New build problems, pls help

[lavagirl669]

Building the system with specs listed below.

Just received the Mobo and CPU from NewEgg yesterday.

Installed the LanParty 875ProB Mobo (New-out of the box) with P4 2.80C
with Thermalright SP-94 Heat sink as instructed and all other components
first in the case then out of the case on the Mobo box.

Hooked up PSU and 12V connector and CPU fan 3pin connector too as well as
main power to Mobo.

Hooked up everything else (all components less than a month old - Vid card, Sound card, etc)

Turn on the power switch on back first from 0 to -- (I get a flash of light and fan turn when I
do this-is this normal?)

Hit the power switch - everything seems to be running, case fans, CPU fan, Led's and optical
drives, and then I get a LONG loud single beep that lasts about 5 seconds and I shut down
power using back swith (-- to 0) immediately.
Tried again and same thing it Long beeps for about 5 seconds and then pauses and then Long
beeps again and I shut down.

I tried resetting the CPU chip and Heatsink& Fan as well as putting the stock heatsink and fan
on there that came with the P4 instead of the new Thermalright- same symptoms.
I reseated the Vid card and Mem sticks and also tried bare min boot (CPU, 1 stick of Ram, and Vid card
nothing else) SAME symptoms - LONG Beep that says to me something is WRONG!

I took Mobo out of case and hooked it up on cardboard- Same thing! and
there was nothing under the MOBO in the case that could have caused it to
not ground properly.

Also, nothing is coming on the screen because it doesn't get a chance to, I shut it down when I hear that
LONG beep.
This is not the normal beep at boot, this is definitely an ERROR beep!

Please help.

What could be going wrong??

 

[will889]

"Flash" you spoke of is concerning. I would try another power supply and video card.

 

[captains]

cant remember what kind of beep it was making but make sure you have the cpu fan plugged in to the right spot on mobo....i first plugged in cpu fan to a reg fan plug and it beeped at me

 

[SilverBack]

Uh reseat your memory.
Also you didn't mention plugging in the P4 4 prong connector power cable, if you did I missed it.

 

[will889]

Originally posted by: SilverBack
Also you didn't mention plugging in the P4 4 prong connector power cable, if you did I missed it.

Good call. I definitely would look at that-

 

[jhurst]

The recurring long beeps are an indication that the system can not initialize the RAM. Its not finding it. Looks like you either got defective RAM.....or not compatible with your system. Sorry lavagirl :brokenheart:

 

[jhurst]

Originally posted by: Hoot

Originally posted by: SilverBack
Also you didn't mention plugging in the P4 4 prong connector power cable, if you did I missed it.

Good call. I definitely would look at that-

The system would still POST even without that connector plugged in...I know b/c I hooked up an old 250W PSU to my system when I blew up my Antec (have since then replaced it with an Enermax 460), but the system ran fine w/o the 4-pin power connector.

 

[will889]

Not always true. The Shuttle AN35N will not post without it plugged in (might post but won't run good at all - big problems). Many Intel boards won't either. It is mainboard dependant. Meaning, it simply depends on the board itself. There are some boards that will, some that won't. AFAIK the ram sticks that are listed are perfectly compatible with the DFI mainboard listed - however - yes, they "might" be bad sticks. I would try one stick of ram only, and swaps PSU's and then, and or at the same time a cheaper known working video card, then iso the problem form there. I would memtest 86 each stick of ram too (independantly). You could go to PC perspective (amdmb) and post or PM Angry_Games (DFI Rep), or RGONE (DFI rep) about the ram. Also if you want to know directly if the ram is compatible you can post at the House of Help forums where RamGuy hangs out (official Corsair Rep)

http://forums.pcper.com/forumdisplay.php?f=66

http://www.houseofhelp.com/v2/

 

[jhurst]

Do you have some other DDR laying around that you could check in your system? Perhaps a buddy or something can let you borrow a stick. I thought CorsairXMS would be compatible with virtually everything, but perhaps not. Or maybe you got defective sticks. RAM is very very touchy. My mom dropped a piece of RAM on the ground once, wiped it off, looked fine, plugged it in......LONG BEEPS!!

 

[will889]

Originally posted by: jhurst
Do you have some other DDR laying around that you could check in your system?

Good idea-

 

[jhurst]

Originally posted by: jhurst

Originally posted by: Hoot

Originally posted by: SilverBack
Also you didn't mention plugging in the P4 4 prong connector power cable, if you did I missed it.

Good call. I definitely would look at that-

The system would still POST even without that connector plugged in...I know b/c I hooked up an old 250W PSU to my system when I blew up my Antec (have since then replaced it with an Enermax 460), but the system ran fine w/o the 4-pin power connector.

