New FX-8120 Benchmarks @4Ghz w\Radeon 6950\6970

[Vesku]

It's not the comparison to the 2500K and 2600K that has me concerned. If it's basically a phenom II x7 or x8 that is what has me concerned. It needs to have an IPC improvement of at least 10% over Phenom II to be a good intro to the new uArch.

 

[MisterMac]

It's not the comparison to the 2500K and 2600K that has me concerned. If it's basically a phenom II x7 or x8 that is what has me concerned. It needs to have an IPC improvement of at least 10% over Phenom II to be a good intro to the new uArch.

Exactly - and when a Thuban II x6 beats it in threaded workloads.... something is utterly wrong.

If intel wasn't so scared of BD and released 2500k/2600k so cheap, i personally just wouldn't feel right investing 500 700 800 or 900 USD for a high quality chip.

I love the fact i can get near top performance + lots of oc headroom for 220 usd.

That... ain't gonna happen with ivy now -_-

 

[Olikan]

I'll be disappointed if so - this is an FX, should be treated equal to SB-E.
Despite price differences.

price is everything! Or do you want to compare an atom to a power7?

anyway, the SB-E will go against the 10 core kodomo, if it appers

 

[lau808]

komodo got cancelled, next gen bd os vishera and 8 core max. dont remember where i read it, but google vishera amd...

 

[MisterMac]

price is everything! Or do you want to compare an atom to a power7?

anyway, the SB-E will go against the 10 core kodomo, if it appers

True, in a sense of consumer.
Bad in a sense of general standpoints for company serving a product.


To have a place for our highest quality product on the market, we must price i @ our competitors lowest quality product.

It's just... ghey in every sense and a major fail.



For monoply sake, we simply couldn't afford this big a fail.

 

[Vesku]

SB-E is a luxury workstation, enthusiast part. SB K is mainstream enthusiast. AMD has had no competitive part for the SB K series, the Phenom II x6 being more of an AMD upgrade path than a competitor. Being able to compete in mainstream enthusiast after such a long stall is not a big fail.

Now if BD doesn't break past Phenom II x6 then the fail is starting to eat cheesecake.

 

[Don Karnage]

That... ain't gonna happen with ivy now -_-

Yes it will. Ivy will be priced just as SB is. Intel released Sandy Bridge with no competition from amd and still made the highest price chip 320 dollars. Mainstream chips don't get priced high. Thats what SB-E is for.

 

[Olikan]

True, in a sense of consumer.
Bad in a sense of general standpoints for company serving a product.

just to remember we are consumers 😛

but if you are thinking about the future of tecnology and stuff, i kindy agree with you...
but, let's see... k6, core, rv770...in the past 10 years, is all that i remember of a brand new arquitecture that just kicked asses (yes, gpus too)

if bulldozer is competitive like those leaks, they should be at "ok" status

 

[SickBeast]

just to remember we are consumers 😛
if bulldozer is competitive like those leaks, they should be at "ok" status

I agree with you. I was thinking that Bulldozer was going to be a disaster for AMD, but the reality appears to be that it will be fine. Not good, not great, but fine. It actually competes with with Intel has to offer, albeit close to a year after Intel released Sandy Bridge.

That said, it puts AMD on equal footing with Intel at this point in terms of CPU technology. AFAIK SB is built on a more advanced process than BD is. Not only that, but Intel is saying that Ivy Bridge will bring a 10% boost, and AMD is saying that Pile Driver will bring a 10% boost as well.

It's looking like we will have a competitive atmosphere in the CPU realm once again, which is great. :thumbsup::thumbsup:

 

[Vesku]

Sounds like 4.8-5GHz on air before heading into challenging voltages. If he's using his listed Linspire Eclipse II that's quite a hefty cooler.

"Here is teh deal guys, if you don't have the BIOS F5 or later, you need to have it to run BD. I was told to tell you guys YOU HAVE TO UPDATE your BIOS to F5 to use BD. At least on the UD5 or UD7.

