Netanyahu: No war crimes trials for Israelis

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jonks

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Great, when is the US on trial for Iraq and Afghanistan? can't have it both ways.
 

seemingly random

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Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: seemingly random
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: seemingly random
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
I totaqlly agree with Netanyahu..100%!!!

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Just curious: Is agreeing 100%!!! more than 100%!! or 100%!?

Would agreeing 99%!!!!!!!! be more than 100%!?

Thanks in advance for your careful consideration!

Did you have something to say about the article or were you just being a fucking idiot??
Just curious: Is a sentence ending with two question marks more questionable than a sentence with just one? What about one with three question marks? At what point does it becomes an exclamatory interrogative?

Answers to these questions would be very helpful in deciphering your posts.

so your being a fucking idiot..
Nobody died and appointed you grammar policeman!
How could someone die and then do anything? That would be a very special person indeed.

Do you think benjamin netanyahu would be where he is today if he was this sloppy?
 

ayabe

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Purposefully targeting hospitals and food stores isn't an acceptable manner to conduct war.
 

jonks

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Originally posted by: ayabe
Purposefully targeting hospitals and food stores isn't an acceptable manner to conduct war.

I agree. You're supposed to target weddings and bus depots. Everyone knows this.
 

StageLeft

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Originally posted by: Lemon law
There are international standards of conduct regarding war, no use of poison gas, no use of white Prosperous in populated areas, no collective punishment, no targeting civilians, its all codified, Israel signed on, and all Netanyihu is saying is that Israelis are special and above all standards of conduct.

Its called thinking you can get away with murder, a common belief among all criminals. Insert justification, I needed the money so I robbed a bank, I need a place to live so I simply deported the former occupant, I am special and above the law, yada yada. Simple arrogance in the extreme.

Maybe Netanyuhu will be happier if he gets to share an adjacent cell with an also extradited Hamas terrorists who also feel they are above the law and special. They can spend many a happy hour comparing stinking justifications for killing people and brutalizing their fellow man.
Kind of like how the US doesn't let its people get subjected to these trials, too.

I think it's ridiculous. In reality the only people who are subjected to war crimes trials are those on the losing side or the occasional fall guy. I guess I agree to the rules until i want to break them kind of thing.

 

Atreus21

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Originally posted by: fallout man
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

As usual your particular brand of bull shit comes at the cost of a nations right to defend itself in whatever manner it chooses. The Isrtaeli`s need no justification for defending there country and their people.

Shalom!!

SHOLAM!!!1

Any Nation!! Should have the RIGHt to DEFEND ITselF in WAHTEVER mennear it chooses!!1

The Isrtaeli's and the Irenians need no justification for defending there country and there people!!1 (!!!!1).!

Now that, my friend, is a strong rebuttal.
 

Jaskalas

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Originally posted by: Red Irish
Who are you referring to, the women and children killed in their own homes? Netanyahu's entire diatribe can be summed up as follows: Fuck Off World, We Do What We Want.

Sadly, at the time of writing, he is entirely correct.

However, anyone who turned on a television set and witnessed the shelling of urban areas within the Gaza Strip during Israel's last campaign can have no doubt that war crimes were indeed committed. Whilst you choose to wave triumphal flags and criticise what you variously describe as unfounded accusations and anti-Semitism, I condemn you for supporting crimes against humanity. Hopefully, the international community is as tired of Israel's attitude as I am and something will eventually be done to stop the expansion of the illegal housing and the unwarranted slaughter of civilians.

Do so quote me on "accusations and anti-Semitism". Of course you are lying and cannot backup your slander of me.

You condemn me for what, supporting Israel? I condemn you for supporting Muslim terrorists and their crimes against humanity. Hopefully, the international community is as tired of Palestine?s attitude as I am and something will eventually be done to stop the expansion of terrorism and the unwarranted slaughter of civilians.
 

EagleKeeper

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Originally posted by: Red Irish
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
I totaqlly agree with Netanyahu..100%!!!

