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New GeForce GTX 260 to Feature 216 Shaders - Beats Radeon 4870
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nitromullet
Diamond Member
Cool. I was interested in the same sort of comparisons, but I wasn't quite as ambitious as you. My thread on the comparisons I did between GTX 280 and 4870 X2 in case you missed it: http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=31&threadid=2220889
splicer707
Member
Noobness here.
So a current factory overclocked GTX260 is about as fast as the new GTX260 (without overclocking)?
I wonder how long before these new GTX260 will start to appear in Australia. 😀
So a current factory overclocked GTX260 is about as fast as the new GTX260 (without overclocking)?
I wonder how long before these new GTX260 will start to appear in Australia. 😀
SolMiester
Diamond Member
OMG, I laughed when I read this....sounds like a spoilt child to me, complaining that the neighbor has a toy better than yours.....Anyway, what has NV got to do with US Law, the US is NOT the world police.....
myocardia
Diamond Member
Checkbox features, obviously. That's all that seems to be talked about in this forum lately-- DX10.1 & PhysX.
Could someone ban this guy? I thought everyone knew that logic wasn't allowed in the AT video forum.:laugh: Great post, BTW. I agreed with every word of it, and that's fairly rare for me.
SolMiester
Diamond Member
With you on that!....:thumbsup:
CreasianDevaili
Member
If the new 260gtx does better than i am all for it. It just pushed ATI to also push higher next time as well. Coming from a HD4870 Crossfire user, I am utterly happy with my setup yes, but I dont wish Nvidia harm. I want them around as do I for ATI.
I do however see alot of subjective opinions. Some seem to think thatbecause it is optimal for them it is the same for everyone. Some dont oc, never will, and dont care about it. They feel that if it was meant to be at that clock then it should come that way. A factor for some, not one for others, and is subjective and not a CORE feature due to it being highly regulated by the bin of your card and your own knowledge.
DX10.1 and CUDA are also the same. Someone might have went with the HD4870 for starcraft 2 and diablo 3. They dont plan to upgrade for a very long time. Good for them you know? They bought the card for the games that they want to play, and made a good decision. Should their optimal setup for them be torn down and called inferior because they dont care how games they never plan to play perform? No. If someone REALLY wants to play the new Total War game coming out and use physx/cuda, they they should get the t200 series.
My games? mmorpgs and diablo 3. My setup will tear those up. So i am happy. The 260gtx is a step in the right direction as it isnt just a higher binned and factory oc'ed card with a few non critical changes and a new naming scheme. If they actually improve the internal parts of the card that matter then I see nothing wrong with nvidia doing it the right way.
Relatively, the 4870 and 260, even with this change, should be better or worse for select users still. Neither is top dog. Why it warrants all this hostility I am not sure. If this was the 280gtx/4870x2 then i could see the sheer competition..
But no matter what these cards are all just second best, as to the hd4870 and 260gtx, compared to their higher tiered counterparts. I figured this segment would be much more relaxed!
I personally have little loyalty to a certain make of cards. I will go with good performance on either side. When i hit nehalem i will have to make the decision to go SLI or crossfire again. Who knows. I might go with ati again or go back to nvidia. Maybe i will even go with AMD's Shanghai.
All i know is that this 260gtx will help in the push for better parts when i upgrade again. So it is a win situation for me. I am happy as a smurf right now with my crossfire setup, I am happy that competition now is going to make it better for ALL OF US later, and I just benefit all around.
I do however see alot of subjective opinions. Some seem to think thatbecause it is optimal for them it is the same for everyone. Some dont oc, never will, and dont care about it. They feel that if it was meant to be at that clock then it should come that way. A factor for some, not one for others, and is subjective and not a CORE feature due to it being highly regulated by the bin of your card and your own knowledge.
DX10.1 and CUDA are also the same. Someone might have went with the HD4870 for starcraft 2 and diablo 3. They dont plan to upgrade for a very long time. Good for them you know? They bought the card for the games that they want to play, and made a good decision. Should their optimal setup for them be torn down and called inferior because they dont care how games they never plan to play perform? No. If someone REALLY wants to play the new Total War game coming out and use physx/cuda, they they should get the t200 series.
My games? mmorpgs and diablo 3. My setup will tear those up. So i am happy. The 260gtx is a step in the right direction as it isnt just a higher binned and factory oc'ed card with a few non critical changes and a new naming scheme. If they actually improve the internal parts of the card that matter then I see nothing wrong with nvidia doing it the right way.
