Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Well 2200 civilians died in the first Gulf War and most estimates are putting this one far passed that and the conflict is still raging on. In one month alone, 3200 civilians were estimated dead. The first war didn't even have any significant city fighting. This is according to an established AP investigation, not some crazy group.
But those civilians that died had no business to be living on earth.
Yes, that's the way - put words in my mouth to make me look like an uncaring bastard. Every civilian that dies is a tragedy, of that no one will argue. I asked for verification regarding the actual number of civilian casualties - does that make me some sort of war criminal?
Originally posted by: Sultan
I never read of a Red Cross attack. Perhaps you would enlighten me. The UN is not a humanitarian organization though it achieves the objective to some degree via other departments. The UN's role has never been a humanitarian one.
Wow? The UN and its forces worldwide provide more humanitarian support than anyone except perhaps the Red Cross (possibly more).
So if it becomes a theocracy, whats your problem? The 140000 trigger happy soldiers blowing money? Thats a new one. Is that when they were developing the pictures of torturing inmates at Abu Gharib at Baghdad's Walmart? I am yet to see when the "billions" of dollars pledged for infrastructure development will be put into use. I also think the insurgents have made their opinion clear. I also think 1000 coffins back to the United States also proves a point.
This makes me question your claims that you're Iraqi at all. If you were, you would know the problem with theocracies, as you'd be familiar with Iran. Any nation with a large military and only 'the Word of God' as a driving force is inherently unstable and a threat to its neighbors.
Your generalization of our troops isn't worth commenting on. The insurgents are a small portion of the Iraqi people, not the majority. If you think Iraq could do a better job rebuilding its infrastructure than can we, as I said, merely prove this to the relevant officials and we'll be more than happy to take our $87 billion, plus $25 billion over the next x months, and be on our merry way. There is nothing that would make America happier than getting out of Iraq. Unfortunately, it is beyond naive to believe that Iraq could stand on its own two legs at this point.
Yes, I agree, there is no justification to killing, even if it is for Power and Money. 
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