On a side note what is disproportionate force in a war?? You play to win.....you don`t play to draw...lol

What do you expect to win, the Hitler Prize for extermination? You laugh out loud? You are as sick as the shameless leader you support. The heinous acts committed by Israel during its last excursion into the Gaza Strip are comparable to the worst war crimes committed in human history. Bombarding civilian areas is not war.

IDF propaganda at its worst.
When fighting is launched from civilian areas; what determines that change of status?

Hamas fighters do not respect the rules of war - pull them into the circle jerk also.

 

Dari

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Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
Originally posted by: Red Irish
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
I totaqlly agree with Netanyahu..100%!!!

On a side note what is disproportionate force in a war?? You play to win.....you don`t play to draw...lol

What do you expect to win, the Hitler Prize for extermination? You laugh out loud? You are as sick as the shameless leader you support. The heinous acts committed by Israel during its last excursion into the Gaza Strip are comparable to the worst war crimes committed in human history. Bombarding civilian areas is not war.

IDF propaganda at its worst.
When fighting is launched from civilian areas; what determines that change of status?

Hamas fighters do not respect the rules of war - pull them into the circle jerk also.

Hitler would agree with you. Same thing happened to the Jews who decided to fight the Nazis from their ghettos in occupied-Poland. What did the Nazis do in response? Well, they raised the whole fucking place and killed about 20,000 Jews.
 

jonks

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
Originally posted by: Red Irish
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
I totaqlly agree with Netanyahu..100%!!!

On a side note what is disproportionate force in a war?? You play to win.....you don`t play to draw...lol

What do you expect to win, the Hitler Prize for extermination? You laugh out loud? You are as sick as the shameless leader you support. The heinous acts committed by Israel during its last excursion into the Gaza Strip are comparable to the worst war crimes committed in human history. Bombarding civilian areas is not war.

IDF propaganda at its worst.
When fighting is launched from civilian areas; what determines that change of status?

Hamas fighters do not respect the rules of war - pull them into the circle jerk also.

Hitler would agree with you. Same thing happened to the Jews who decided to fight the Nazis from their ghettos in occupied-Poland. What did the Nazis do in response? Well, they raised the whole fucking place and killed about 20,000 Jews.

Such a shame the Jews didn't accept any of the many and various peace offerings the Nazi's made or else that sorry incident could have been avoided.

Schmuck.
 

CitizenKain

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When someone in Palestine launches a rocket that kills a dog, its a warcrime.
When a Israel uses white phosphorus on civilians, its defense.

Funny how that works out.
 

Dari

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Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
Originally posted by: Red Irish
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
I totaqlly agree with Netanyahu..100%!!!

On a side note what is disproportionate force in a war?? You play to win.....you don`t play to draw...lol

What do you expect to win, the Hitler Prize for extermination? You laugh out loud? You are as sick as the shameless leader you support. The heinous acts committed by Israel during its last excursion into the Gaza Strip are comparable to the worst war crimes committed in human history. Bombarding civilian areas is not war.

IDF propaganda at its worst.
When fighting is launched from civilian areas; what determines that change of status?

Hamas fighters do not respect the rules of war - pull them into the circle jerk also.

Hitler would agree with you. Same thing happened to the Jews who decided to fight the Nazis from their ghettos in occupied-Poland. What did the Nazis do in response? Well, they raised the whole fucking place and killed about 20,000 Jews.

Such a shame the Jews didn't accept any of the many and various peace offerings the Nazi's made or else that sorry incident could have been avoided.

Schmuck.

Like going to Madagascar? Too bad indeed.
 

ayabe

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Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: ayabe
Purposefully targeting hospitals and food stores isn't an acceptable manner to conduct war.

I agree. You're supposed to target weddings and bus depots. Everyone knows this.

Nice dodge.

As an American taxpayer I have a problem when my subsidy dollars are being used to commit war crimes, guess you don't, duly noted.
 

EagleKeeper

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Originally posted by: CitizenKain
When someone in Palestine launches a rocket that kills a dog, its a warcrime.
When a Israel uses white phosphorus on civilians, its defense.