The Abit IC7 will run without it being plugged in. I assume her Asus would too

 

[will889]

Some will run. like yours, but then won't overclock reliably with PSU rails on spec.

 

[jhurst]

I just needed it to run for a couple of days until my Enermax came in. It did overclock mildly, but the rails were everywhere under load. (The +12V would start out at 12.34-12.42 and then under load drop to 11.72-11.78) Enermax is rock solid LOL my +12V is FIXED on 12.04....its like locked on that number all the time

 

[will889]

Enermax power supplies are very good nice and steady.

 

[lavagirl669]

Thanks for all the tips guys...I will try those.

I do have another stick of Ram I can try and a 300w PSU.

So it doesn't sound like a CPU problem?

I did check DFI compatibility with those Ram sticks and they are compatible. If they are
"bad" sticks will NewEgg RMA them? They better....dam they were expensive $275!

That flash thing worries me too....and ALL connections were checked and YES I did plug in
the 4pin 12V connector....mentioned that above.

Any other ideas?? I would be eternally grateful....how about a trip to Hawaii??

Back to headache land....I mean trouble shoot land.....

Lavagirl

 

[lavagirl669]

any other ideas guys?

this is getting frustrating...

 

[SilverBack]

I've seen this before so try it.
Unhook all the ide cables and the floppy if you have one. Take out all cards except the videocard.

What this does is isolate the ram , cpu , and vid card. Try and boot then.
I've seen where an IDE cable not pinned right has caused problems as well as a floppy.
If it still doesn't boot one of those 3 components is bad.

BTW the PCI slot next to the video card shares an IRQ with the AGP slot. This can and has caused IRQ conflicts with many a mobo.

 

[lavagirl669]

Hey Silver

I did try that, but will try it again.

Did it in and out of the case.

I think I'll do the above suggestions out of the case....better right?

thanks....

 

[SilverBack]

It shouldn't hurt outside.
Good luck

 

[lavagirl669]

thanks Silver

Keep the fingers crossed cause I'm going in.....

 

[lavagirl669]

p.s. Silver?

If I do discover one of those 3 components is bad, is there any way to tell which it is?

CPU is new and out of the box and was installed correctly
Ram is new
and Vid card is only about a month old.

I have alternates for all of them to swap with that are lower quality, but good for
test purposes.

How can I tell which?

 

[farscape]

What Bios ver do you have?

AMI:
1 beep - DRAM refresh failure
2 beeps - Parity error - memory
3 beeps - base 64k - memory
4 beeps - system timer
5 beeps - processor error
6 beeps - Keyboard controller Gate A20 failure
7 beeps - processor or board
8 beeps - vid adapter or vid memory
9 beeps - ROM checksum error
10 beeps - CMOS RAM failure
11 beeps - Cache error - L@ cache NG
1 long, 3 short - memory defective
1 long, 8 short - video card

Award:
1 long, 2 short - vid card failure
1 long, 3 short - same
continuous beeps - memory

IBM:
continuous beep - power supply, system board
1 long, 1 short - sys board
1 long, 2 short - vid
1 long 3 short - vid

 

[lavagirl669]

I've got Award Bios with the DFI Mobo.

The beep I'm getting is one Long beep lasting about 5 seconds, 2 second pause, then 5 sec
Long beep again.

In and out of the case same problem

lava

 

[will889]

I would do this. Power down. unplug power. Pull ram, ATX header, Vid card, CMOS battery. Find your cmos jumper. Move to the clear position for about 5 min. Then move jumper back to retain. Pop CMOS battery back in, plug up ATX header, ram (only 1 stic in slot 1), and video card back in (firm). Re-check your HDD connections. Check molex power leads. You 9800 Pro has to be plugged into a live 4 pin molex connetor form the power supply. When you have alot of molex leads hanging down it's easy to accidenally plug it into a 'dead' fan lead that is itself not yet plugged into a live lead. Try another molex lead with your vid card. The power up. As you startup be holding your inset key as yout boot to bypass mem post. Quicky switch to tapping the delete key- you should then ener the bios and set your parameters. This 'type' of cmos clear I call a "hard clear".

*Note: Make sure your CPU fan is plugged into the header on the motherboard called (CPU1), and not a regular fan lead on your motherboard. This will sometimes cause system to shutdown, and or, not even fully boot.

 

[lavagirl669]

Thanks Hoot,

I'm putting everything together outside of the case now and will definitely try your
idea after I get it all together.....

will keep you posted so don't run away! LOL