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New Goldfinger album... OPEN YOUR EYES.... awesome :)

yeah, great album, I'm listening to Reel Big Fish - Cheer Up (advance copy, gotta love IRC) right now.................all this a day after the Incubus concert. Music is good. 🙂
 
is the new rbf stuff good? dunno, i've kind of fallen out of love with them 🙁

january, febuarary, march, april, may, june through december i wish you would stay... i know you're leaving me.... 😀
 
its an decent album not as good as their previous ones, plus since charlie left the band, they lost some Coolness factor, some of their edge and other intangibles. Even though i love goldfiner, they are also big sellouts and are mostly in the scene for the money, not the fans and the music.

 
Originally posted by: alee25
its an decent album not as good as their previous ones, plus since charlie left the band, they lost some Coolness factor, some of their edge and other intangibles. Even though i love goldfiner, they are also big sellouts and are mostly in the scene for the money, not the fans and the music.
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i don't know enough about them to disagree wtih you, but why do you say that? i would think they would be on the radio if they were really in it for the money.
 
heh here is some lines from their first single "open your eyes"

Destroy all the land
And kill what you can
Just to make the profits rise
Sell you from birth
For all that you're worth
The money spreads like lies

anyways, goldfinger rocks! i don't care if they are "sellouts" 😛
 
i like it, my favorites are spokesman and january

the sound is a bit different than their earlier albums. my favorites were goldfinger (i think thats what the album was called) and stomping ground. they came by my town a few weeks ago, but i was too sick to see them, and i wish i had been there.
 
Originally posted by: alee25
its an decent album not as good as their previous ones, plus since charlie left the band, they lost some Coolness factor, some of their edge and other intangibles. Even though i love goldfiner, they are also big sellouts and are mostly in the scene for the money, not the fans and the music.
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wow, it's getting so trendy to call bands sellouts.

pretty sad 🙂
 
Originally posted by: mrCide
Originally posted by: alee25
its an decent album not as good as their previous ones, plus since charlie left the band, they lost some Coolness factor, some of their edge and other intangibles. Even though i love goldfiner, they are also big sellouts and are mostly in the scene for the money, not the fans and the music.
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wow, it's getting so trendy to call bands sellouts.

pretty sad 🙂
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that's what i was thinking...i've never heard goldfinger on the radio..what song did they get on there? and even if they are on the radio, obviously it's not like they are huuuuge.
 
ok #1 just because they are not on the radio doesnt mean that they aren't sellouts. It could be a few factors that they are not on the radio: could be that they are not popular enough (which to some extent is true: at the Live 105's BFD concert (a giant concert) goldfigner is playing at it but isn't on the mainstage and in the ads they are not even mentioned as one of the bands on the small stages). Dont get me wrong, Goldfinger is my favorite band, but seriously its just as much a trend to call bands sellouts than it is for BANDS TO SELLOUT THEMSELVES... If bands didn't sellout, then we wouldn't be calling them sellouts. The fact is that: because they are charging upwards of $25-30 for their shows and selling shirts for an outrageous $20, and their cds are going for about $20 now, compared to other well known bands: Midtown, the Getup Kids and others are selling cds for about 10-15, shirts for about 12, and tickets for 10-15, they are becoming more and more sellouts. Now i have no objection with them wanting to make a profit, and I am actually all for them doing shows and stuff for a living, but the fact of the matter is that they are a more concerned with acquiring the money, than catering the fans and the music. you can interpret "sellout" to have any connotation, negative or positive, but it is just a term used to describe a band that "sold out" to the money aspect of music.
 
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i would think they would be on the radio if they were really in it for the money.
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which they are...so where are you going with that.
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i have not heard them on the radio... they might be played on some college stations or whatever, but i don't think they get any significant air time on major stations.
 
ok #1 just because they are not on the radio doesnt mean that they aren't sellouts. It could be a few factors that they are not on the radio: could be that they are not popular enough (which to some extent is true: at the Live 105's BFD concert (a giant concert) goldfigner is playing at it but isn't on the mainstage and in the ads they are not even mentioned as one of the bands on the small stages).

you don't have to be popular... just gotta pay the independant promoters. mainstream bands are mainstream because they paid to get on the radio, not the other way around.

