New Core Parking Confusion

[Virgorising]

I don't seen any of the other settings in my power config except for System Cooling Policy which I don't think has to do with Core Parking.

Well, here is what I just did using my Core Parking app which is configurable in this element, and, cause I couldn't get it done in Power Options in
Windows......not sure why I chose 72%......it just seemed good, tho I could move it to 100%.

Edit: just looked in Resource Mgr, and 4 cores are parked again. I think I am being a WUS and should just move it up to 100 in the app.
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New edit: moved it up to 91% and 4 cores remain parked as per Resource Mgr. My new take is I can not tweak this element, and I must leave core parking on or disable it. This....is no way as configurable as I thought 15 mins ago.

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

When you use that app set it to DISABLE.. I think it refers to enabling or disabling core parking.. when it's set to Disable it sets the percentage to 100% meaning 100% of all cores/packages are unparked..

 

[Virgorising]

When you use that app set it to DISABLE.. I think it refers to enabling or disabling core parking.. when it's set to Disable it sets the percentage to 100% meaning 100% of all cores/packages are unparked..

OK, Mini May Day. I did set it AND THE OTHER ONE TO disable! But no matter, now 4 cores show up parked in Resource Monitor.

That I am laughing, but like a lunatic (NOT IN ANY NORMAL HAPPY WAY), is no reflection I am not taking this seriously. Quite the opposite.

I think Windows 7 is ANGRY I messed with it in this regard, invested more in Intel..... and is drawing a line in the sand.

Just cause I can usually find the irony/funny, does not mean I am liking this.

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

I noticed some odd stuff when using that app. I would just make a backup of the entire power config profile via registry and then start reading the keys you want to change. I did but it would take a while to make the post.. but the best thing to do is edit the settings via registry it'self. I will make a post of it sometime soon. I'll probably have to start with making a .txt file then copy n paste it to a post.

 

[Virgorising]

I noticed some odd stuff when using that app. I would just make a backup of the entire power config profile via registry and then start reading the keys you want to change. I did but it would take a while to make the post.. but the best thing to do is edit the settings via registry it'self. I will make a post of it sometime soon. I'll probably have to start with making a .txt file then copy n paste it to a post.

Yes! "....some odd stuff" :'(

Instructions to disable core parking real deal in the registry are on the net in many places. Right now, I am slightly defeated, think I should chill a bit.

My plan was to test the system more with both core parking enabled and disabled, something I was able to try until I no longer could, cause MS seems to have won.....at least in the short term.

Please, not to worry, or rush to share what you now may be moved to for a sticky thread re this STICKY-defining THING!!!!

I am now leetle worried, cause someone here said it can happen in W7....my cores might be stuck in park.

But even if they are, I am sure I can get them unstuck in the registry. Not as if some expoxy got unleashed, after all.:sneaky: Or, I would need a whole new transmission.:sneaky:

Could also be Murphy's Law. Know who invented that? MICROSOFT.

Many thanks for yr time and yr help!!!!

 

[Virgorising]

Well.......just found this. Not sure I exercised "extreme caution.":\

The parking is not controlled by the CPU affinity setting of your process, it is done automatically by the Windows CPU Scheduler. Adjustments to your CPU affinity can perhaps force utilization of certain cores, but then Windows will just park different cores. The parking is turned on or off dynamically, very quickly, in accordance with system load. It is actually surprisingly aggressive by default (maybe too much so on some platforms). You can watch it in the Resource Monitor, as you saw.
Setting your own CPU affinity is something you should do with extreme caution. You must consider HyperThreaded cores, or in the case of AMD Bulldozer, paired cores that share computational units (their HyperThreading without being HyperThreading ;p). You don't want to end up 'stuck' on a Hyper-Threaded core that offers a mere fraction of the performance of a real core. The CPU scheduler is aware of such things, so usually the affinity is best left to it -- unless you know what you're doing, and have checked that system's CPU.
However, you can enable/disable or tweak CPU Parking very easily, without rebooting. I wrote a HOW-TO, complete with a simple GUI, here: How to Enable/Disable or Tweak CPU Parking Without a Reboot, and without Registry Edits
It also includes more information about CPU Parking, and how to tweak it using PowerCfg.exe. You can actually make the option show up in the standard Advanced Power Profile settings in Windows, but it takes some tweaking I won't get into here.
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And all this person above does, is link us to one of the apps I already Have! The one I was certain was configurable.

