Net Neutrality - Anand Tech support?

[Thebobo]

No pop up on Anandtech up in support of the battle for Net Neutrality?

https://www.battleforthenet.com/

 

[Jeff7]

Write your Congressman or favorite FCC official about it. Be sure to include at least $100k for your opinion to matter to them.

 

[acheron]

"net neutrality" is bullshit, so good for Anandtech.

 

[mmntech]

Yay, let's screw up our online economy for everyone so a couple of rich people can become slightly richer. Why if we don't act now, the board at Comcast might have to settle for a Learjet 60 instead of the brand new Learjet 85. It's slightly faster man! Anything less is just cruel and unusual punishment.

 

[_Rick_]

Net neutrality is something that only content providers should care about. They're rich enough to make sure it doesn't happen. Unless they're so rich, that if it happens, they think they'll come out ahead by paying off the wire mafia.

I still believe that the wires should not be private property of some corporation. Any critical infrastructure should be state owned and maintained, with the service on this infrastructure being up to private operators according to a common set of rules. Much like roads and traffic. That would allow a freer choice of service providers, since they can rent the wire from the state at a predetermined cost. I suppose private backbones could co-exist with federal backbones, much in the same way as private toll-roads co-exist with federal highways. There need to be pre-established buy-out clauses in place for the operating license to do so, in case the infrastructure agency determines a need exceeding the cost of the buy-out for the relevant bit of infrastructure. This prevents extortion either way, and lets the room open for private business to still make small profits in the area.

Of course, that's never going to happen

 

[dougp]

Regardless of your opinion, the sites that are "slowing down" only impact their users and make them pissed off - and we're the wrong people. Let's all be honest, very few times does it matter when you write your senator/representative and in the end, all these sites are doing is wasting our time. I was trying to watch a YouTube video yesterday and it kept doing that buffering shit - does YT really think I'm going to use those 30 second spots to email/write someone?

 

[dank69]

Regardless of your opinion, the sites that are "slowing down" only impact their users and make them pissed off - and we're the wrong people. Let's all be honest, very few times does it matter when you write your senator/representative and in the end, all these sites are doing is wasting our time. I was trying to watch a YouTube video yesterday and it kept doing that buffering shit - does YT really think I'm going to use those 30 second spots to email/write someone?

Worked for SOPA/PIPA

 

[dougp]

Worked for SOPA/PIPA

SOPA/PIPA had a much more national coverage, it was on the news. I've seen squat on the news in regards to net neutrality - hmm, wonder why.

Force someone to watch a video, or click through an ad - but if you effect my experience, fuck you and your "message."

 

[dank69]

SOPA/PIPA had a much more national coverage, it was on the news. I've seen squat on the news in regards to net neutrality - hmm, wonder why.

Force someone to watch a video, or click through an ad - but if you effect my experience, fuck you and your "message."

SOPA/PIPA was a low rumble on the internet until the big guns like wikipedia pulled similar stunts which resulted in congress being bombarded so much that in one day they all reversed position and killed the bills.

 

[Markbnj]

Write your Congressman or favorite FCC official about it. Be sure to include at least $100k for your opinion to matter to them.

Been awhile since you purchased a congressperson? The options have changed. $100k now only gets you the "we'll discuss this at the caucus meeting" option. If you want unqualified support it's going to run you a quarter million.

 

[dank69]

Been awhile since you purchased a congressperson? The options have changed. $100k now only gets you the "we'll discuss this at the caucus meeting" option. If you want unqualified support it's going to run you a quarter million.

You know what the one thing most congressmen like more than money? Getting re-elected.

 

[Markbnj]

You know what the one thing most congressmen like more than money? Getting re-elected.

Oh well, sure. If you bring a district to the table you can get almost anything you want. That includes sexual favors delivered in the coatroom.

 

[z1ggy]

You know what the one thing most congressmen like more than money? Getting re-elected.

And who pays for them to get re-elected to further their agendas? Oh.. large corporations and rich people you say..??? Hmmm, I'd have never guessed!!!

Most people are stupid sheeps who are going to vote for one idiot or another, mainly based on how many campaign commercials and baby kissing they can afford.

 

[BurnItDwn]

ISPs should only be allowed to advertise their slowwest speed. If they have 100mbit for some sites but 1mbit for others, then they are offering a 1mbit connection with some turbo features.

I agree with net neutrality, but in addition. ISPs need to be more transparent and honest in their advertisement/marketing.

People can have a good relationship with their ISP rather than it being like a "necessary evil" ...

 

[lupi]

Given how slow the AT forums load, thought they were all for these fast lane charges.

 

[DrPizza]

Thought to persuade your Congressman:

"If there isn't net neutrality, then an ISP could make your political ads and your website run realllly slow, unless YOU pay THEM. And, if they like someone who is competing with you, they can make their ads work a lot better." So, think about it - they pay you $10k this year to not force net neutrality, and then next year, they can demand $20k back from you to make your ads viewable to anyone getting their Internet services through them.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Sadly at this point it's not a question of trying to prevent them from slowing stuff down. The laws have already been passed and it's allowed now, hence why they're already doing it with Netflix. It's only going to get worse.

