe Average American can do for himself and yet pays others to do.

you missed the point. if you are on chemotherapy and need to take 3 $100 pills a day to keep your food down. why continue to pay drug companies $300 a day when any dummy can grown a plant in their basement. changing your own oil saves about $20 every 3 months. growing your own could save thousands of dollars a month.
 
Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Originally posted by: rdubbz420
Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer
Originally posted by: rdubbz420
drug companies will not like this...

Why? They can just as easily be suppliers

why buy a $100 pill when you can grow in your basement free?

Because medical MJ isn't a "cure-all"? Nor will it always substitute for some of the treatments it's often used for.

i never claimed it was.
 
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
I dont smoke weed, but so many people scam the system with pretend symptoms just to get stoned - its ridiculous. I wonder what percentage of people have actual medical needs and what percent are scammers. And how long it will be before the Mexican drug cartels start cashing in. 🙁

How many people today fake illnesses just to get prescription drugs, this is no different.

As for the cartels, as long as they are paying taxes, I dont care. It is still regulated, its not a free for all, its up to the states to regulate.
 
Originally posted by: rdubbz420
Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Originally posted by: rdubbz420
Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer
Originally posted by: rdubbz420
drug companies will not like this...

Why? They can just as easily be suppliers

why buy a $100 pill when you can grow in your basement free?

Because medical MJ isn't a "cure-all"? Nor will it always substitute for some of the treatments it's often used for.

i never claimed it was.

Yeah, I realize that now...now that my brain is turning on for the morning.
 
Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
I dont smoke weed, but so many people scam the system with pretend symptoms just to get stoned - its ridiculous. I wonder what percentage of people have actual medical needs and what percent are scammers. And how long it will be before the Mexican drug cartels start cashing in. 🙁

How many people today fake illnesses just to get prescription drugs, this is no different.

As for the cartels, as long as they are paying taxes, I dont care. It is still regulated, its not a free for all, its up to the states to regulate.

How could you say such a thing? If American drug cartels acted like the Mexican drug cartels you wouldnt be so flippant. Imagine people going into drug rehab centers and killing everyone as punishment because a local corrupt police official taking drug money was arrested. Or how about your local cartel mobilizing a private army to disrupt elections, kill law enforcement, execute American soldiers in cold blood, etc., etc., etc.

Be careful what you ask for....you just might get it.
 
Originally posted by: crownjules
Originally posted by: rdubbz420
Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer
Originally posted by: rdubbz420
Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer
Originally posted by: rdubbz420
drug companies will not like this...

Why? They can just as easily be suppliers

why buy a $100 pill when you can grow in your basement free?

Same with tobacco I guess, you are legally allowed to grow a certain amount for personal use, but its just easier to pay someone else to do it for you

i don't know since i don't smoke tobacco. but i like to know that the weed i smoke and eat sometimes is grown without pesticides.

Why goto Jiffy Lube when I can do oil changes myself? Why eat out/order in when I can cook for myself whenever I want? Why get the landscapers to cut my grass when I can get my own lawnmower and do it? Why buy beer when you can brew your own?

There are lots of things Joe Average American can do for himself and yet pays others to do.

it creates jobs...

 
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
I dont smoke weed, but so many people scam the system with pretend symptoms just to get stoned - its ridiculous. I wonder what percentage of people have actual medical needs and what percent are scammers. And how long it will be before the Mexican drug cartels start cashing in. 🙁

Real weed doesn't come from Mexico....
 
Originally posted by: rdubbz420

you missed the point. if you are on chemotherapy and need to take 3 $100 pills a day to keep your food down. why continue to pay drug companies $300 a day when any dummy can grown a plant in their basement. changing your own oil saves about $20 every 3 months. growing your own could save thousands of dollars a month.

Except it's not just "growing a plant in the basement". True you don't have to carefully cultivate weed as you would tobacco or most other plants, though it does improve the quality. But you do need, fertilizers, grow lights, and the power to run those lights. Grow lights can cost a pretty penny and the electric bill to run them is no small thing either. You still need to pay enough attention to water regularly and check up on the plants. It is an expenditure of effort that many sick people probably wouldn't want to put up with in their state.

I'm not saying that it's not possible; obviously it is. I'm just saying that most people won't grow their own because it's simply easier to go to the store and pay $20-40 for a final product.

I dont smoke weed, but so many people scam the system with pretend symptoms just to get stoned - its ridiculous. I wonder what percentage of people have actual medical needs and what percent are scammers. And how long it will be before the Mexican drug cartels start cashing in.

Legalize it and remove the black market element. Then the cartels can't capitalize on the trade at all.
 
Originally posted by: lxskllr
Originally posted by: rdubbz420
drug companies will not like this...

A lot of people won't like it. There's a shit load of money wrapped up in the retarded status quo.

Yeppers. I think this is why it has remains illegal for this long. Let's list the folks making good money off pot being illegal:

1) Growers
2) Traffickers
3) Sellers
4) Cops
5) Border/customs
6) Prison operators (public/private)
7) Politicians
8) ...
 
One more step in the right direction. The mexican cartels have been cashing in for many years. Almost all of the illegal large-scale grows across the state of CA are conducted by mexican cartels or california-based mexican gangs like the mexican mafia. Large-scale MJ growing is a huge source of revenue for them.
 
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