BTW i can report that BD OCes very nicley, for a teaser: 4.5ghz@1.3v stable or 4.83ghz@1.39v stable

I am finishing up some max OC/voltage scaling now for my OC guide, it should be up shortly, but not today./"

http://www.overclock.net/amd-motherboards/1023100-official-gigabyte-ga-990fxa-series-owners-143.html

 

[soccerballtux]

I agree with you. I was thinking that Bulldozer was going to be a disaster for AMD, but the reality appears to be that it will be fine. Not good, not great, but fine. It actually competes with with Intel has to offer, albeit close to a year after Intel released Sandy Bridge.

That said, it puts AMD on equal footing with Intel at this point in terms of CPU technology. AFAIK SB is built on a more advanced process than BD is. Not only that, but Intel is saying that Ivy Bridge will bring a 10% boost, and AMD is saying that Pile Driver will bring a 10% boost as well.

It's looking like we will have a competitive atmosphere in the CPU realm once again, which is great. :thumbsup::thumbsup:

But it looks like all the performance improvements are coming from faster L3 cache and ghz. So, a fail for those of us already overclocking.

 

[Olikan]

That said, it puts AMD on equal footing with Intel at this point in terms of CPU technology. AFAIK SB is built on a more advanced process than BD is. Not only that, but Intel is saying that Ivy Bridge will bring a 10% boost, and AMD is saying that Pile Driver will bring a 10% boost as well.

intel goes for gate first, while global goes for gate last...all that i know is that gate last is actually better...intel is just better because of a more mature process....

well, actually i'm not sure about that XD

But it looks like all the performance improvements are coming from faster L3 cache and ghz. So, a fail for those of us already overclocking.

now you can go for...MOAR OVECLOCK!

 

[RussianSensation]

More FX-8150 results are leaking out, I don't know the legitimacy of these, however multi-threaded looks better, single threaded is still terrible (look at the Cinebench 10 single threaded score - lower than an 1100T). And again this is the 8150, which starts @ 3.6 and turbo's 4 cores up to 4.2 if I remember correctly?

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?275859-AMD-FX-Some-benchmarks

Now, those results are MUCH better than what we have seen in the last couple of days. FX-8150 @ 4.8+ ghz looks like a beast of a CPU for multi-threaded work such as rendering, encoding, etc. Ideally it would have been preferable to have far faster single-threaded performance with improved multi-threaded performance. However, if FX-8120 is $220 and can overclock to 4.8ghz, it looks like it will offer better multi-threaded performance than an overclocked 2500k but worse in single threaded. It will also save a person $100 vs. 2600k. Once overclocked, BD seriously pulls away from all CPUs in those benchmarks and esp. X6 1100T. It's starting to look a lot better than I have expected. I am looking forward to benches in the next 24 hours. :thumbsup:

 

[SickBeast]

intel goes for gate first, while global goes for gate last...all that i know is that gate last is actually better...intel is just better because of a more mature process....

well, actually i'm not sure about that XD

Yeah that was my mistake; both BD and SB use the 32nm process. Intel has typically been a full node ahead of AMD for quite some time now.

 

[NostaSeronx]

intel goes for gate first, while global goes for gate last...all that i know is that gate last is actually better...intel is just better because of a more mature process....

well, actually i'm not sure about that XD

Gatelast is 28nm/22nm

GloFo AMD FX = Intel SB-E

the SB-Normal series are using Intel's Bulk process for 32nm

 

[Arkaign]

I agree with you. I was thinking that Bulldozer was going to be a disaster for AMD, but the reality appears to be that it will be fine. Not good, not great, but fine. It actually competes with with Intel has to offer, albeit close to a year after Intel released Sandy Bridge.

That said, it puts AMD on equal footing with Intel at this point in terms of CPU technology. AFAIK SB is built on a more advanced process than BD is. Not only that, but Intel is saying that Ivy Bridge will bring a 10% boost, and AMD is saying that Pile Driver will bring a 10% boost as well.

It's looking like we will have a competitive atmosphere in the CPU realm once again, which is great. :thumbsup::thumbsup:

Ehhhhhh. no. 🙁

Official reviews on BD show it to something between a disappointment and an utter disaster.