 

[dave_the_nerd]

Is mainpage down for everybody else?

 

[Jodell88]

Is mainpage down for everybody else?

It's down for me as well.

 

[Elixer]

No pop up on Anandtech up in support of the battle for Net Neutrality?

Have you checked the front page ? They are doing HUGE delays, so huge in fact, that you can't even get to the front page at this time, and you get back a 'The service is unavailable.' message.

 

[KeithP]

The FCC doesn't give a crap about any individuals. Sign all the petitions you want. Write letters, make phone calls. It is all a complete waste of time.

-KeithP

 

[poofyhairguy]

The FCC doesn't give a crap about any individuals. Sign all the petitions you want. Write letters, make phone calls. It is all a complete waste of time.

No shit. I heard an interview recently with Senator Al Franken where HE couldn't get through to them and HE felt like it was a lost cause. I thought "if they won't take calls from a freaking US Senator what good is a glorified website petition?"

Its like petitions.whitehouse.gov- fabricated communication "dead ends" so people who aren't empowered feel empowered.

 

[Jeff7]

SOPA/PIPA was a low rumble on the internet until the big guns like wikipedia pulled similar stunts which resulted in congress being bombarded so much that in one day they all reversed position and killed the bills.

Killed the bills? I figure that they'll either get renamed or will be worked into other laws one small piece at a time.
They're going to be implemented one way or another. There's just too much money to be made to let petty things like regulation or ethics interfere.

You know what the one thing most congressmen like more than money? Getting re-elected.

It's great when they complain about what a terribly hard job it is.

That must be why they will do absolutely anything it takes to stay in office, and spend a majority of their time working to that end.

ISPs should only be allowed to advertise their slowwest speed. If they have 100mbit for some sites but 1mbit for others, then they are offering a 1mbit connection with some turbo features.

I agree with net neutrality, but in addition. ISPs need to be more transparent and honest in their advertisement/marketing.

People can have a good relationship with their ISP rather than it being like a "necessary evil" ...

"Up to 25Mbps!*"

*- Probability of attaining maximum speed is statistically significant.

Thought to persuade your Congressman:

"If there isn't net neutrality, then an ISP could make your political ads and your website run realllly slow, unless YOU pay THEM. And, if they like someone who is competing with you, they can make their ads work a lot better." So, think about it - they pay you $10k this year to not force net neutrality, and then next year, they can demand $20k back from you to make your ads viewable to anyone getting their Internet services through them.

Remember when some wacko shot a politician in Arizona a few years ago? Some of them introduced legislation that would make it illegal to have a gun within some arbitrary distance of a politician. (So that they could focus on serving their country, etc etc.)


"I'll implement whatever you recommend, but I want special exemption for a few types of traffic."

 

[darkswordsman17]

You want to know what's fucked up? The FCC has been asking for people's opinions on things, and one of them is the Comcast-Time Warner merger. One politician had this to say about it:

“As the mayor of Whitehall Borough, Pennsylvania, and the president of the Pennsylvania State Mayors’ Association, I have had the opportunity to observe and interact with Comcast,” James Nowalk wrote to the FCC yesterday under the Mayors’ Association letterhead. “In my opinion, Comcast has been an exceptional corporate sponsor which has given substantial support to my municipality and mayoral association.”

He literally said they're great because they fucking pay him. And he's speaking as the official spokesperson for Pennsylvania Mayors.

Thought to persuade your Congressman:

"If there isn't net neutrality, then an ISP could make your political ads and your website run realllly slow, unless YOU pay THEM. And, if they like someone who is competing with you, they can make their ads work a lot better." So, think about it - they pay you $10k this year to not force net neutrality, and then next year, they can demand $20k back from you to make your ads viewable to anyone getting their Internet services through them.

Actually I think they'd love that because then it would absolutely be about money (it already is, what's the statistic about the candidate with the bigger spending winning percentage?).

Not only that but in their minds that is how it should work. You can pay and just get better service! That's just free market economics don'tcha know! Of course the big ISPs like to pretend that they're the ones that put in all the lines and everything else, even though they were often given monopoly power over markets, subsidies, and sometimes even outright paid to do that by the government (look at New Jersey and their fiber deal that Verizon gave up on and had them pass laws making it so they didn't actually have to contractually fulfill their obligation).

http://www.northjersey.com/news/bus...n-internet-service-dispute-1.1001159?page=all

If you read Ars, there's a near constant deluge of bullshit leaking out of the mouth of people that work for those big ISPs. At times it's so ridiculously transparently bullshit that I can't even believe they actually say some of it. They've become so accustomed to their market power that they realize they can say just about anything and still get away with it because fucking no one will actually do a damn thing about it.

 

[Thebobo]

A follow up on the results.

https://www.battleforthenet.com/sept10th/#infographic

Lots of interst and calls and messages to law makers