New Alice in Chains album coming out??

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soonerproud

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Originally posted by: mikej007
No Layne Staley, no Alice in Chains.

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Except Jerry has always been the leader, main song writer and main lyricist of the band. Jerry is responsible for the sound of AIC so I can see the band continuing without Layne, much like AC/DC did without Bon Scott. The first album AC/DC did with Brian Johnson at the mic is the best selling metal album of all times and the third highest selling album ever. (Back in Black)
 

soonerproud

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Originally posted by: Steve
Speaking of Van Halen, who would've been happy had they changed their name to Van Hagar during Sammy's time as frontman?

Funny thing is Van Halen's first number one song was with Hagar and they had several more after that. I like both incarnations of VH equally, but different. Now that Cherone guy was a huge mistake for VH.
 

vi edit

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Well first single is out...what's everyone think?

Personally I thought it could be a couple minutes shorter. First couple minutes are nothing special but the second half of the song with muted chorus and wispering are eerily close to what AIC with Layne sounded like. Cantrell certainly hasn't gone soft over the years. I'm very curious to see what sort of variety they have in the rest of the album.

They drop another single like this prior to album release and this thing is going to be a huge seller.
 
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Link for the lazy: http://www.aliceinchains.com/

I like it quite a bit. Dark tone, and does sound a little too much like the current rock sound (why can't we get a good clean album instead of everything mashed together? it'd go a long way to showing what separates the really good bands/guitarists/drummers from the adequate ones), but still pretty good.
 

Codewiz

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Why the phuk can't they just call themselves something different? Let AIC RIP.

SO when they released an album under a new name and it sounds like AIC, they would get hammered for sounding like AIC.

They keep the name and people whine.

People get caught up in the MEMBERS of a band instead of the MUSIC from a band. The music is actually what matters. AIC lost one member. Tragically. I GUARANTEE that if Layne didn't die but left the band and AIC continued, there wouldn't be nearly the uproar.

And yes, I had the same opinion as you did for a long time. I just realized that music is what matters.
 

vi edit

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Why the phuk can't they just call themselves something different? Let AIC RIP.

Keeping that name virtually guarantees them an instant fan base to buy the album assuming it doesn't totally suck.

I don't here anyone (now) complaining about AC/DC calling themselves AC/DC after Johnson took over for Bon Scott. I was like 2 years old when that actually happened so I don't know what sort of debates were swirling at the time it actually happened.
 

SP33Demon

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Yeah that's true Code and vi. I suppose it's only one guy and they'll make more $ off their name.
 

SunSamurai

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I'll try and put myself in your shoes OP.

If Maynard from tool died and tool tried to get another singer, I'd be pretty turned off of the idea too. Maynard is tool. Layne I suppose was AIC.
 

Codewiz

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Originally posted by: SunSamurai
I'll try and put myself in your shoes OP.

If Maynard from tool died and tool tried to get another singer, I'd be pretty turned off of the idea too. Maynard is tool. Layne I suppose was AIC.

Tool and AIC are two of my most liked bands. I would have no problem with either AS long as the new albums were great.

If Tool or AIC put out crappy albums with new singers, I would hate it because they were crappy albums. Part of the reason they might be crappy is because the vocals suck but it is very likely not the only reason.

If the albums are great then I don't care who is voicing the mic, playing the bass, guitar or drums. It just doesn't matter if the music is good.
 
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The only real question, and I'm assuming the rest of the band could answer this better than any of us (or probably any fan) could, and that is: would Layne have a problem with them still being Alice in Chains? So, with that in mind, I don't have a problem with it myself. It'll never be the same, but there's no reason it can't still be Alice in Chains to me.
 

MrMatt

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Originally posted by: vi edit
Well first single is out...what's everyone think?

Personally I thought it could be a couple minutes shorter. First couple minutes are nothing shorter but the second half of the song with muted chorus and wispering are eerily close to what AIC with Layne sounded like. Cantrell certainly hasn't gone soft over the years. I'm very curious to see what sort of variety they have in the rest of the album.