Dont get me wrong, Goldfinger is my favorite band, but seriously its just as much a trend to call bands sellouts than it is for BANDS TO SELLOUT THEMSELVES... If bands didn't sellout, then we wouldn't be calling them sellouts.

oh come now... that effectively rules out the possibility that people are wrong. majority rules does not imply that something is true or false.

The fact is that: because they are charging upwards of $25-30 for their shows and selling shirts for an outrageous $20, and their cds are going for about $20 now, compared to other well known bands: Midtown, the Getup Kids and others are selling cds for about 10-15, shirts for about 12, and tickets for 10-15, they are becoming more and more sellouts.

goldfinger shirts and cds are 15 (check their website and cdnow), which i find to be reasonable. i paid about 20 bucks each for two goldfinger shows, one goldfinger-bloodhound gang and one goldfinger-reel big fish. considering that these are two major acts, i don't find that unreasonable either.

Now i have no objection with them wanting to make a profit, and I am actually all for them doing shows and stuff for a living, but the fact of the matter is that they are a more concerned with acquiring the money, than catering the fans and the music. you can interpret "sellout" to have any connotation, negative or positive, but it is just a term used to describe a band that "sold out" to the money aspect of music.

i would disagree, it is far from a "fact" that they are more concerned with acquiring money or whatever.
 
ok Live 105 in San francisco a big radio station in SF, often played goldfinger's 99 Red ballons. Plus "here in your bedroom" was actually a big radio song when it was released. Even though they aren't played as much as Blink182 for instance, my point was that: a band doesn't need to be played on the radio to be considered a "sellout." You guys gotta understand what the word sellout actually means... it does not mean being played on the radio.
 
Originally posted by: alee25
ok Live 105 in San francisco a big radio station in SF, often played goldfinger's 99 Red ballons. Plus "here in your bedroom" was actually a big radio song when it was released. Even though they aren't played as much as Blink182 for instance, my point was that: a band doesn't need to be played on the radio to be considered a "sellout." You guys gotta understand what the word sellout actually means... it does not mean being played on the radio.
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i know what "sellout" means, all i'm saying is that it seems doubtful to me that a band would be in it just for the money if they aren't doing that payola thing to get on the radio.
 
ok lets go at it again: mabye some bands pay their way to get on the radio but most bands get on the radio because they become trendy and is what the listening audience wants to hear. Ok you mentioned the shirts being 15, ok about those shirts that are 15, those are the ugly shirts taht no one wants, so therefore they have to sell them at a cheaper price. But look at the black goldfinger skullkie, the popular one - $20, its not made any different from the rest of them, except that it doesnt look like crap. Ok about the cd costing 18, i admit that i was wrong (although the foot in mouth was being sold for $20 at their show when it was first released, but they must have lowered it on their website), but abotu the goldfinger and reel big fish concert, that was not $20, that was $28 and i rememeber that when i bought the ticket off the interent, it came to a total of $35 with the fees and stuff, so it was defntly not 20. Not sure about the bloodhound gang one, but not the reel big fish tour. But again if we go back to the other bands, midtown for example (i was wrong on their prices), they are selling the cd off their label for 12 shipped! and you can pick it up at the warehouse for 11.00 w/o tax. Plus i remember that the last midtown show i went to with dashboard confessional (2 big bands for that matter) it was 20 total off tickets.com so subtracting the fees it must have been around 14 dollars. Either way you look at it, goldfinger charges more for their stuff.

about that majority rules part: i was just commenting on how that person up there said: its becoming trendy for people to call bands "sellouts." Its not a matter of being trendy, its a matter of what the public sees the band doing, thats all. If we didn't see the band charging alot for their stuff and shows, we wouldn't call them sellouts.
 
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