don't worry there are a lot of angsty L4D players who are still crying that they didn't get another expansion/map pack before L4D2 is coming out.
Oh and they often tell other people what they should like and how to spend their money, fun stuff.
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
I bought the original L4D on the steam 1/2 price sale, and it has given me hours and hours of entertainment. I'm not sure why people think they are entitled to more than what they originally purchased, or care about the time line of when a sequel is released.
Honestly you sound like the exact type of rage-quitting kid that I hope cant afford L4D2 anyway.
Elcs
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I'd be tempted if it was a decent price. I never considered L4D1 because well quite frankly I get motion sickness with FPSes these days and Zombies are perhaps my strongest yet stupidest fear.
It looked a little naff on the graphics side of things but looked rather decent and tactical otherwise. Though, I hate games where Id have to crack out my microphone... sort of kills the enjoyment for me.
It looked a little naff on the graphics side of things but looked rather decent and tactical otherwise. Though, I hate games where Id have to crack out my microphone... sort of kills the enjoyment for me.
zerocool84
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Because some of us expected more than what it came with. It barely came with any content and even the new content didn't add much. This new game is only 5 new campains, a couple new weapons, 3 new infected, and one new multiplayer mode. Yea that doesn't sound like a whole lot of content that warrants a new game to me.
ICXRa
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For the record I don't have a problem with Valve releasing L4D2.
I paid full price for this at release (retail) mainly because I had a Circuit City GC and was worried if I didn't use it I would lose it. Anyway I read the reviews and previews and there was a lot of indication from Valve that a good deal of DLC was coming for this game. Judging from my past experience with Valve I had no doubt they would make good on this claim. They still may but it doesn't seem to have happened to the extent they let on it would, at least yet.
WaitingForNehalem
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Are they ever going to stop using the Source engine? It looked amazing in 2004 but it really is showing its age.
Zenoth
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If you're down to doing personal attacks I think you've got a problem. I "sound like a rage-quitting kid" because of what exactly? Because I won't buy L4D2? So now in our society we're down to be rage-quitting kids because we make choices for ourselves? That because we don't agree with some random Joe Blow with 10K+ posts of a discussion forum makes it a bad thing?
Do yourself a favor and at least save your own precious time by not making any more references to me, and possibly to not post on this thread anymore. Seriously, kid, what the fuck is your problem?
while I actually agree with you, you certainly are coming across as enraged, which I find funny as it makes him most likely correct in his assessment of you...
Zenoth
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It's tough, but I'll try. I'll let him suck his thumb since he now believes he's right on all fronts due to my reply, he's very happy that I replied to his provocation, now he points and quotes me and it makes it look like he's more right than I was, the "wait until he replies and then point at him" tactic is getting a little old, but coming from people like him, ain't very surprising.
Anyway, point being done, L4D2 isn't interesting, rage quitting or not.
But thanks for the heads up, I'll ignore him completely from now on.
Stay on topic and cool your jets, Oakenfold PCG & Security Mod
People think they are "entitled" to more than what the originally purchased because that's what they were promised by the people they purchased from.
If Valve say "We're going to do extra content for this game", and then don't and instead say "We're making a sequel for this game", people get pissed.
It's not a sense of entitlement to expect to get what you were promised.
And yes, there are quotes, and no, I can't be bothered to find them, since this comes up in every L4D/L4D2 discussion and if you've any idea about the whole thing you would know already.
Actually, thats exactly what a sense of entitlement is.
Valve are like the parents that gave too much, promised too much, cared too much. Now the children are whining that theyre not getting what they used to getting. When in reality, they never got much.
TF2 got what, a map or two? A few achievements, a weapon or two? That cant be where the sense of entitlement came from...
What *new* content did the orange box have...a few multiplayer maps for TF2, a 2 hour long game, and a 3 hour long expansion pack for a 4 year old game. Isnt actually as massive as it seems when you write it down, since so much of what was included was old....
So where is the entitlement coming from? They promised some free stuff, you got some free stuff, you might get a little more.
But you want a new game with this much content, you'll have to pay for it. Not even WoW, with a monthly fee, offers this much new content every year.
That being said, L4D2 looks more awesome every time I see it. I'm so glad I'm getting the opportunity to buy a ton more L4D rather than having to subsist on a meager charity handout of content.
Red Storm
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Originally posted by: BD2003
Actually, thats exactly what a sense of entitlement is.
