New BHO attack Ad

[RightIsWrong]

Originally posted by: quest55720

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: quest55720
Kind of funny McCain who has 7 houses understands the average joe more than Obama. This swing in the polls is all about Obama and his party refusing to drill for more oil and pissing off the working class. If Obama really was in touch with the average joe he would be leading the fight to get the off shore bans lifted to try and get the price of gas down. Instead Obama and his elitist tree hugger friends are blocking any new drilling in hopes of getting gas prices to 10 dollars a gallon. That way he can "wean" the evil working class off of oil at the price of bankrupting them.

You mean the same McCain who was against offshore drilling until gas prices rose and it became politically advantageous to be for it? Lifting the ban isn't going to drop prices anytime soon. The whole drilling issue is pure political pandering.

Things change and 4 dollar a gallon gas changes the game. Even a rich person like McCain can see how destructive high gas prices are. It is not just felt at the pump but felt at the grocery store. I do love that you are willing to spout out the pelosi talking points to try and fight drilling. What next you going to say it will take 10 years to get any oil when a 3rd world country like brazil will get ultra deep water oil in less than 3 years.

Did you ever read about any of the studies that show that any drilling would not help with the current gas price inflation or the price of oil for ~7 years?

I love that you are buying into the "quick fix" talking points being presented by the lobbyists of Exxon, Shell, BP, etc without actually realizing that you are being played like a fiddle. Or maybe your Brazil information is from a valid, irrefutable source like Jerome Corsi and World Net Daily or a plethora of oil and gas insider sources?

Obama is correct not to support something that will not help at all right now and will do more damage to the earth when/if it becomes a necessity. Ohh, bad Obama not helping to perpetuate the destruction of the planet...bad, bad Obama. :roll:

 

[ayabe]

Originally posted by: lupi

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: quest55720
Kind of funny McCain who has 7 houses understands the average joe more than Obama. This swing in the polls is all about Obama and his party refusing to drill for more oil and pissing off the working class. If Obama really was in touch with the average joe he would be leading the fight to get the off shore bans lifted to try and get the price of gas down. Instead Obama and his elitist tree hugger friends are blocking any new drilling in hopes of getting gas prices to 10 dollars a gallon. That way he can "wean" the evil working class off of oil at the price of bankrupting them.

You mean the same McCain who was against offshore drilling until gas prices rose and it became politically advantageous to be for it? Lifting the ban isn't going to drop prices anytime soon. The whole drilling issue is pure political pandering.

Yeah, there wasn't any $30 something drop after the executive ban was lifted and the repubs stumping hard for immediate drilling.

Plummeting demand/speculation had nothing to do with it.

Absolutely nothing.

Thanks champ, we can always rely on you for the straight dope.

 

[andy04]

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong

Obama is correct not to support something that will not help at all right now and will do more damage to the earth when/if it becomes a necessity. Ohh, bad Obama not helping to perpetuate the destruction of the planet...bad, bad Obama. :roll:

No matter whether we drill here or not our oil will be drilled somewhere in this earth, just not in US. You green loons are ok with everything as long as in does not happen in US. You guys are so shallow. Everything we use is made in china where energy production does not have any pollution control, but you want to shut down the US factories and thus loose the jobs too and the end result, MORE POLLUTION, Idiots
Do you think not drilling will speedup alternate energy development, NEVER. IF we drill here we can keep our money and fund more researches. US energy needs will grow and when it does it will be drilled out from somewhere on this planet not out of ur green alien a$$. Its better if we are less dependent on foreign oil

 

[StageLeft]

This thread is awesome. I'm glad I could be a part of it.

 

[CycloWizard]

Originally posted by: OrByte
you are right. Instead he is pretending to be the Maverick he used to be back in 2000 when people actually supported him as a candidate.

Now they support him because they have no choice.

The "Original Maverick" :laugh:

Both of them suck. The ads this time around suck even worse. Obama is going to magically create five million new jobs, while McCain is going to go maverick, whatever that means. I can run in 2016, but I'm a little to educated to get anyone's vote.

 

[Vic]

The OP represents the dishonesty of the McCain supporters. And IMO of the McCain campaign in general. McCain promised to run a 'clean' campaign, but broke that promise some time ago with nasty attack ads against Obama. But when Obama fires back with mildly negative ads, the McCainbots freak out. The dishonesty is pathetic. But then again, it was the McCainbots who have been negative all along and who have forced McCain to go negative.
I'm with sully on this issue. Obama should go ugly with the dirt and mud. He's the cleaner candidate.