THING IS....after I discovered this miserable core parking thingy, I tested and even during video conversion, the same 4 cores remained parked.

Just WAIT, next day they come to clean the street I live on, and no parking is allowed, but my cores remain parked......MS will be VERY, VERY SORRY!!!:sneaky:
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[Virgorising]

One more: just found this NON DESTRUCTIVE, REVERSIBLE way in the registry (well, he SAYS):

http://forum.cakewalk.com/Windows-7-amp-Core-Parking-a-better-way-to-Turn-It-OFF-m1861804.aspx

 

[Virgorising]

Hi for a change.

K, here is what I just did to demess (new word) this situation: after trying to use both apps over and over and not being able to disable core parking, I just booted into my backup drive, (am writing from it now).

I right off tried to use the more configurable app and disabled core parking.... and it WORKED.:sneaky:

So, despite I will loose a coupla things from since I last cloned, forget this drive still has Firefox along with my now go to Pale Moon, I will now clone this, my backup drive, to the drive I usually boot into. THEN, I will at least feel less nauseated.()

This is a fine example of why I do internal backup as I do it.:sneaky:

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

Have you rebooted all these times after changing settings?

 

[Virgorising]

Have you rebooted all these times after changing settings?

While I love how authentically caring you are, I also hate you are upset. Cause you don deserve to be, AND now, that I put THINGS RIGHT, THERE IS NO NEED. I mean it.

Yes, I rebooted ongoing.

Clearly, something in Windows in the drive I was doing all this in, got seriously messed up at some point, and I could not turn parking off using either app.

But, again, booting into my backup drive, seeing, U bet, the more complex app worked perfectly there, being able to use it normally to turn off core parking, then, doing the reverse clone....bringing things up to date, I am now just fine again, and core parking is turned off. Pls see below!!!! See how totally unparked they are?:biggrin:

I never had a HDD fail. But, my internal backup strategy has, as it just did again, saved my butt many times!!!

Heartfelt thanks for your kindness.:wub:

 

[Virgorising]

Sorry to make new post, but I want this to be clear with visuals. I am now positive the problem was in the simpler app, UnparkCPU, cause guess what? I just ran it---you can see in Resource Monitor they are all unparked, and IT, UnparkCPU, SAYS THEY ARE ALL PARKED! Which, they are SOOOO NOT.

I then ran the better, more complex app I used to unpark them, and it reflects the reality: all unparked!

I now think everyone should step awaaaay from UnparkCPU! Using it messed up Windows! I will now uninstall it.

IMPORTANT ADDENDA!!!! After getting rid of the bad app, I ran CCleaner's conservative reg cleaner, and OMG, it produced a TON---a whole page--- OF ACTIVE X entries, ALL OF WHICH were associated with the app!!!!

I deleted all of them. Again, stay AWAY from that app, guys!!

 

[LOL_Wut_Axel]

Just leave it as-is. The time it takes for Windows to tell the CPU to unpark the core is probably less than 0.1 seconds.

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

I ran CCleaner's conservative reg cleaner, and OMG, it produced a TON---a whole page--- OF ACTIVE X entries, ALL OF WHICH were associated with the app!!!!

I deleted all of them. Again, stay AWAY from that app, guys!!

Can you reproduce that error with the steps you thought caused the problem? I'm wondering cause I also ran that app and was curious

 

[Virgorising]

Just leave it as-is. The time it takes for Windows to tell the CPU to unpark the core is probably less than 0.1 seconds.

As I explained, with visuals, after seeing the more complex app worked normally in my backup drive, then my going thru what I realized I had to to clean up the mess (reverse clone), my cores are all unparked now, in both drives. Yes, I will leave them unparked to see, over days, any difference in performance, thermals, etc.

I get ignorance is never bliss, but I was a way happier little human before I found out about core parking.

JUS SAYIN.:\

 

[Virgorising]

Can you reproduce that error with the steps you thought caused the problem? I'm wondering cause I also ran that app and was curious

O sure. But, U mean before or after I stick needles under my toe nails?:sneaky:

I get you are an uber, official techie, and a most generous one... but, while I guess I could boot into my backup drive and try to replicate what I did re the two apps (the small one is now gone from this drive I mostly boot into), then, when Windows gets messed up, do all I realized I had to and did in reverse to fix things: clone my main drive onto what would then be my newly messed up backup drive.