Funny how that works out.

So what is the intention of the rocket launch?

 

Dari

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Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
Originally posted by: CitizenKain
When someone in Palestine launches a rocket that kills a dog, its a warcrime.
When a Israel uses white phosphorus on civilians, its defense.

Funny how that works out.

So what is the intention of the rocket launch?

Would you be happy if every Muslim around the world was allowed to donate to a Palestinian Army, armed and trained by whoever they want? That way, they could use conventional weapons like tanks and planes. Would that make you feel better?
 

ayabe

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The US had many, many more people killed on 9/11 than Israel will ever lose from Palestinian attacks.

I doubt very many in here defending Israel would condone such behavior by the US military, even if it was against Al Qaeda.

It's as simple as that, Israel must retain the moral high ground, even when it's difficult. You can't view things like this in a vacuum, things like this will just make it harder to drum up support against Iran.

If Israel tells the UN to fuckoff, there's certainly no reason for Iran to comply with anything they want.
 

kylebisme

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It seems many here don't consider such disregard for human rights troubling as long as Arabs are the one ones getting the shit end of the stick of it. As one noble Israeli sarcastically explained:

This is the Israeli notion of a fair deal: We're entitled to do whatever the hell we want to the Palestinians because, by definition, whatever we do to them is self-defense. They, however, are not entitled to lift a finger against us because, by definition, whatever they do to us is terrorism.

That's the way it's always been, that's the way it was in Operation Cast Lead.

AND THERE are no limits on our right to self-defense. There is no such thing as "disproportionate." We can blockade Gaza, we can answer Kassams with F-16s and Apaches, we can take 100 eyes for an eye.

We can deliberately destroy thousands of Gazan homes, the Gazan parliament, the Ministry of Justice, the Ministry of Interior, courthouses, the only Gazan flour plant, the main poultry farm, a sewage treatment plant, water wells and God knows what else.

Deliberately.

After all, we're acting in self-defense. By definition.

And what right do the Palestinians have to defend themselves against this?

None.
That sums up the position of those defending Israel on this matter, eh? Granted, I doubt it is the position at least most of you mean to have, but I can see how it could be hard for you to even know what your position is with all the propaganda clouding the facts.
 

jonks

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Originally posted by: ayabe
Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: ayabe
Purposefully targeting hospitals and food stores isn't an acceptable manner to conduct war.

I agree. You're supposed to target weddings and bus depots. Everyone knows this.

Nice dodge.

As an American taxpayer I have a problem when my subsidy dollars are being used to commit war crimes, guess you don't, duly noted.

1. The US has done far worse and gets a little bit more of your tax dollars than Israel does. As an aside, you have zero say where your tax dollars go.

2. We have given money to palestinian groups too. No problem with that?

3. Israel doesn't have a policy of committing war crimes, unlike the US did under Bush. When Israeli soldiers do something illegal, they are held to account, the way the US held soldiers who raped and murdered Iraqi's to account.

4. Hamas and other palestinian groups existence is a war crime as their main focus is the destruction of israel by any means, and a disregard for any distinction between combatant and non-combatant.
 

jonks

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Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
Originally posted by: Red Irish
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
I totaqlly agree with Netanyahu..100%!!!

On a side note what is disproportionate force in a war?? You play to win.....you don`t play to draw...lol

What do you expect to win, the Hitler Prize for extermination? You laugh out loud? You are as sick as the shameless leader you support. The heinous acts committed by Israel during its last excursion into the Gaza Strip are comparable to the worst war crimes committed in human history. Bombarding civilian areas is not war.

IDF propaganda at its worst.
When fighting is launched from civilian areas; what determines that change of status?

Hamas fighters do not respect the rules of war - pull them into the circle jerk also.

Hitler would agree with you. Same thing happened to the Jews who decided to fight the Nazis from their ghettos in occupied-Poland. What did the Nazis do in response? Well, they raised the whole fucking place and killed about 20,000 Jews.

Such a shame the Jews didn't accept any of the many and various peace offerings the Nazi's made or else that sorry incident could have been avoided.

