Never talk to the police.

[SampSon]

Originally posted by: QED
What kind of world do some of you people live in where your biggest fear is **gasp** a police officer talking to you?

If you've committed a crime, then common sense should already tell you to shut the fuck up. If you haven't committed a crime but are withholding information that could solve one because you want to consult your attorney first, you are probably a douchebag. In any case, this video helps noone. If you're a criminal with common sense, you don't need to be told to not talk. If your not a criminal and have common sense, you know that there are times when it is perfectly fine to talk to a police officer. So who is the target audience for this video--idiots?

You are far more likely to die in an automobile accident than you are to be falsely accused, arrested, and convicted of a crime you didn't commit simply because you spoke to a police officer. So I propose a new thread for the OP: "NEVER ever drive a car! Don't forfeit your right to live without first consulting an attorney!".

You win the award for really bad analogies.

 

[QED]

Originally posted by: SampSon

You win the award for really bad analogies.

That was the point.

 

[SampSon]

No, it really wasn't.

Though I'll give you a redemption shot to come up with a better analogy.
You have 5 minutes.

 

[QED]

Originally posted by: SampSon
No, it really wasn't.

Yes, it was.

*cues Monty Python*

Though I'll give you a redemption shot to come up with a better analogy.
You have 5 minutes.

Well, if you claim to know what my point was, then I'll give you 5 minutes to come up with a better one for me. I'll be forever in your debt.

 

[jaqie]

Originally posted by: Corporate Thug
the fact that you are more likely to die from a car accident then be falsely accused is irrelevant - you should still take steps from preventing it however unlikely. Besides, even though the probability is low, if it should happen, you are in for a world of hurt.

Going along those lines, do you prepare yourself for the unlikely event the king of the wickerpeople from outer space wants to come down and take your clothes?
Or maybe you prepare for the day that bicycles become sentient and rule the world?
Or maybe the day that your eyeball decides to fall out on it's own accord without warning, tell you it is going to marry your sister, and runs off. Do you prepare for that?

The likeliness of an event is very relevant to preparing for it.

Note I am not getting into the main argument focus here, just showing how stupid it is to say likeliness of an event is irrelevant to advising people to prepare for it.

 

[SampSon]

Dur...

You didn't have a point to make, and then you backed it up with a really bad analogy. So yea.

Though give me a few minutes and I'll come up with an analogy for you.

 

[SampSon]

You're far more likely to be in a car accident then be in a situation where a handgun will help you.
Never leave your house without carrying a hand gun!

 

[QED]

Originally posted by: SampSon
Dur...

You didn't have a point to make, and then you backed it up with a really bad analogy. So yea.

I must conclude that, despite your claims to the contrary, you suck at mind reading.

Though give me a few minutes and I'll come up with an analogy for you.

I will patiently await your insight.

 

[SampSon]

Honestly, I've lost track of what this was about anyway.

I do know that QED attempted to make a point that was already completely covered in this thread, and diffused.
That was the point.

 

[yllus]

Hell, one of my closest friends (and the guarantor of my passport) is a cop and even he says people should keep their lips zipped. You have everything to lose by talking.

 

[soccerballtux]

For some reason I can't access or download or watch this video....

 

[QED]

Originally posted by: jaqie

The likeliness of an event is very relevant to preparing for it.

Note I am not getting into the main argument focus here, just showing how stupid it is to say likeliness of an event is irrelevant to advising people to prepare for it.

When did I say (or imply) that the likeliness of an event is irrelevant to advising people to prepare for it? My point was exactly the opposite, since I'd estimate the odds are very, very low of someone being falsely accused, tried, and convicted for a crime they did not commit (and were not under any suspicion of committing a crime) simply because they spoke to the police.

Now if you were trying to point out that my comparision is a bit unfair because more people drive everyday then speak with the police, and therefore even if both were equally risky you'd still have way more automobile-related deaths than people wrongly in prison simply because they spoke to the police-- then I can understand that.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

My mom was a criminal defense attorney when I was a kid, and she always counseled me never to talk to police. Her advice has never steered me wrong.

 

[0roo0roo]

Getting Tricked or Intimidated by Police
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOE9feaWl1U
Refusing Police Entry to Your Home
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCVnMDy_7nM
How to Refuse a Police Search
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyokKFIecIo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uV0g5B1blqk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJWFAWqzSds

never assume the justice system is perfect.
cover your ass.

 

[0roo0roo]

any sites for stripping a wmv?

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: jaqie

Originally posted by: Corporate Thug
the fact that you are more likely to die from a car accident then be falsely accused is irrelevant - you should still take steps from preventing it however unlikely. Besides, even though the probability is low, if it should happen, you are in for a world of hurt.

Going along those lines, do you prepare yourself for the unlikely event the king of the wickerpeople from outer space wants to come down and take your clothes?
Or maybe you prepare for the day that bicycles become sentient and rule the world?
Or maybe the day that your eyeball decides to fall out on it's own accord without warning, tell you it is going to marry your sister, and runs off. Do you prepare for that?

The likeliness of an event is very relevant to preparing for it.

Note I am not getting into the main argument focus here, just showing how stupid it is to say likeliness of an event is irrelevant to advising people to prepare for it.

your argument is flawed because all that has been established is that it is more likely that some gets into a car accident rather than getting in trouble with the law, there are no actual probabilities listed for either.

Secondly, the probability of this event happening being low should factor very little into the equation because the COST of the "preparation" is next to nothing (i.e. taking a few out of your day to learn your rights and then running down the costs and benefits of talking to authorities).

 

[TallBill]

Hmm, I actually agree with this if the case is in regards to yourself in any way. If they are asking about another incident that you are witness to then you should speak up.

It's shocking how many people write a sworn statement with no lawyer implicating themselves.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: yllus
Hell, one of my closest friends (and the guarantor of my passport) is a cop and even he says people should keep their lips zipped. You have everything to lose by talking.

yeap. i know 3 cops. one of them i have known since i was 12 (he was 30 and a "big brother" type with a program i was in). All 3 of them have said that you never talk to a cop without a lawyer or parent (was told that when younger heh).

if under 18 just say you rname and you want a perent with you. As a adult never volenter information (of course if witness to accident or crime thats diffrent)

 

[0roo0roo]

good video, i eventually just used itunes to save it.

 

[K1052]

I'm still surprised how many people really don't know this.

Many cops just want to clear cases and many prosecutors just want their convictions. The pursuit of justice is unfortunately not at the foremost in the minds of many in the justice system.

Don't physically resist and keep your trap firmly shut except to ask for legal counsel which they are legally obligated to make available to you.