In fact, I would totally do that the minute someone sends me an Ferrari F-40. :sneaky:

Absolutely! I am totally up for this for the sake of research!!!!! (NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!:'()

 

[aigomorla]

Virgor the errors on active X can be the result of permissions...

The program is not allowed to execute active X aps, and is failing.


Either way.. i will not tell you to disable your permissions because that is saving u from picking up a malware virus on one end.


however you are doing some testing on very dangerous areas.
(dangerous as in DATA being wrong... not dangerous as in you can get hurt)

When doing OS tweaking / Testing, we always do it in a controlled windows enviorment.
Meaning fresh install, brand new OS.
this rules the possibility of ADDON's interfering, and causing problems with tweak testing.
Some programs may not like the fact your cpu goes in C1E, or may produce funny results when overclocked / downclocked / C1E'd.

When testing features on cpu like you are, we do that on a controlled machine.
A Machine which is displaying cpu temps / core temp / voltages on your rail (hwmonitor / multi meter) and a killa-watt at the wall to see if load reductions are present.

the method your going by is the visual method (feels faster / responsive) with an unrecorded number test.. (FPS)
At best you can see load temps... but not full load values, so you have no real clue if u got a net improvement, cuz the temp reduction could of been changes in your room temp, or a nice breeze going though your room.

I am not telling you to stop because your doing it all wrong..
I am actually applauding you for getting technical in trying to figure things out.
But i am also warning you, that u will run into a lot of errors, because the path your on, was a path most reviewers like me have treaded and we saw a very deep end.
But this is a path everyone must take and learn... you learn more from errors, then successes... a good tester/reviewer is one who knows many failures so he knows what never to repeat again when he is facing the public.

 

[Virgorising]

Virgor the errors on active X can be the result of permissions...

The program is not allowed to execute active X aps, and is failing.


Either way.. i will not tell you to disable your permissions because that is saving u from picking up a ransomware virus on one end.

OMG!!!!!! Clearly, it failed, but beyond that, I had no clue at all. Forget, how long it took me to GET it had failed AND MESSED things up. the last thing I expected to see in the reg scan, was anything activeX-related, forget a whole field of millions.....each and every one associated with this little app.

(The collective knowledge in this community is OFF THE CHAIN.)

I have Admin permission set across the board. Is that what U mean?

 

[aigomorla]

OMG!!!!!! Clearly, it failed, but beyond that, I had no clue at all. Forget, how long it took me to GET it had failed AND MESSED things up. the last thing I expected to see in the reg scan, was anything activeX-related, forget a whole field of millions.....each and every one associated with this little app.

(The collective knowledge in this community is OFF THE CHAIN.)

I have Admin permission set across the board. Is that what U mean?

no u need to set active X permissions manually so software is allowed to run it.
If you ran as administrator, that might have worked.
(or seeing how your reg is infected... the CCleaner u got was a malware and not a real?)

However seeing how you may have other programs installed, it could be another program which is interferring with it.
There is too many possibilities to go though when trying to debug OS with ADDON's. :\

hence why these tests should be done on a fresh install with minimum software addons.

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You begin to see where things go wrong when u do a fresh install, and then start reinstalling the software after tweak test.
Then you slap your head and ask, WHY?!?!?!? and spend another 2 hours on another project figuring out why... lol...
By the time your done.. you realize, it was something trival, or u give up because there is no answer, and then you end up gaming/daily activies again, until a new project comes up

 

[Virgorising]

no u need to set active X permissions manually so software is allowed to run it.
If you ran as administrator, that might have worked.
(or seeing how your reg is infected... the CCleaner u got was a malware and not a real?)

However seeing how you may have other programs installed, it could be another program which is interferring with it.
There is too many possibilities to go though when trying to debug OS with ADDON's. :\

hence why these tests should be done on a fresh install with minimum software addons.

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You begin to see where things go wrong when u do a fresh install, and then start reinstalling the software after tweak test.
Then you slap your head and ask, WHY?!?!?!? and spend another 2 hours on another project figuring out why... lol...
By the time your done.. you realize, it was something trival, or u give up because there is no answer, and then you end up gaming/daily activies again, until a new project comes up

Where U get yr patience, I do not know re clean installs. But, I am also not used to things going wrong. Main reason, early on, I determined to learn as much as I could every minute on my own, was to earn autonomy in the arena. And, I am happy to say, I never give up. No sleeping, no eating until I figure out what to do and how to put things right.

Again, I get now more than ever, I have had very, very few issues. Well, compared to some poor humans who post here.

But, being able to find a fix don mean I understand what went wrong in the first place.

The app which got corrupted and messed things up worked normally until it no longer did! It is possible, did strike me, the issue was I was trying to use it and the other one at the same timer. But that's just a lame guess.

Re false positives in CCleaner, I chose to run it, rather than any of my three other reg cleaning apps:sneaky:, because it is conservative and reliable. So my take is no, all those entries were not false positives. Esp, given, nothing was negatively impacted after I deleted them.

 

[aigomorla]

Again, I get now more than ever, I have had very, very few issues. Well, compared to some poor humans who post here.

lol...

i am a box of fail...
i will admit it that i have failed on a lot of experiments in the past.

Once i get rooted in something my friends give up now, and just say go ahead, you learn after you cause fallout then simulation.

But my friends also say, since i do fallout recovery all the time, if a fallout should occur i am the first person they will come to.

 

[Virgorising]

lol...

i am a box of fail...
i will admit it that i have failed on a lot of experiments in the past.

Once i get rooted in something my friends give up now, and just say go ahead, you learn after you cause fallout then simulation.

But my friends also say, since i do fallout recovery all the time, if a fallout should occur i am the first person they will come to.

Nobody can name one genius human in history who moved things along significantly, who was NOT "a box of fail"!!!!!

It's a JOURNEY, and, there are no straight lines in nature.

I too get "rooted"......and, I think it is one of my greatest blessings! And yours!!!

And, despite compared to you and many others here, I know far less and have less experience, in my personal world I am the go to human when my friends' systems inevitably get messed up.

How anyone can use this technology every hour and not be moved to learn about it.....I will never understand.

Last nite when I went to put the garbage on the service landing where the porter picks it up, I saw empty cartons/boxes from not one, but TWO PEOPLE, living on my floor, for new ipad air tablets.

They have all the newest toys, upgrades the day they are launched, and they know.....NOTHING.

You stay the laser focused risk taking adventurer U R!!!!!
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Late edit: just found this on Huffington.....see it all but esp #5!!!! There truly is synchronicity in the Universe; it's humbling and thrilling.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/...k-advice_n_4058438.html?utm_hp_ref=own&ir=OWN

 

[Lepton87]

Better not read about quantum physics because you will either die of starvation or your head will explode

 

[Virgorising]

Better not read about quantum physics because you will either die of starvation or your head will explode

Thing is, tho, the true geniuses in that science and others, were and are not simply the usual, garden variety analytical humans within the orthodoxy; the real geniuses, including in medicine, were and continue to be the INTUITIVE GENIUSES.

As I once posted here, fact is, he said it himself, Einstein first differentially intuited the Universe.....the formulaic stuff, the math, the formal physics, came AFTER.

There are infinite clinicians, actually, pseudo pundits in every arena---with formidable academic chops in the minutae, who can not make a differential diagnosis to save themselves, forget, make any real, original contributions.

So, rest easy......nobody with eyes by Marcel Proust is in danger of their head exploding. i.e., the late Steve Jobs, who, as I have posted on this site, during that infamous visit to Xerox, immediately GOT, what all the "pundits" at Xerox did not.
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Edit: In a rush, but just came upon below:

Einstein entered college at the Zurich Polytechnic in 1896. He shied away from the abstractions of pure mathematics in favor of physics courses, where his powerful intuition and visual thinking were more useful. He was an abysmal performer at the laboratory bench, and meanwhile agitated for his teacher, Heinrich Weber, to include the most recent scientific theories in the curriculum—Maxwell's theory of electromagnetism, for example.
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One more (I posed to be working, but this is a pivotal subject):

What is genius? Einstein said it best.​

“The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant.
We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.”

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K, ONE MORE (pretty sure, lol):

Innovation resides in the infinite space between my grasp of what is and my reach for what can only be imagined. When my grasp of reality destroys my capacity to dream and to create then mastery destroys genius, progress is damned, and innovation disappears.

​

Fostering the Genius: At the Core of Business and Technology

can change your life forever.​

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[Virgorising]

Hi for a change.....

What I am now dying to know, is, anyone here turn core parking off in Windows 7 and then change their mind and turn it back on?

And, if so, why????

Thanks!

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

I mainly stick to testing things within the power config in the registry.