Nestle CEO: water is not a human right, should be privatized

[Moonbeam]

The right to life is the most important right we have, and that is why we take life away from those who murder. Since water is required for life the right to water is a human right and those who keep us from it will be executed too. The duty to provide water is a sacred command. You will kill for water just as sure as you will kill in self defense. Since we have a duty not to kill we have a duty not to do that which will get us killed.

Now this is how to really use your brain to lay down logic.

 

[BoberFett]

The problem is the few who waste it to massive degrees.

Keep it cheap, very cheap, for understandable use. 65 gals per day per person. Up the price substantially/extremely past 125 gallons per person per day.

Poor and middle class folks shouldn't be paying the price because a few folks have 5000+ square foot homes and huge lawns and want to play golf 3x a week on water wasting golf courses.

Average use is 150gallons a day per person in las Angeles county, typical median use per person is well below that, particularly for poorer families in smaller residence or multi family homes.

65 gallons per day at a public city well which people can use to fill up buckets?

What about someone who builds their home in the middle of nowhere? Is society obligated to run pipes to their home or build them a well?

 

[1prophet]

I always love seeing the argument about what is and what is not a human right. Human rights are whatever we want them to be.

Kinda like 2 wolves and a sheep deciding whats for dinner?

 

[fskimospy]

Kinda like 2 wolves and a sheep deciding whats for dinner?

No, just that nature and the universe doesn't recognize any rights for anyone. Such things are a human construct, so naturally we decide what they are.

 

[master_shake_]

Good luck trying to figure out how to charge people for collecting rain water.

http://rt.com/usa/rain-water-harrington-oregon-439/

seems pretty easy to me anyway.

unless you meant monetarily.

 

[Moonbeam]

God damn you idiots. How fucking thick can you be?

Human rights are eternal absolutes encoded in the fabric of our being. We were created in the image of God and God is that beyond which we can't imagine a greater perfection. Do you seriously think that God didn't put a sense of justice in your genes? Well maybe if you're a sociopath, but at least 85% of the human race is born with an innate sense of empathy. Even monkeys understand the concept of what is fair and know when they are getting a raw deal. Knock off this rights are subjective shit. The sense of fairness is built in. You don't know who the fuck you are. God damned dunces.

 

[BoberFett]

God damn you idiots. How fucking thick can you be?

Human rights are eternal absolutes encoded in the fabric of our being. We were created in the image of God and God is that beyond which we can't imagine a greater perfection. Do you seriously think that God didn't put a sense of justice in your genes? Well maybe if you're a sociopath, but at least 85% of the human race is born with an innate sense of empathy. Even monkeys understand the concept of what is fair and know when they are getting a raw deal. Knock off this rights are subjective shit. The sense of fairness is built in. You don't know who the fuck you are. God damned dunces.

Take your pills, nutjob.

 

[HumblePie]

According to my wife, Cola-Cao is better than all other chocolate drinks.

 

[zinfamous]

Water isn't a human right.

But guns are?

:hmm:

 

[SandEagle]

God damn you idiots. How fucking thick can you be?

Human rights are eternal absolutes encoded in the fabric of our being. We were created in the image of God and God is that beyond which we can't imagine a greater perfection. Do you seriously think that God didn't put a sense of justice in your genes? Well maybe if you're a sociopath, but at least 85% of the human race is born with an innate sense of empathy. Even monkeys understand the concept of what is fair and know when they are getting a raw deal. Knock off this rights are subjective shit. The sense of fairness is built in. You don't know who the fuck you are. God damned dunces.

this is why i love you. :wub:

/selfhate

 

[nehalem256]

But guns are?

:hmm:

You have the right to keep and bare arms. The government is not obligated to provide you with a gun.

Likewise. You have the right to keep and bare water. But such a think is so unbelievably obvious that no one is ever bothered to declare it a right.

Just like no one has ever talked about a right to wear clothes.

 

[BoberFett]

But guns are?

:hmm:

Surely you're smarter than that comment.

Who said they are? I don't see anybody petitioning to have the government provide free weapons to everyone. What is a right is not to be disarmed by your government.

 

[zinfamous]

Surely you're smarter than that comment.

Maybe. Maybe not. (you know the rest)

 

[hal2kilo]

You have the right to keep and bare arms. The government is not obligated to provide you with a gun.

Likewise. You have the right to keep and bare water. But such a think is so unbelievably obvious that no one is ever bothered to declare it a right.

Just like no one has ever talked about a right to wear clothes.

The right should be to be naked.

 

[BoberFett]

The right should be to be naked.

You know what Americans look like these days don't you? Rights aren't unlimited, we definitely need licenses to be naked, and waiting periods. Let's stay safe and sane here...

 

[GaiaHunter]

Collection of water and transportation of it can be privatized.

Governments have the exclusive of violence and in this case they have the right to send armed individuals exercise violence over those collecting and transporting water if their citizens don't have access to water either because it is too expensive (price of it way over the cost of collecting it and/or transport it and/or maintenance costs) and/or it is being transported elsewhere.

Free market will work in some situations/geographical areas and it will not work in others.

Governments should fight any type of monopolies - that is why they have the monopoly of violence.

 

[SheHateMe]

Says the guy who contributes absolutely nothing to society and lives at home leeching off of his parents.

I was not aware of this. From now on, I won't take Nehalem seriously.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Let me see if I can find that article about the marijuana growers in CA diverting water. That one really riles up the troops.

Not as much fun as poking at 'bud' fans, but:

Bottled water companies using water from drought areas.

http://www.theatlantic.com/technolo...ornia-which-doesnt-have-much-to-spare/375882/

 

[nehalem256]

The right should be to be naked.

If Hillary Clinton, Elizabeth Warren, and Nancy Pelosi want to run on a platform of nude rights I say let them.

And I will look forward to the inevitable Republican majority

 

[Moonbeam]

Take your pills, nutjob.

Says the wizard who asks, "Is society obligated to run pipes to their home or build them a well, for somebody who builds in the middle of nowhere?

 

[norseamd]

At least drink some real chocolate milk.

 

[Olikan]

Collection of water and transportation of it can be privatized.

Governments should fight any type of monopolies - that is why they have the monopoly of violence.

errr... there is no way to allow a fair competition of water transportation, once a straight line pump is build from A to B, no other pump can match the first

but concessions can work :ninja:

 

[Knowing]

If you walk in to Death Valley, CA...
You retain your right to free speech,
you retain your right to legally carry firearms,
you retain your right to not have soldiers quartered in your home...
In this scenario what happens to your right to water?

 

[norseamd]

Yep.

If you bring your own water with you.

Also water is the property of the citizens and thus needs to be owned and utilized by the government. Just like all of our utilities need to be run by the government.

 

[Moonbeam]

If you walk in to Death Valley, CA...
You retain your right to free speech,
you retain your right to legally carry firearms,
you retain your right to not have soldiers quartered in your home...
In this scenario what happens to your right to water?

All I know is that if you don't retain your right to drink you won't have any of those other rights either. But don't ask such hard questions, please.