Relatively, the 4870 and 260, even with this change, should be better or worse for select users still. Neither is top dog. Why it warrants all this hostility I am not sure. If this was the 280gtx/4870x2 then i could see the sheer competition..
But no matter what these cards are all just second best, as to the hd4870 and 260gtx, compared to their higher tiered counterparts. I figured this segment would be much more relaxed!
I personally have little loyalty to a certain make of cards. I will go with good performance on either side. When i hit nehalem i will have to make the decision to go SLI or crossfire again. Who knows. I might go with ati again or go back to nvidia. Maybe i will even go with AMD's Shanghai.
All i know is that this 260gtx will help in the push for better parts when i upgrade again. So it is a win situation for me. I am happy as a smurf right now with my crossfire setup, I am happy that competition now is going to make it better for ALL OF US later, and I just benefit all around.
SolMiester
Diamond Member
Oops, failure there, why was I under the impression NVidia was in Taiwan?
RussianSensation
Elite Member
Thanks myocardia! :beer:
apoppin
Lifer
i don't understand; my 4870 gets 810/1150 with the stock cooler; my room's ambient temps are the same as yours 79-82F and i have the cooler set higher for my OC. My *opinion* - from what i read - is that the GT260 has more headroom for O/C'ing than the 4870.
i am trying to point out that the 4850 is not out of headroom - compared to its STOCK clock .. they 4870 is .. at 810/1150 i am pretty much at the limit of my card and i usually back it down to 790/1100. My 4870x2 has even less headroom as it is hot at 800/1000.
otoh, the GT260 seems to have a lot more room to OC than the 4870 - look at the OC'd models out compared with the mild OCs of the Radeon. It stand to reason the + will be faster still - at least equal to the OC'd clocks of the current 260. Something to convincingly beat the 1GB 4870 [even the OC'd versions] and still not quite threaten the GTX280.
- at least that is how i see Nvidia's positioning of it new 260.
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i actually have to be ambitious; i am reviewing for a new tech site . . . and i did see your thread , thank-you. It appears to me the 280 might be more "solid" in Crysis than the X2 and i am going to explore Micro stutter with a friend - so we will have a review together, i think. i was not at all happy with my 4870 and Crysis at 19x12; not smooth; the x2 is solid in comparison.
Don't you think you CPU's core speed is holding you back? Mine at 3.33Ghz is not fast enough for my X2; i am getting only slightly better FPS - but often times with far more filtering applied than with the single 4870
i am hoping to simulate GT260+ performance - but i guess i need to wait for a later version of RivaTuner that will allow me to disable TMUs with Tesla. I know i will be able to get "close" by underclocking my GTX280.
i guess you decided to keep the GTX280 overclocked instead of your 4870x2
that says something
imaheadcase
Diamond Member
Ok to recap for you guys.
Its not just the shaders increase. The clocks are also increasing because of die shrink.
Its not just the shaders increase. The clocks are also increasing because of die shrink.
shangshang
Senior member
Dammmmmm... niceeeee! Somebody is going to be looking to pawn his 4850 on Ebay!
splicer707
Member
So, wow. These new video cards are due by the end of September?! 😀
Hauk
Platinum Member
Didn't expect to see many surprised by this move. It's the logical course of action, enable what's already there in order to beat the competition. The sometimes questionable margin 260 had over 4870 will certainly widen with a shader/clock increase. This battle doesn't interest me however. What'll be interesting is if it's big brother will feature a shader increase.
Entertainment value, priceless. :thumbsup:
Entertainment value, priceless. :thumbsup:
dug777
Lifer
Just out of interest, do any of the physX titles thus realeased or planned to be released counter his point? Do you need a nVidia card to actually play the game in any different way, or does it just make cool peripheral stuff happen without affecting the actual mechanics of the gameplay, the guts of it.
I think that would be best most effective way to address his comment.
Otherwise he's right. If two people can play the same game, in the same way, with an ATI and nVidia card respectively, and the only difference is the nVidia player gets to see some fancy physX rendered extra content, then you're not actually missing out on the gameplay.
I'm assuming that the games do counter his point, and personally I'm interested too 🙂
imaheadcase
Diamond Member
How did you check when its not out yet? 😛
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