BTW, David Brooks wrote an excellent article the other day condemning McCain both for switching campaign tactics and for going from maverick to toeing the party line. A good read IMO from the moderate conservative perspective text

 

[andy04]

Originally posted by: Vic
The OP represents the dishonesty of the McCain supporters. And IMO of the McCain campaign in general. McCain promised to run a 'clean' campaign, but broke that promise some time ago with nasty attack ads against Obama. But when Obama fires back with mildly negative ads, the McCainbots freak out. The dishonesty is pathetic. But then again, it was the McCainbot who seem to have forced McCain to go negative.
I'm with sully on this issue. Obama should go ugly with the dirt and mud. He's the cleaner candidate.

BTW, David Brooks wrote an excellent article the other day condemning McCain for both for switching campaign tactics and for going from maverick to toeing the party line. A good read IMO from the moderate conservative perspective text

I really loose it when Obama camp talks about switching. Obama was all for public finance then switched and McCain started playing dirty after he realised how Obama beat Hilary - by playing the race card and palying victim.. I am black, I am minority, I have funny name... boohoohoo all whites are going to bitch slap me... boohoohoo

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: lupi
Anyone else seen this new ad from the one; "when asked how many houses Mccain had he said he didn't know, well he has 7 houses".

I'd rather someone who routinely lives in several different places during the year to forget how many houses he has (particularly if you're married to a moneybags) than someone that forgets how many states there are. Really, we're trying to go this petty now.

Hey genius, the point of the ad isn't a memory test for McCain. McCain is trying to paint Obama as not being like Mr. and Mrs. Average American. If you have so many houses that you can't even remember that probably means you aren't exactly the average American either.

A fail right from the get go. ha.

 

[sammyunltd]

Bold prediction. Cindy McCain will become the First Lady, come November.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: andy04

Originally posted by: Vic
The OP represents the dishonesty of the McCain supporters. And IMO of the McCain campaign in general. McCain promised to run a 'clean' campaign, but broke that promise some time ago with nasty attack ads against Obama. But when Obama fires back with mildly negative ads, the McCainbots freak out. The dishonesty is pathetic. But then again, it was the McCainbot who seem to have forced McCain to go negative.
I'm with sully on this issue. Obama should go ugly with the dirt and mud. He's the cleaner candidate.

BTW, David Brooks wrote an excellent article the other day condemning McCain for both for switching campaign tactics and for going from maverick to toeing the party line. A good read IMO from the moderate conservative perspective text

I really loose it when Obama camp talks about switching. Obama was all for public finance then switched and McCain started playing dirty after he realised how Obama beat Hilary - by playing the race card and palying victim.. I am black, I am minority, I have funny name... boohoohoo all whites are going to bitch slap me... boohoohoo

:roll:

Obama beat Hillary with a positive message and campaign, despite Hillary going negative in a party primary the like of which haven't been seen since Bush in 2000. Victim and race card were never played in the Hillary campaign.

 

[RightIsWrong]

Originally posted by: andy04

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong

Obama is correct not to support something that will not help at all right now and will do more damage to the earth when/if it becomes a necessity. Ohh, bad Obama not helping to perpetuate the destruction of the planet...bad, bad Obama. :roll:

No matter whether we drill here or not our oil will be drilled somewhere in this earth, just not in US. You green loons are ok with everything as long as in does not happen in US. You guys are so shallow. Everything we use is made in china where energy production does not have any pollution control, but you want to shut down the US factories and thus loose the jobs too and the end result, MORE POLLUTION, Idiots
Do you think not drilling will speedup alternate energy development, NEVER. IF we drill here we can keep our money and fund more researches. US energy needs will grow and when it does it will be drilled out from somewhere on this planet not out of ur green alien a$$. Its better if we are less dependent on foreign oil

You have some view there sport. First and foremost, I am not a "green loon". What I am is a realist. The reality and your above views don't seem to mesh however.

I don't think that not drilling will speed up alt energy any faster than drilling more will lower prices. Whether the oil is drilled here or there (wherever there is) is irrelevant to the research for alt energy. The only thing that matters is desperation and money. If companies are forced to pay higher prices they might just find the incentive to accelerate their R&D into alt sources.

If nothing else, they will be forced to raise prices on the consumers to the point where we will demand it and some other company will come up with a viable alternative to reap the rewards and make big oil a footnote in the energy game. Relegated to only supplying the fuel to keep the plants running that have truly become the backbone.

 

[BMW540I6speed]

McCain is married to a millionairess, who got him started on his road to politics with start up money for his first campaign - and contacts!, big money contacts.

