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Sketcher

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Have you bridged the modem connection and the LAN NIC in your Network Connections?

You said it WAS working and all of a sudden it isn't.

When your wife's PC quit connecting; was yours still able to access internet?

Any changes at all between the working/non working issue?
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: Chrono
good god. you can buy a damn router for 15-20 bucks at fry's (airlink). it's not the best but it WORKS.

I know that, and i dont need a router.
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: Sketcher
Have you bridged the modem connection and the LAN NIC in your Network Connections?

You said it WAS working and all of a sudden it isn't.

When your wife's PC quit connecting; was yours still able to access internet?

Any changes at all between the working/non working issue?

not bridged, I need to get comm between my 3 pc's first.

no changes were made.

 

JoLLyRoGer

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Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: Sketcher
Have you bridged the modem connection and the LAN NIC in your Network Connections?

You said it WAS working and all of a sudden it isn't.

When your wife's PC quit connecting; was yours still able to access internet?

Any changes at all between the working/non working issue?

not bridged, I need to get comm between my 3 pc's first.

no changes were made.

I'm legitimately trying to help you out here, did you swap your hub back in yet? Are you going to to see of we can isolate this down to the switch?

 

spidey07

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Saw pics.

Dealt with those many years back.

don't trust them.

You still have a layer1 problem. Swap ports, swap cables but you still have a layer1 problem.
 

JoLLyRoGer

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Originally posted by: BriGy86
citrix was saying he was using dialup anyway, what good would a router do?

FWIW, what good would a switch do for a host and 2 clients to share a dial-up connection?.:confused:
 

BriGy86

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Originally posted by: JoLLyRoGer
Originally posted by: BriGy86
citrix was saying he was using dialup anyway, what good would a router do?

FWIW, what good would a switch do for a host and 2 clients to share a dial-up connection?.:confused:

he's using a file sharng server also
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: JoLLyRoGer
Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: Sketcher
Have you bridged the modem connection and the LAN NIC in your Network Connections?

You said it WAS working and all of a sudden it isn't.

When your wife's PC quit connecting; was yours still able to access internet?

Any changes at all between the working/non working issue?

not bridged, I need to get comm between my 3 pc's first.

no changes were made.

I'm legitimately trying to help you out here, did you swap your hub back in yet? Are you going to to see of we can isolate this down to the switch?

I really appreciate it and thank you. Yes i have swapped the hubs back and forth and get the same results. no pinging not comm between any of my 3 pc's.

I dont get it, im stumpted and frustrated.
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: BriGy86
Originally posted by: JoLLyRoGer
Originally posted by: BriGy86
citrix was saying he was using dialup anyway, what good would a router do?

FWIW, what good would a switch do for a host and 2 clients to share a dial-up connection?.:confused:

he's using a file sharng server also


Its not a "server" just a old POS HP running 2000 pro with a raid5 that my wife and I use to store stuff. I dont even have a monitor, mouse or keyboard hooked up to it, just power and cat-5
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: Sketcher
Post the ipconfig /all of each machine.


Mine

C:\Documents and Settings\Don>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : darkstar
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter home:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel 8255x-based PCI Ethernet Adapt
er (10/100)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-A0-C9-0D-69-FB
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

PPP adapter BI:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.16.156.80
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 172.16.156.80
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.16.4.27
172.16.7.235
Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 172.16.4.50
Secondary WINS Server . . . . . . : 172.16.4.1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

 

BriGy86

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Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: BriGy86
Originally posted by: JoLLyRoGer
Originally posted by: BriGy86
citrix was saying he was using dialup anyway, what good would a router do?

FWIW, what good would a switch do for a host and 2 clients to share a dial-up connection?.:confused:

he's using a file sharng server also


Its not a "server" just a old POS HP running 2000 pro with a raid5 that my wife and I use to store stuff. I dont even have a monitor, mouse or keyboard hooked up to it, just power and cat-5

point is you're using a central point to store stuff

but what ever
 

Lifted

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Old Baynetworks switch you took from work?

Dude, the thing is probably configured with VLANs or MAC filtering, which means you will only be able to communicate when you confugre the computers with the correct IP of the VLANs or changing any filtering.
 

spidey07

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oh crap.

just realized you are using ICS.

you're done. game over man. there is nothing I can help you with anymore, time to just shoot the ICS box with a large weapon.

 

Lifted

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Actually, I seem to remember having issues, way back in the day, with NIC's not receiving being able to autodetect on BayNetworks switches, which is a fairly common problem to begin with.

Are you sure the switch is 10/100? Try setting the NIC's to 10baseT and see what you get.

It's either a Layer 1 or Layer 2 issue, so try manual configuration of the NIC's and also try checking the config of the switch for VLAN's or filters.

 

JoLLyRoGer

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Aug 24, 2000
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Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: Sketcher
Post the ipconfig /all of each machine.


Mine

C:\Documents and Settings\Don>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : darkstar
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter home:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel 8255x-based PCI Ethernet Adapt
er (10/100)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-A0-C9-0D-69-FB
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

PPP adapter BI:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.16.156.80
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 172.16.156.80
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.16.4.27
172.16.7.235
Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 172.16.4.50
Secondary WINS Server . . . . . . : 172.16.4.1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

OK, I don't see anything there that looks out of the ordinary. WINS is a little peculiar, unless you're running something pre-Active Directory on your network, but it really doesn't apply here...

You said you put the hub back in place and still no joy correct? Lets take this down another level then. Do you have a x-over cable or can you make one? If so, get it and hook your wife's computer directly into yours and try to get them talking to one another. Then check to see if ICS is working. If it doesn't come right up then we need to take a look at some of your host-client network settings.
 

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Lifer
Jun 5, 2000
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Originally posted by: Lifted
Actually, I seem to remember having issues, way back in the day, with NIC's not receiving being able to autodetect on BayNetworks switches, which is a fairly common problem to begin with.

Are you sure the switch is 10/100? Try setting the NIC's to 10baseT and see what you get.

It's either a Layer 1 or Layer 2 issue, so try manual configuration of the NIC's and also try checking the config of the switch for VLAN's or filters.

both are 100base-T hubs. both nics are set to 100/full duplex and were before all this started.
 

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Lifer
Jun 5, 2000
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Originally posted by: spidey07
oh crap.

just realized you are using ICS.

you're done. game over man. there is nothing I can help you with anymore, time to just shoot the ICS box with a large weapon.

what does ICS have to do with not being able to ping??
 

Lifted

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Nov 30, 2004
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Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: Lifted
Actually, I seem to remember having issues, way back in the day, with NIC's not receiving being able to autodetect on BayNetworks switches, which is a fairly common problem to begin with.

Are you sure the switch is 10/100? Try setting the NIC's to 10baseT and see what you get.

It's either a Layer 1 or Layer 2 issue, so try manual configuration of the NIC's and also try checking the config of the switch for VLAN's or filters.

both are 100base-T hubs. both nics are set to 100/full duplex and were before all this started.


Manually set to full duplex? The hub could be half duplex. Try setting the NIC's to auto or half.