Schmuck.

Like going to Madagascar? Too bad indeed.

that's not a peace offering any more than forced marches of native americans. you can't be this dumb.
 

kylebisme

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Originally posted by: jonks
1. The US has done far worse and gets a little bit more of your tax dollars than Israel does. As an aside, you have zero say where your tax dollars go.
A two wrong make a right fallacy and flagrant contempt of democracy right out the gate. As you obviously don't even have the sense of shame to avoid starting your argument out with that, I see no reason to bother responding to the rest of it.
 

Dari

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Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
Originally posted by: Red Irish
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
I totaqlly agree with Netanyahu..100%!!!

On a side note what is disproportionate force in a war?? You play to win.....you don`t play to draw...lol

What do you expect to win, the Hitler Prize for extermination? You laugh out loud? You are as sick as the shameless leader you support. The heinous acts committed by Israel during its last excursion into the Gaza Strip are comparable to the worst war crimes committed in human history. Bombarding civilian areas is not war.

IDF propaganda at its worst.
When fighting is launched from civilian areas; what determines that change of status?

Hamas fighters do not respect the rules of war - pull them into the circle jerk also.

Hitler would agree with you. Same thing happened to the Jews who decided to fight the Nazis from their ghettos in occupied-Poland. What did the Nazis do in response? Well, they raised the whole fucking place and killed about 20,000 Jews.

Such a shame the Jews didn't accept any of the many and various peace offerings the Nazi's made or else that sorry incident could have been avoided.

Schmuck.

Like going to Madagascar? Too bad indeed.

that's not a peace offering any more than forced marches of native americans. you can't be this dumb.

They get to live, which is more than I can say for roughly 50% of European Jews after Hitler was done.

EDIT: But I'm sure offering 40% of the West Bank to Palestinians is considered reasonable for you, right?
 

jonks

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Originally posted by: kylebisme
Originally posted by: jonks
1. The US has done far worse and gets a little bit more of your tax dollars than Israel does. As an aside, you have zero say where your tax dollars go.
A two wrong make a right fallacy and flagrant contempt of democracy right out the gate. As you obviously don't even have the sense of shame to avoid starting your argument out with that, I see no reason to bother responding to the rest of it.

Aren't you still busy trying to debunk the "Official" 9/11 story? Sorry, truthers get no credibility as they've demonstrated a total lack of reason and judgment.
 

jonks

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Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
Originally posted by: Red Irish
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
I totaqlly agree with Netanyahu..100%!!!

On a side note what is disproportionate force in a war?? You play to win.....you don`t play to draw...lol

What do you expect to win, the Hitler Prize for extermination? You laugh out loud? You are as sick as the shameless leader you support. The heinous acts committed by Israel during its last excursion into the Gaza Strip are comparable to the worst war crimes committed in human history. Bombarding civilian areas is not war.

IDF propaganda at its worst.
When fighting is launched from civilian areas; what determines that change of status?

Hamas fighters do not respect the rules of war - pull them into the circle jerk also.

Hitler would agree with you. Same thing happened to the Jews who decided to fight the Nazis from their ghettos in occupied-Poland. What did the Nazis do in response? Well, they raised the whole fucking place and killed about 20,000 Jews.

Such a shame the Jews didn't accept any of the many and various peace offerings the Nazi's made or else that sorry incident could have been avoided.

Schmuck.

Like going to Madagascar? Too bad indeed.

that's not a peace offering any more than forced marches of native americans. you can't be this dumb.

They get to live, which is more than I can say for roughly 50% of European Jews after Hitler was done.

EDIT: But I'm sure offering 40% of the West Bank to Palestinians is considered reasonable for you, right?

I'm glad we've established the morality of your side. Also, I don't recall seeing this "offered" to Jews in Europe as an alternative to mass extinction. It was a plan the Nazis had, not one they sat down and negotiated out. And when it fell through, they went ahead with extinction.

Anyone drawing parallels between israel and the nazis is being ridiculous anyway, but I recall this from previous conversations with you in other threads.