Netscape Browsers...RIP

[Drekce]

Go here for the story

 

[bigbootydaddy]

IMO, good riddance to bad rubbish.

 

[Czar]

YESSSSS FINALY

 

[Urinal Mint]

I didn't know Netscape still had a browser available.

Of course, I also remember seeing Internet Explorer 2.0 and thinking to myself, "these guys will never be able to touch Netscape."

 

[StageLeft]

Does this mean they will stop releasing browsers? PLEASE say its so.

 

Thank God. Too bad that evil beast Mozilla is still in production. Last I heard version 1.0 was set back until Q3 or 4 of this year.

 

[PliotronX]

Took em long enough, geez.

 

[PCResources]

Are all of you web-designers?

If not, then why are you so happy that a browser that you do not use will be discontinued?

I for one think that it is a bad thing, competition is a good thing, it keeps the prices down and the programmers alert...

Patrick

 

[Urinal Mint]

If you saw Netscape 6 I think you'll agree that the coders at Netscape weren't very alert when they created such a P.O.S. browser.

 

[PCResources]

<< If you saw Netscape 6 I think you'll agree that the coders at Netscape weren't very alert when they created such a P.O.S. browser >>



You know, nobody is forcing you to use it... If you don't use it, then why do you care?

IE hasn't been all that great with loads of security leaks, so maybe it should be discontinued also? Then again, if i don't like it, i will use another one, provided that there is another one out there...

Maybe it wasn't the best browser out there, but all competition should be seen as a good thing.

Patrick

 

[StageLeft]

I think many of us have done websites and had nutscrape make us curse our mothers. What this hopefully means is that it won't be long until IE is the only browser really used and we can truly afford to create only for it. Ah, its going to be so nice

 

[Urinal Mint]

Skoorb:

Agreed... I still wonder why my stylesheets never showed up right in Netscape. :|

Man, 4 ratings and I'm still at 1. What in the hell is going on around here?

 

[Double Trouble]

How stupid do you have to be not to see that fewer options is always a bad thing, no matter which product you use? :|

If you don't like it, don't use it, at least now you have the choice between various browsers. If Opera fails and Netscape vanishes, we'll all be completely dependent on one browser and the whim of one company. Does that sound like a good idea to any of you??

Without competition there is no driving force for innovation. We all get inferior products down the road if there's no significant competition.

 

[Modeps]

im a web designer and i am VERY happy. WOOHOO!

 

[obiwaynekenobi]

I don't use either. I use Opera.

it's faster has less bugs and better caching. and it's free!

 

[Urinal Mint]

I'm all about fair competition... the free market economy got us where we are today, right? I never said anything to imply that I favored the monopolistic nature of MS in the browser realm. The only point I made was that NS6 was a turd, and as a result I immediately uninstalled it and went back to using IE5.5.

I feel that Netscape went overboard on trying to make their browser feature-rich and as a result, it was just too damned &quot;busy&quot; to use efficiently. I feel that most of us just want something simple and streamlined, and for god's sake, something that WORKS with standards as they evolve. Netscape never seemed to grasp those concepts, and as a result they have faded away.

Hopefully someone can make a great tool, but until then, the best man (IE) will keep winning.

 

[StageLeft]

I like competition - what I don't like is when different browsers display pages differently. For this reason I support the most popular which is IE. If nutscrape was more than a useless pile of crap than it would display pages properly and we'd never have this problem with it!

 

[kami]

I'm a web designer (its my job!) and this makes me HAPPY. However most use IE anyway...from our stats here on the sites we've made, roughly 85-90% visit the sites with Internet Explorer.

 

[bandXtrb]

Goodbye Nutscrape.

 

[Demon-Xanth]

Go Opera!


Yes, Opera 5.0 can post to these forums, and although 5.02-5.11 cannot the reason why has been found and will be fixed in the next release (I have been told this by an Opera programmer). It has to do with the forum software not liking line breaks in the header.

 

[1967mustangman]

FREE AT LAST FREE AT LAST!!! OH MY GOD I'M FREE AT LAST!!!!!!!!

 

[Modeps]

netscrape is way too picky with their code... thats why we all hate it. plus, 1/2 of the things you can do in IE you cant in NS (until NS6, but that is just murder...) like all the things in CSS you can define, scrollbars looking purty to match the page (in IE5.5), heck, DIV tags dont work at ALL in NS 4.08 and 4.7! Good Riddance to bad rubbish indeed.

this makes my job a HELL of a lot better...

EDIT: oh, and Urnial Cake, NS6 is based off of Mozilla 0.9 .... compliant to the latest W3C standards... if you install Mozilla, you will think your running NS6. NS programmers actually did something .... well, for the most part anyway... correctly. They just left out alot of stuff that they should have done (which is compliant with their track record)...

 

[PCResources]

<< What this hopefully means is that it won't be long until IE is the only browser really used and we can truly afford to create only for it >>



I understand that, the greatest thing would be one platform, Intel CPU, MS OS, programs and browser, one type of RAM, one soundcard manufacturer and one videocard manufacturer only (networking will not be supported as it can lead to differently configured networks)...

That would be great, no more choices, no more special driver installations (as everyone will use the same hardware you can just use the drivers that comes with the OS, and they could be automatically updated via windows update)... This solution would be built and supplied by Dell, and only Dell.

That way it is very easy to develop, one platform, one set of hardware, one set of SW... Wouldn't that be nice?

Patrick

 

[Elledan]

Intake77, you thought that designing for Netscape was bad? Just wait till you've to design a site that works properly in Opera.

I've never had a single problem with designing for NS or IE. Actually, IE has given me more problems than NS (as far as I remember). Designing for Opera is your worst nightmare if you're used to designing for IE.

BTW Mozilla is not evil at all. Actually I prefer it over Opera and IE. It's faster than IE, uses less memory than Opera (Opera seems to leak memory: it uses >80 MB RAM after a few hours) and is improving rapidly, unlike IE and Opera.
Another disadvantage of IE is that it's integrated in the OS. This makes upgrading the browser an extremely risky undertaking with sometimes a serious impact on the OS.

[edit]: Correction: NS6 isn't based on Mozilla 0.9, but on Mozilla 0.6.

 

[Priit]

I don't care what they are doing with NS, I found Mozilla and KDE's Konqueror being better browsers anyway. Hope that web designers aren't going to make their pages normally browsable for only IE/M$ platform, thougt... pages using &quot;windows-xxxx&quot; charsets and other that kind of platform-specific stuff suck *ss... people might as well put links like &quot;file://nul&quot; to their pages to make Win9x users happy...