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apoppin said:
Who is making a strawman argument now?

People DO have issues with AMD Catalyst Radeon drivers for a number of reasons. Just as people have issues with Nvidia GeForce drivers.

i have tested every single set of Catalyst and Geforce WHQL drivers for two and one-half years. Some have more issues that others (recently IQ was compromised in Cat drivers from 10-11 until they were fixed in 11-1 and 11-2). GeForce drivers caused some fans to stop responding and the cards burned up.

Generally, the quality of drivers from AMD and Nvidia is outstanding. Some people do have issues. There are a plethora or minor bug fixes going on continually. The *majority* of people people use these drivers without issue or complaint.
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I couldnt agree with this more. There are millions of people using DX11 AMD cards, thats just 5000 series and up, don't you think that if AMD had crap drivers you would hear much more about it? People do all sorts of weird things with their systems, so you never know.

I mean, I think I still have nVidia drivers installed on my old 5770 rig from my physx experiments that I gave to my brother. He updates every month without a single hiccup.

You are some other people might have a problem, that doesn't make the drivers crap, it just makes them imperfect. Same with nVidia, all my friends have no issue.
 
Well I figured out the cause of the mouse corner lag - it's caused by having a phantom second display device when using the HDMI audio out. So now I get to chose between having mouse corner lag, or no audio. GG.
 
Actually now that I think about it, isn't there a DVI->HDMI adaptor just for ATI cards which allows you to send audio through a DVI cable? With that I could possibly use a splitter cable and avoid the whole issue. Hmm...

edit: actually you don't need a special adapter, the audio goes through DVI port regardless. So I just need a DVI splitter. Will report back tomorrow.
 
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QuantumPion said:
Actually now that I think about it, isn't there a DVI->HDMI adaptor just for ATI cards which allows you to send audio through a DVI cable? With that I could possibly use a splitter cable and avoid the whole issue. Hmm...

edit: actually you don't need a special adapter, the audio goes through DVI port regardless. So I just need a DVI splitter. Will report back tomorrow.
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I don't think that would change anything anyway, DVI and HDMI are the same TDMS signal so it's going to be doing the same thing, and you can't just throw a splitter on there to make it into an audio jack you need a decoder to extract the audio just like how you must have it hooked up now (I assume your HDMI is going to a receiver and your DVI is going to your monitor?).
 
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NoQuarter said:
I don't think that would change anything anyway, DVI and HDMI are the same TDMS signal so it's going to be doing the same thing, and you can't just throw a splitter on there to make it into an audio jack you need a decoder to extract the audio just like how you must have it hooked up now (I assume your HDMI is going to a receiver and your DVI is going to your monitor?).
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I think you misunderstand what is going on here. The problem is with the ATI driver's having two monitor outputs when one of them is an audio receiver and not a real display. The solution is to send the display and the audio from the same output jack using a splitter, instead of using two outputs. That way the ATI driver does not think there are two display devices attached.
 
QuantumPion said:
I think you misunderstand what is going on here. The problem is with the ATI driver's having two monitor outputs when one of them is an audio receiver and not a real display. The solution is to send the display and the audio from the same output jack using a splitter, instead of using two outputs. That way the ATI driver does not think there are two display devices attached.
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I understand the problem, I for some reason thought what you meant by DVI splitter was something to split the DVI interface into video and audio components.
 
I finally got around to swapping the contents of my computer to a full size tower so I can run my 5870's in Crossfire. I installed Cat 11.2 with my 5870's and it would completely lock up my computer everytime CCC began to load.

I booted to safe mode, couldn't uninstall them because the MS installer service can't start in safe mode. I was able to remove all AMD/ATI stuff from the start up though. I rebooted and was able to remove those devil 11.2's. Searched Google for some decent drivers for Crossfire, decided on Cat 10.12. No problems so far, but 11.2 completely hosed my computer, not a good first experience with Crossfire.

*edit - Working ok now after a Windows reinstall.
 
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Little update regarding my woes with 11.2. I have emailed AMD about it, giving them all the information regarding the problem. My system is 100% stable with 11.1a display and CCC.

I have now tested the 11.2 packages' motherboard drivers (northbridge, usb filter and AHCI *which can cause trouble for some*) and the system is NOT 100% stable.

I must be a sucker to even keep testing the water a little considering what it caused the last time... But I would like to find the conflict for my system.

I would just like to say before I get berated for saying 11.2's are giving me troubles, that it could be any number of reasons. You also don't have the same hardware or drivers. Just cause they work for you, don't mean they will for everyone. Anyone whom states driver problems are only due to users... are quite simply wrong.

EDIT! 100% stable with stability tests but not just using Windows, data corruption occuring. It's not down to the 11.2 graphics drivers, or 11.2's CCC. It would seem it's one of the mainboard drivers, going to test AHCI on my next reinstall.

Though, doesn't seem likely, when I tried the hard drives on IDE and AHCI it still happened during my troubleshooting... Going to have to take it slow and test the system over and over.
 
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Does 11.2 offer anything that 11.1a doesn't? I thought that 11.2 was just the WHQL certified version of 11.1a?

Maybe a corrupted install? Or something else got screwed up during the uninstall/install process?

Have you tried rolling back and seen if the system is still stable on them?
 
System seemingly stable with 11.2 catalysts *only* installed. I changed the SATA cables again, system is a lot more responsive since changing...

Perhaps just a run of bad luck. Still testing though, adding everything in, one by one.
 
Bearach said:
System seemingly stable with 11.2 catalysts *only* installed. I changed the SATA cables again, system is a lot more responsive since changing...

Perhaps just a run of bad luck. Still testing though, adding everything in, one by one.
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I was just about to say you should install only the display drivers. I wonder how many problems are caused by the motherboard drivers pakaged with the display drivers instead of the display drivers. I guess only AMD platform user would have problems with that. Let us know how it goes.
 
QuantumPion said:
Well I figured out the cause of the mouse corner lag - it's caused by having a phantom second display device when using the HDMI audio out. So now I get to chose between having mouse corner lag, or no audio. GG.
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Where do you disable this? I don't use audio over video cables.

I just noticed this bug!
 
Everything seems to be fine except I've noticed that CCC's CLI.exe fails after gaming.

It just doesn't load after gaming forawhile but windows and game itself is fine.

I was using VRU and CCC oc, but now disabled them both and using trixx.
will update to see if it'll fix the issue.
 
Scholzpdx said:
Where do you disable this? I don't use audio over video cables.

I just noticed this bug!
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There may be multiple causes of the same or similar bug. If you go into CCC, check the monitors/displays tab (forgot what it is called) and see if there is more than one monitor/desktop space enabled.
 
11.2 Catalyst's didn't cause the issue I was having, but did have an effect on making the issue more frequent, and brought it to my attention.

I didn't want to confirm it was okay till I tested for at least a week. (Didn't want to make the mistake of thinking it was okay, just cause it was okay for a day or so.)

Despite passing memtest constantly and always, the memory was what was causing my issue.

I thought it was an issue with memory, but discounted it at first due to the long runs of stability tests and memtest without errors.
 
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