They drop another single like this prior to album release and this thing is going to be a huge seller.

I heard the last minute yesterday. I didn't even hear any words and I was like "Hmm this sounds like Alice in Chains. It must be the new track" sure enough it was. Clearly Jerry Cantrell was a/the driving force behind the old sound of AIC, and still is now. The ending didn't sound half bad.
 

SunSamurai

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Originally posted by: Codewiz
Originally posted by: SunSamurai
I'll try and put myself in your shoes OP.

If Maynard from tool died and tool tried to get another singer, I'd be pretty turned off of the idea too. Maynard is tool. Layne I suppose was AIC.

Tool and AIC are two of my most liked bands. I would have no problem with either AS long as the new albums were great.

If Tool or AIC put out crappy albums with new singers, I would hate it because they were crappy albums. Part of the reason they might be crappy is because the vocals suck but it is very likely not the only reason.

If the albums are great then I don't care who is voicing the mic, playing the bass, guitar or drums. It just doesn't matter if the music is good.

Thats a pretty cold way to look at art in general.
 

waffleironhead

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Heard Check My Brain. It sounded great. I new who it was before the DJ even said anything. Sounds like they havnt lost anything over the years.
 

Slick5150

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Really digging Check My Brain. Great track.

To anyone whining about a new Alice in Chains album without Layne, listen to this song and tell me you could put any band name in front of this song OTHER than Alice in Chains.
 

Reckoner

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The new cd kicks fuckin' ass. It'll never be the same without Layne, but I am very, very pleased with this new album. There's no filler songs... they all rule.
 

Fingolfin269

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Originally posted by: Slick5150
Really digging Check My Brain. Great track.

To anyone whining about a new Alice in Chains album without Layne, listen to this song and tell me you could put any band name in front of this song OTHER than Alice in Chains.

I disagree. It sounds so close that if I didn't know Layne was dead I would think this was him... simply because it's been so long since the last album.
 

LikeLinus

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this album just lacks totally. Jerry is such a brilliant guitarist, but he can't write or match what AIC was creating during the dirt era. The new songs just sound so borning. There are a few good riffs here and there, but for the most part it's just bland and lacks.

They were good before because they were drug addicts writing music as young people who were angry with life in general. You can't play or write the same way when you're a 40 yr old sober rich person...just doesn't work that way. The music before was very dark and gritty. The new stuff just feels too polished and the riffs aren't as sick as they were before. It's not that I don't like the new music, but it's not AIC in the vibe it gives off.
 

Joemonkey

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Originally posted by: LikeLinus
this album just lacks totally. Jerry is such a brilliant guitarist, but he can't write or match what AIC was creating during the dirt era. The new songs just sound so borning. There are a few good riffs here and there, but for the most part it's just bland and lacks.

They were good before because they were drug addicts writing music as young people who were angry with life in general. You can't play or write the same way when you're a 40 yr old sober rich person...just doesn't work that way. The music before was very dark and gritty. The new stuff just feels too polished and the riffs aren't as sick as they were before. It's not that I don't like the new music, but it's not AIC in the vibe it gives off.

while I tend to agree, I think you'd probably be the type of person to complain "its the same old shit!" if they didn't change a little...
 

Capt Caveman

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Just watched them perform on Jimmy Kimmel. They sounded pretty good. They even perform an old tune, 'Would'.
 

Platypus

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The first track is classic AIC, the rest of the album has bits and pieces of awesome tunes inside mediocre ones.

Lead singer is ok, he only sounds good when in harmony with Jerry and then they can channel that old school AIC vibe and sound almost exactly like Layne was there. He doesn't sound anything like Layne when singing alone and I don't think he fits the band exceptionally well personally.
 
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Bleh, compressed to hell. I can't listen to it for more than a couple of minutes without getting a headache. I had a feeling it would be, but I didn't think it would be so bad that I can't stand to even listen to it long enough to make an opinion on the music.
 

runestone

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Have to agree with the "bland and blah" opinions, overall.
Sounds like they are just trying to retread old licks.
I do wish em the best of luck though- the grunge era was fun.