Valve are like the parents that gave too much, promised too much, cared too much. Now the children are whining that theyre not getting what they used to getting. When in reality, they never got much.
TF2 got what, a map or two? A few achievements, a weapon or two? That cant be where the sense of entitlement came from...
What *new* content did the orange box have...a few multiplayer maps for TF2, a 2 hour long game, and a 3 hour long expansion pack for a 4 year old game. Isnt actually as massive as it seems when you write it down, since so much of what was included was old....
So where is the entitlement coming from? They promised some free stuff, you got some free stuff, you might get a little more.
But you want a new game with this much content, you'll have to pay for it. Not even WoW, with a monthly fee, offers this much new content every year.
That being said, L4D2 looks more awesome every time I see it. I'm so glad I'm getting the opportunity to buy a ton more L4D rather than having to subsist on a meager charity handout of content.
Sorry, but you obviously must not own TF2 if you boiled everything down to "a map/weapon or two."
I'm very happy the TF2 team is separate from the L4D team. You can enjoy paying for big updates. I'll take em free.
And here is the article about Valve promising post-release content ala TF2 for L4D which really convinced a lot of people to purchase the game with a long term goal in mind. I quote:
"So each time we've released one of those for Team Fortress 2 we've seen about a 20% increase in the number of people who are playing online. And that number is really important because it determines how many community created maps there are, how many servers are running, and so on. So we'll do the same thing with Left 4 Dead where we'll have the initial release and then we'll release more movies, more characters, more weapons, unlockables, achievements, because that's the way you continue to grow a community over time."
They lied, plain and simple.
Originally posted by: BD2003
Actually, thats exactly what a sense of entitlement is.
Valve are like the parents that gave too much, promised too much, cared too much. Now the children are whining that theyre not getting what they used to getting. When in reality, they never got much.
TF2 got what, a map or two? A few achievements, a weapon or two? That cant be where the sense of entitlement came from...
What *new* content did the orange box have...a few multiplayer maps for TF2, a 2 hour long game, and a 3 hour long expansion pack for a 4 year old game. Isnt actually as massive as it seems when you write it down, since so much of what was included was old....
So where is the entitlement coming from? They promised some free stuff, you got some free stuff, you might get a little more.
But you want a new game with this much content, you'll have to pay for it. Not even WoW, with a monthly fee, offers this much new content every year.
That being said, L4D2 looks more awesome every time I see it. I'm so glad I'm getting the opportunity to buy a ton more L4D rather than having to subsist on a meager charity handout of content.
You talk about how awesome L4D is, but that is exactly part of the potential problem here. Most of us are already happy with what we have, and we only need a few things here and there to make this game just about perfect. Instead of giving us those few things, Valve is overhauling the game and potentially splitting the community. L4D is the kind of game that has a guaranteed run of a few years under its own power (especially with community support and user made content), yet Valve is going to undercut it with a sequel so soon.
What most L4D1 players are pissed off about is that they feel Valve could have been throwing the community a few bones here and there to make L4D1 even better, however they have instead been working on a sequel that seems to promise everything L4D1 was supposed to deliver (and then some), and then charge the same amount for it... It doesn't matter how good a deal L4D1 actually was, its the fact that we know it could have been better that rubs people the wrong way.
Its like watching a star athlete half ass their performance and still dominate. Sure, they're certainly within their right to do so, but that doesn't mean they won't come across as taunting/flaunting assholes.
And the worst part is that if Valve didn't give L4D1 110%, why should they start with L4D2? Especially when they flat out admited with news of L4D2 that they plan to make several sequels that take place in different locations around the world with different sets of 4 survivors...
I'm going to leave with saying I absolutely love L4D1, and I know I'll end up getting L4D2, but that doesn't mean I will be completely thrilled with whats going on if some of my more foreboding suspicions come true. I still have my fingers crossed that Valve has a master plan to it all that can somehow bring together and keep together the series and community. Making the two games inter-compatible and offering L4D1 along with L4D2 as a package (or with deep discount) and vice versa would be all it would take really.
to me its perfectly fine that they are putting out a sequel..they can do whatever the hell they want as far as im concerned, but i wont be buying it because i dont think it updates the game enough to warrant a new game
Maximilian
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ViviTheMage
Lifer
I am more curious to see what valve does about this...since there seems to be a rather large uproar about them releasing it so soon.
I don't mind an expansion, if it was 20 bucks or so.
I don't mind an expansion, if it was 20 bucks or so.
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