That is why McCain doesn't know the internet - he has people "do that for him." Just like he has people keep track of his real estate holdings for him. Or his jets.

Aw shucks, another fake "regular guy" who is hiding his wealth. Sounds like ... GW Bush!

So if one candidate charges that the other is "elite" and "out of touch", and then shows that he is even more "elite" and more "out of touch", Americans are supposed to pretend it doesn't matter?

A 5 million income is not rich, heh. I guess now is the time to drill McCain on the fact that he is still drawing a disability check from the government.

I'll take my designer martini shaken, not stirred...

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: sammyunltd
Bold prediction. Cindy McCain will become the First Lady, come November.

Obama is leaving Michele for Cindy?

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: sammyunltd
Bold prediction. Cindy McCain will become the First Lady, come November.

Obama is leaving Michele for Cindy?

the more shocking announcement is that inauguration day will be moved up by 2 months.

Cindy is way hotter than Michele, though.

 

[Throckmorton]

Can't really blame McCain. Some of his houses are archaeological dig sites.

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: quest55720

Originally posted by: Robor
You mean the same McCain who was against offshore drilling until gas prices rose and it became politically advantageous to be for it? Lifting the ban isn't going to drop prices anytime soon. The whole drilling issue is pure political pandering.

Things change and 4 dollar a gallon gas changes the game. Even a rich person like McCain can see how destructive high gas prices are. It is not just felt at the pump but felt at the grocery store. I do love that you are willing to spout out the pelosi talking points to try and fight drilling. What next you going to say it will take 10 years to get any oil when a 3rd world country like brazil will get ultra deep water oil in less than 3 years.

Show me where I said I support Pelosi. Good luck on that.

Care to provide a link from a respected source saying we'd be getting oil in 3 years? Everything I read says 5-10 and up to 20 to get to full production.

You sure aren't looking hard.

A report from Wall Street research house Sanford C. Bernstein says that California actually could start producing new oil within one year if the moratoria were lifted. The California oil is under shallow water and already has been explored. Drilling platforms have been in place since before the moratorium

Link

From Lawrence Kudlow:

Traders took a look at a feisty and aggressive George Bush and started selling the market well before a single new drop of oil has been lifted. What does this tell us? Well, if Congress moves to seal the deal, oil prices will probably keep on falling. That?s the way traders work. They discount the future. Psychology and expectations can turn on a dime.

Link

Fern

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: lupi
Anyone else seen this new ad from the one; "when asked how many houses Mccain had he said he didn't know, well he has 7 houses".

I'd rather someone who routinely lives in several different places during the year to forget how many houses he has (particularly if you're married to a moneybags) than someone that forgets how many states there are. Really, we're trying to go this petty now.

Hey genius, the point of the ad isn't a memory test for McCain, it was exactly what you inadvertantly posted. McCain is trying to paint Obama as not being like Mr. and Mrs. Average American. If you have so many houses that you can't even remember that probably means you aren't exactly the average American either.
Anyways, Obama has been under steady attack by some pretty dishonest ads. I'm glad he's hitting back.

1. It's funny you keep saying it isn't about memory, then use the word "remember" in your description of the ad.

2. Can anybody confirm that these are McCain's houses?. If they are in one of Cindy's family trusts they are NOT owned by John McCain in any sense of the word. Nor should he have any more knowledge of them than we do. Likely she wouldn't really know either, an estate of that size has professional managers.

Fern

 

[alphatarget1]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: andy04

Originally posted by: Vic
The OP represents the dishonesty of the McCain supporters. And IMO of the McCain campaign in general. McCain promised to run a 'clean' campaign, but broke that promise some time ago with nasty attack ads against Obama. But when Obama fires back with mildly negative ads, the McCainbots freak out. The dishonesty is pathetic. But then again, it was the McCainbot who seem to have forced McCain to go negative.
I'm with sully on this issue. Obama should go ugly with the dirt and mud. He's the cleaner candidate.

BTW, David Brooks wrote an excellent article the other day condemning McCain for both for switching campaign tactics and for going from maverick to toeing the party line. A good read IMO from the moderate conservative perspective text

I really loose it when Obama camp talks about switching. Obama was all for public finance then switched and McCain started playing dirty after he realised how Obama beat Hilary - by playing the race card and palying victim.. I am black, I am minority, I have funny name... boohoohoo all whites are going to bitch slap me... boohoohoo

:roll:

Obama beat Hillary with a positive message and campaign, despite Hillary going negative in a party primary the like of which haven't been seen since Bush in 2000. Victim and race card were never played in the Hillary campaign.

