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gorobei

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Long Kiss Goodnight and Salt are very, very good. How have they not nailed it?
the female spy(rus) typically runs as a honey trap in real life. while they can and do kill, it isnt part of the core functions. a realistic take would look at what they are willing to do for the job vs the lack of reward and motivations to continue. indoctrination is a huge part but i think only The Americans (2013) tv series ever did much on that.

most of the attempts devolve into making the lead into a juggernaut with regrets. LKG isnt exactly in the same branch as the rus/soviet versions, but it is stronger as it has a more focused plot and stakes. Salt as a deep cover operative setup was too focused on action sequences and danced around trying hold off revealing who her true self was.

there are obviously a ton of directions to take the plot, but if you are going to do NOC then you generally want to avoid devolving into female james bond. bond movies constantly have him ignore any attempt to maintain a cover identity or worse gives his real name so they can have a tag line. no spy does this other than hollywood versions.

just swapping the gender of the spy but having them do the same stuff as the men leaves a ton of potential character development depth on the table.
 

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Gun Crazy - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0042530/reference/

1950 B&W .. uh .. "crime" film, from a script by Dalton Trumbo.

IMDb has it as a "film noir" but it's absolutely not.

While the film is posed as the story of a young kid who is "gun crazy, he just loves guns", a sharp shot, but who does not like to harm others, it's really the story of co-protagonist Peggy Cummings:
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who works as an attraction in a carnival, shooting targets - but who is more than happy to casually kill anyone who happens to be killable.
As both are gun-crazy, they join up in a loooooong Bonnie & Clyde escapade, stealing and killing to their heart's content. Very slowly the male protagonist comes 'round to not being so happy about the girl killing with such abandon, until finally he kills her, as they are being surrounded by police - the consequence of their actions.

Peggy is a joy for the eye, a gorgeous woman with an angelic voice, and you can bet in the 50s there would have been a strong sexual element to this film which has now disappeared.
The core of the film is the couple's escapade stealing from people, fooling simpletons by just pretending to be other people (a'la Catch Me If You Can), and laughing at the system because it's just so easy to get away with murder, all you need to do is .. murder.

There are far too many crime scenes in this crime film, up to the point where it almost feels like a condemnation of the American life. The protagonists fool, abuse and humiliate simple workers, policemen, rich people, poor people, anyone who is polite to them, and they show no mercy. The man not killing is supposed to be the theme that results in the conclusion, but it's really just him occasionally whining.
The woman is the actual protagonist - she has more dialogue, she makes all the decisions, she gets shit done, and the man seems almost a victim rather than a companion; which i guess is what they wanted, given then original premise, but the film ain't selling it - rather than to cry for him because he got caught with bad influences, i see the man as someone who got himself into that situation, AND wasn't even good enough to be a good criminal.

I wouldn't recommend this. Too long and poorly paced, and the main plot point - of this strange kid being swept into a life of crime by a crazy woman - isn't delivered in any impactful way.

if you really want to .. 5.5/10 - i'm sure it was better, when it aired 70 years ago.
 

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DigDog

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A Complete Unknown - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11563598/reference/

Biopic of Bob Dylan with Timothy Whatshisname.

.. dunno. Didn't like it. Was i even expecting to like it?

The story covers the initial period of time between Dylan's arrival in NYC and his first foray into the folk scene, to the Newport Concert "disaster".

Dylan arrives in town to meet a dying Woodie Guthrie and through a friend gets invited into the folk scene; in these years even famous people would perform in a normal club, sometimes with no stage, no security, just a singer and a guitar - getting into their circle of friends was not difficult, you'd show up and say hello.

Dylan starts singing and he's got some nice tunes, poetic n' shit. He starts to do well and is eventually picked up by, i believe, Columbia.
He also meets Joan Baez (who by the way is still alive and singing) and .. well, not much of importance happens. I'll be honest, there really is not much need to spend that much runtime on the girlfriend who was jealous of him singing with Baez. It was something that was not in the news, it was not a scandal, it's really not of great importance.

And unfortunately the vast majority of the film is about a lot of nothing. Yeah sure they show Chalamet singing, but, you know, i don't particularly care for Chalamet singing. I mean, he's not BAD, but he's no Dylan. And .. i know those songs already.

See, like everyone, i too went through a Dylan phase. Dylan is a talented, musical poet, and the aggressively negative way he phrases his lyrics, that is an extraordinary and unique style; it's the same for Johnny Cash - it's about that deadpan voice, and the absurd lyrics. I think the perfect comparison would be if you did a biopic of someone like Elvis, Pavarotti or Sinatra - you *really* need those unique voices, if you haven't got them, you can't replicate the same results.

Eventually the film progresses to where Dylan starts playing electric rock & roll, at the Newport FOLK Festival, and everyone gets pissed off at what essentially is a class traitor.

And this is also something that is suspiciously lacking from this film; see ... Robert Zimmerman, is not really a nice person. He's a Charmin, Unique, Naturally Talented artist. And this film tries mighty hard to dodge this issue and portrays Dylan as someone who just got bored with the studio he was working with, and wanted to go further. They even lie blatantly and imply that Suze Rotolo, his gf, was the one that pushed him to move further, when instead it was purely a business decision - folk was coming to an end, and Dylan was making too much money to stay on a sinking ship. Dylan didn't do squat for rock, he just realized that he could make moar mony (and frankly, his rock albums leave a lot to be desired).

My impressions is that A Complete Unknown doesn't have a story to tell - it just wants to give you a simplified version of what you'd read on Wikipedia, but in visual format. It doesn't try to comment on the artist, or the music, or even the scene, it just says "well this show happened, let's show it how it happened" but in now way attempts to make a judgement or comment on what is the meaning, the importance behind it.

I wouldn't recommend it. If you like Dylan, or you haven't had your "Dylan period" yet, just get yourself Another Side Of Bob Dylan, and listen to that instead. Maybe throw in a couple of singles. Unfortunately, the reality is that Dylan was a very much overrated artist - sure, unique, and did do some good work at a time, but cannot compare to a real life giant like Freddie Mercury.


my vote: 6/10 ? but .. not sure who the target audience is.
 

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Final Destination Bloodlines - 7/10 - it's more of the same but has some really cool scenes and some annoying characters with some bad acting. The overuse of CGI in this movie was kind of annoying, and the CGI was pretty awful for the most part.
 
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gorobei

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Logan the Wolf
fan movie about wolverine in the past. mostly notable for fight choreography and camerawork to match the action. ~10 min long. extreme graphic violence.
probably a bunch of stuntpeople who got fed up watching weak fights with too many snap cuts to hide the flaws.
 
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GodisanAtheist

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Alien: Romulus 5/10

I think the best way to describe this movie is a high production value fan fic. It scores a 5/10 purely because the movie knows what it is and leans in fully, and made for some alright popcorn entertainment on the flight back from Japan. Really outside the confines of an ANA econoclass seat there is basically no need for this movie to exist.

The main actress and the android both did an excellent job for what it's worth, everyone else was basically straight to home video but competent performances.

The whole movie is just one long series of fan service scenes strung together to a sort of semi-coherent plot. Whole scenes of the movie more or less lifted from prior alien films. You already know everything that happens if you're even tangentially knowledgeable in Aliens lore.

The most novel thing about the movie was it's initial depiction of the corporate hell being a worker on a company terraforming opp is, and how the whole venture is basically a catastrophic failure that is used to bridge the Prometheus film with the mainline Aliens franchise.

Honestly I think the Alien franchise in it's current state is artistically dead. There is nothing to be done with the Xenomorph at this time, the awe and terror from Alien and the awesome factor Aliens is gone.
 

GodisanAtheist

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Furiosa 6/10

Another ANA special, finally got around to watching Furiosa on the seat back.

It's... Ok? There is something good in there, I really enjoyed the world building and lore, but the whole thing feels to waif-ish, loosely built, and disconnected to really go beyond good to great.

If you're trying to tell a saga in 2 hours, every minute of screen time has to be purposeful and feed into the core of the narrative, but Furiosa feels like a lot of wasted time and "room to breathe" when there really didn't need to be. Uneven narrative progression, voiceovers and montages where actual movie should be, etc.

The whole creepy child-rape subplot sort of goes nowhere and then suddenly Furiosa is working as a Praetorian for Immortan Joe who clearly takes strong interest in non-mutated healthy women was bizzare, like all the characters suddenly forgot that Furiosa is an attractive woman and their own motivations all of a sudden because the plot demanded it.

Also the lack of a proper balls to the wall battle scene between Immortan and Dementus' armies was a huge missed opportunity. The voice over suggests it was a 40 day war and was EPIC but then shown us God damn it!

The movie does do some things really well. Virtually any scenes with car battles are a stunt coordinator's wet dream, over the top high speed action on wheels is really the heart of the Mad Max franchise, so thank God those scenes were still great.

ATJ and Helmsworth were both solid in their roles, I enjoyed seeing Helmsworth play a villain and he clearly had fun doing it as well.

The lore element is also fun, with the interplay between the various warlords and their fortresses, the roving bandits, and the pure miserable hell of existence for the average (quite mortan) joe.

It's solid escapism (if you want to escape to a world that is somehow more horrifying than ours) but it feels like so much less than what it could have been.
 

stargazr

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Last Exit to Brooklyn 6.5/10

Seedy film based on a 1964 novel that was banned in the UK. Set in Brooklyn in the early 50's, it paints a dark picture of the hopelessness for the main characters in a world of poverty, sex and drugs. Several stories wrap around the central theme about a union office in the midst of a six month strike against a manufacturer in a lower class Brooklyn neighborhood.

The union official (Stephen Lang) is a closet homosexual. He is mean to his wife, and gets involved with a transvestite. A prostitute (Jennifer Jason Leigh) lures soldiers to have sex, only to have a local gang of young men beat them up and steal their money. A father (Burt Young) deals with his daughter getting pregnant out of wedlock.

There are no happy endings or heroes here. No one finds love or happiness. No characters to like or root for. The film seems more like a snapshot of this dark little neighborhood, dealing with what were taboo subjects at the time the novel was written rather than having a message.
 
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A soldier said her tits were "The best in the West"
Don't know and don't care since breasts are almost like DNA. No two are the same. But personally, I think "fused" breasts are rare, where there is almost no space between the two and they sort of merge together in the middle.
 

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Don't know and don't care since breasts are almost like DNA. No two are the same. But personally, I think "fused" breasts are rare, where there is almost no space between the two and they sort of merge together in the middle.
You must be new to physics.
 

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Good watch if you're an Edge of Tomorrow fan:
I am glad they did not end the movie with everyone dying. Or a mind fuck that would get argued and interpreted endlessly. They wrapped it up nicely and left it to your imagination how he explains what happened to Rita, and if they end up together.
 
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Furiosa 6/10

It's solid escapism (if you want to escape to a world that is somehow more horrifying than ours) but it feels like so much less than what it could have been.
Without the titular character it was doomed to be mid. Give us Mad Max or don't bother.

The Accountant 2 6.5/10

Too long of a wind up, too short of a climax. Shifted the tone in a direction that did not appeal to me as much as the 1st. I did enjoy the Batman and the Punisher team up though.
 
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Minecraft 5/10

Family movie with a generic formula. I probably have less than 5 hours in the game, so no hook for me there. I probably should have skipped this one all together, I knew going in I was not the audience for it.

Super Mario Bros Movie 6/10

More generic family movie tropes with a video game property as the vehicle. Should have skipped this one too.

Jaws 10/10

Saw this in theaters as a kid. While the jump scares and ominous atmosphere are lost on me; having seen it multiple times over the decades, the characters and pacing are as great as ever.
 

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Napoleon Dynamite

First time I saw it my rating would be 5/10 Second time I watch it 7/10 on third viewing 9/10.

Similar experience with Water World

First viewing 5/10 second viewing decades later 7/10 third viewing 8/10

Raising Arizona 10/10 If you have not seen it, it is your loss.
 

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Without the titular character it was doomed to be mid. Give us Mad Max or don't bother.

The Accountant 2 6.5/10

Too long of a wind up, too short of a climax. Shifted the tone in a direction that did not appeal to me as much as the 1st. I did enjoy the Batman and the Punisher team up though.

-TBF it does have Max Rockatansky and the Interceptor for precisely one 10 second scene...
 
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DigDog

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I did enjoy the Batman
where is the damn downvote button. how dare you ! ben affleck is not batman - he never was batman, he cannot be.

Several actors have portrayed Batman over the years, including:
  1. Lewis Wilson (1943)
  2. Robert Lowery (1949)
  3. Adam West (1966)
  4. Michael Keaton (1989, 1992, 2023)
  5. Val Kilmer (1995)
  6. George Clooney (1997)
  7. Christian Bale (2005-2012)
  8. Ben Affleck (2016-2023)
  9. Robert Pattinson (2022)
  10. Kevin Conroy (voice in animated series and films)
This list includes both live-action and voice portrayals.

see? his name is not even on the list !
 
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Ben Ass-F is certainly the bulkiest one I've seen wearing the suit. I can only see him working as a criminal mastermind. There's just something about his face that does not lend itself to him being a good guy.