Obama beat Hillary because Democrats are stupid enough to nominate someone with little experience and no track record whose only message was "hope and change". I for one is happy to see McCain running a dirty campaign. Obama is NO BETTER than any other politician, as shown by his behaviors in this campaign. People need to know the true Obama, and that's what McCain's ads are promoting.

A politician from Chicago who associates himself with Wright, Akers, Rezko, etc, would bring hope and change to America? PLEASE.

 

[andy04]

Originally posted by: Throckmorton
Can't really blame McCain. Some of his houses are archaeological dig sites.

Some of Oblahblah's house are in African forests and in Afghanistan


Discrimination on age is as offensive and race

 

[Moonbeam]

"Obama beat Hillary because Democrats are stupid enough to nominate someone with little experience and no track record whose only message was "hope and change". I for one is happy to see McCain running a dirty campaign. A politician from Chicago who associates himself with Wright, Akers, Rezko, etc, would bring hope and change to America? PLEASE."

There is no logic here, only bigotry and meaningless assumptions. Do you like being a bot?

 

[andy04]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
"Obama beat Hillary because Democrats are stupid enough to nominate someone with little experience and no track record whose only message was "hope and change". I for one is happy to see McCain running a dirty campaign. A politician from Chicago who associates himself with Wright, Akers, Rezko, etc, would bring hope and change to America? PLEASE."

There is no logic here, only bigotry and meaningless assumptions. Do you like being a bot?

You BHO supporters are really brainwashed... just like him whenever you are hit with some real facts you start crying... and giving totally irrelevant comments

 

[ayabe]

Originally posted by: andy04

Originally posted by: Throckmorton
Can't really blame McCain. Some of his houses are archaeological dig sites.

Some of Oblahblah's house are in African forests and in Afghanistan


Discrimination on age is as offensive and race

Yes and OBL is staying rent free.

He is also the Grand Pubah of the Black Panthers.

Did you know he went to a madrassa and that his mother slept with a black guy?

That's not change I can believe in.....*creepy smile*

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: andy04

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
"Obama beat Hillary because Democrats are stupid enough to nominate someone with little experience and no track record whose only message was "hope and change". I for one is happy to see McCain running a dirty campaign. A politician from Chicago who associates himself with Wright, Akers, Rezko, etc, would bring hope and change to America? PLEASE."

There is no logic here, only bigotry and meaningless assumptions. Do you like being a bot?

You BHO supporters are really brainwashed... just like him whenever you are hit with some real facts you start crying... and giving totally irrelevant comments

More drivel in the form of your opinion. You post without any content, more meaningless garbage and wasted finger motion. You are probably a teen who hasn't yet learned to the difference between what you ate for dinner and a logically expressed idea.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: alphatarget1

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: andy04

Originally posted by: Vic
The OP represents the dishonesty of the McCain supporters. And IMO of the McCain campaign in general. McCain promised to run a 'clean' campaign, but broke that promise some time ago with nasty attack ads against Obama. But when Obama fires back with mildly negative ads, the McCainbots freak out. The dishonesty is pathetic. But then again, it was the McCainbot who seem to have forced McCain to go negative.
I'm with sully on this issue. Obama should go ugly with the dirt and mud. He's the cleaner candidate.

BTW, David Brooks wrote an excellent article the other day condemning McCain for both for switching campaign tactics and for going from maverick to toeing the party line. A good read IMO from the moderate conservative perspective text

I really loose it when Obama camp talks about switching. Obama was all for public finance then switched and McCain started playing dirty after he realised how Obama beat Hilary - by playing the race card and palying victim.. I am black, I am minority, I have funny name... boohoohoo all whites are going to bitch slap me... boohoohoo

:roll:

Obama beat Hillary with a positive message and campaign, despite Hillary going negative in a party primary the like of which haven't been seen since Bush in 2000. Victim and race card were never played in the Hillary campaign.

Obama beat Hillary because Democrats are stupid enough to nominate someone with little experience and no track record whose only message was "hope and change". I for one is happy to see McCain running a dirty campaign. Obama is NO BETTER than any other politician, as shown by his behaviors in this campaign. People need to know the true Obama, and that's what McCain's ads are promoting.

A politician from Chicago who associates himself with Wright, Akers, Rezko, etc, would bring hope and change to America? PLEASE.

IOW, they chose Obama because he ran a clean campaign. Which, unfortunately, much of the more bitter voters in America are unwilling to accept, being accustomed to negativity.
You should read that article I linked above.

 

[mshan]

This is truly a stupid thread!

Obama throws his base some red meat and Republicans go rabid. :roll: