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Neighbor's dog killed our cat

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Adul said:
Oh man, I feel for you on that. Our cat of 18 years died outside to a dog. Our yard at the time back up to a golf course so you can see through the fence. Well, our cat was chilling on the other side when the dog attacked and killed him 🙁. I still have images of the cat twitching in his end.
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That just sucks. 🙁
 
my first inclination when I came in was that this dog should be put down, but after reading more posts I am more on the fence about it. some people say it now has a "taste for blood" and I kinda feel that way also. I love dogs. But really, some dogs are just too big and hard to control to be in an urban/suburban environment *unless they are extremely well trained and controlled by the owner* (and honestly, this is rarely the case).

I'm a pretty big and strong dude (and humble!) and I really dont like animals that I feel I cant fully control...rotts and pitbulls fall into that category when fully grown. JMO, of course.

speaking of which, my brother actually owns a wolf. a full on wolf. (actually its somewhat of a movie star, the wolf's howls were literally recorded for the twilight movie series). he adopted it from a wolf sanctuary. the thing is essentially uncontrollable and I feel very uncomfortable when around it. I just dont like things that could turn on me and leave me unable to defend myself. I dont want those things around me. thats not crazy, is it?
 
Raduque said:
You're still a dipshit. The DOG needs to be controlled too.
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If the dog must be contained, shouldn't the cat be as well?

Failure to do both leaves nature to run its course.

Do we really want communities to enact laws against dogs to protect outdoor cats?
 
Jaskalas said:
If the dog must be contained, shouldn't the cat be as well?

Failure to do both leaves nature to run its course.

Do we really want communities to enact laws against dogs to protect outdoor cats?
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Of course the cat needs to be restrained. However, here's one way to look at it. The cat was on property, the dog wasn't. Imagine having a dog fenced it, it's unrestricted on your property so anything that happens there is OK because it IS restricted to the property by a fence. This is fine in 99.9% of all communities.

Now we have a cat, unrestricted but on it's own property. Shouldn't that be OK as well? The dog entered the OP's property because it wasn't restricted to it's property. That's bad, in a board general sense.

OP took chances by having an indoor/outdoor cat. His bad.
Neighbor took chances by having an unrestricted dog. His bad.

Neither are right, however the dog entered the cat's yard. That's an additional problem.

Now, look at the fact the dog killed another animal because it wasn't restricted. I expect animal control would have something to say about this regardless if the cat was restricted or not.

If the cat was killing other people's animals, they would have similar things to say, but that just isn't the case here. People don't really own the types of things outdoor cats kill (wild birds, wild rodents, etc.)
 
1. The study that showed '4 billion' animals killed by cats is pretty flawed.
2. Most animals killed by cats are ground based, rodents and other PESTS.
3. Cats WERE DOMESTICATED TO KILL THESE PESTS.
4. Shorty trolled me 🙁
 
Wow, leave it to the internet to make me feel pretty good about living on the same street as a guy whose dog kills our cat instead of having some of the people on here for a neighbor. lol

I'm not going off the deep end, either way. The dog is not aggressive to people. In fact, he's quite wary of people and tries to steer clear of them. If you just talk at him or move toward him, he runs away toward home. I told the guy we wouldn't file a complaint over this, but that he's used-up our good will toward looking the other way when the dog is roaming around the neighborhood without supervision, we'll start calling animal control from now on. He understood and agreed.

As far as feeding stray cats, feral and stray are not the same thing. Most of the cats that have come around for food have been abandoned or dumped, not born or raised in the wild. A feral cat will not approach you and certainly will not let you pet it on the first or second night that you feed it. I've tamed a few ferals but it took a couple weeks for them to let you get close enough just to stroke them a little bit.

Either way, feeding them doesn't create them. We have a crazy cat lady about 3/4 mile away, who not only feeds probably 20 ~ 30 cats at any given time, but does nothing to help control the population by spaying. We spay several cats every year out of our own pocket. Whenever we find kittens, we catch them and turn them into a cat rescue. She just lets them grow-up to reproduce more.

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tcsenter said:
Wow, leave it to the internet to make me feel pretty good about living on the same street as a guy whose dog kills our cat instead of having some of the people on here for a neighbor. lol

I'm not going off the deep end, either way. The dog is not aggressive to people. In fact, he's quite wary of people and tries to steer clear of them. If you just talk at him or move toward him, he runs away toward home. I told the guy we wouldn't file a complaint over this, but that he's used-up our good will toward looking the other way when the dog is roaming around the neighborhood without supervision, we'll start calling animal control from now on. He understood and agreed.

As far as feeding stray cats, feral and stray are not the same thing. Most of the cats that have come around for food have been abandoned or dumped, not born or raised in the wild. A feral cat will not approach you and certainly will not let you pet it on the first or second night that you feed it. I've tamed a few ferals but it took a couple weeks for them to let you get close enough just to stroke them a little bit.

Either way, feeding them doesn't create them. We have a crazy cat lady about 3/4 mile away, who not only feeds probably 20 ~ 30 cats at any given time, but does nothing to help control the population by spaying. We spay several cats every year out of our own pocket. Whenever we find kittens, we catch them and turn them into a cat rescue. She just lets them grow-up to reproduce more.

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The lady above is exactly the kind of nuisance I am speaking of. Obviously there is an infestation (no offense to the cats themselves) in your neighborhood and you're helping the best way you know how. I applaud it.

The dog owner's blame is also not in doubt but the people here talking about killing the dog are just stupid. Killing prey is as natural an instinct to a dog as mating. Even cats bring home prey!
 
SheHateMe said:
Yes, the dog did the neighborhood a favor by getting free, going into someone else's yard and killing an animal that you say has killed other animals...but you don't have proof of this.
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it killed a cat that by some definition is a pest... and from further posts by the OP, their neighborhood has a feral/stray cat problem.

I have seen a push in states to open up hunting on feral cats (Wisconsin for example).

Those talking about the death of this dog obviously haven't seen hoards of stray cats around. I live a little ways out of town with a salvage yard not too far from me. one owner would put out food and water for the cats... HUNDREDS of them. Like giant mice...pissing, defecating, mating, bedding just like mice. They would come up to the food bowls by the dozens. Absolutely disgusting animals.

At least a dog has the decency to go outside to take pinch a loaf rather than in some box next to my bed. I am sorry, cats are no better than mice

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for the record, we had cats around our home growing up. usually one or two outside cats. Our neighbors black lab ripped one of those cats open from @ss to throat in my front yard..... we simply buried it. by the following week, we had another random out door cat take its place. No sleep lost on my part, never discussed it with the dog owner, definitely didn't feel the need to post about it on a tech forum
 
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At my moms house the guy that lives behind her has two Rottweilers. They have a 20 year old fence. Dog busts through the fence and charges my mom 72 years old with two fake knees. She falls trying to run and gets bit twice. I put the owner down!!!

Not a tough guy but he was a ass. Pushed me past that spot where I think straight. You have a dog like that you had better secure it and be prepared.
 
Lol at the Dog not being allowed to roam but the cat is.
He got what he deserved.
How many birds and other animals has the cat killed in the same way?

And no, Cats are not indigenous here.
 
Wow that sucks. 🙁 Sorry for your loss. That must have been a very graphic heart breaking image to see.

Guess that is a hard lesson on not letting your cat go outside.

And yeah that dog should also be on a leash. The neighbor is lucky it was "just" a cat and not a kid. Had it been a kid he would be drowning in lawsuits and legal battles and the dog would probably be killed which would be unfortunate since it's not the dog's fault.
 
Terrible news. That dog & the owner are bad news. Unless drastic changes are made, the situation is destined to repeat itself.

Even though the owner made an attempt to make things right, it was too little, too late. Should've never happened in the first damn place.
 
tcsenter said:
Wow, leave it to the internet to make me feel pretty good about living on the same street as a guy whose dog kills our cat instead of having some of the people on here for a neighbor. lol

I'm not going off the deep end, either way. The dog is not aggressive to people. In fact, he's quite wary of people and tries to steer clear of them. If you just talk at him or move toward him, he runs away toward home. I told the guy we wouldn't file a complaint over this, but that he's used-up our good will toward looking the other way when the dog is roaming around the neighborhood without supervision, we'll start calling animal control from now on. He understood and agreed.

As far as feeding stray cats, feral and stray are not the same thing. Most of the cats that have come around for food have been abandoned or dumped, not born or raised in the wild. A feral cat will not approach you and certainly will not let you pet it on the first or second night that you feed it. I've tamed a few ferals but it took a couple weeks for them to let you get close enough just to stroke them a little bit.

Either way, feeding them doesn't create them. We have a crazy cat lady about 3/4 mile away, who not only feeds probably 20 ~ 30 cats at any given time, but does nothing to help control the population by spaying. We spay several cats every year out of our own pocket. Whenever we find kittens, we catch them and turn them into a cat rescue. She just lets them grow-up to reproduce more.

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That is totally sig worthy! Thanks!
 
Kill that rott on sight.
I was attacked by a rottweiler. Messed me up good.
Damn near 20 years later & it's rare that I go anywhere without at least a blade on me.
 
Red Squirrel said:
Had it been a kid he would be drowning in lawsuits and legal battles and the dog would probably be killed which would be unfortunate since it's not the dog's fault.
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When I was attacked by the rott, I was angry. I wanted it to die. I was informed that it was going to be put down.
Months later I found out it was shipped off for security guard duty.
Fine with me. I got paid like a motherfucker thanks to the mess that dog put me through. Unfortunately, I was such a mess, I ended up wasting my money & pissing it all away because I had no idea of a sense of direction.
 
Some breeds of dog really are more innately aggressive and dangerous than other breeds. This should be outrageously obvious to anyone.

Golden retriever as compared to pit bull? Anyone who would dare to say to me with a straight face that these two breeds are identically aggressive, well... let me just tip my hat to that man and his incredible mastery of self-deception.

And yes, this is true of human races too. Some are more innately aggressive.

Anyone who comes back with "but I knew a guy..." or "but I had a dog..." doesn't understand averages.
 
tcsenter said:
Wow, leave it to the internet to make me feel pretty good about living on the same street as a guy whose dog kills our cat instead of having some of the people on here for a neighbor. lol

I'm not going off the deep end, either way. The dog is not aggressive to people. In fact, he's quite wary of people and tries to steer clear of them. If you just talk at him or move toward him, he runs away toward home. I told the guy we wouldn't file a complaint over this, but that he's used-up our good will toward looking the other way when the dog is roaming around the neighborhood without supervision, we'll start calling animal control from now on. He understood and agreed.

As far as feeding stray cats, feral and stray are not the same thing. Most of the cats that have come around for food have been abandoned or dumped, not born or raised in the wild. A feral cat will not approach you and certainly will not let you pet it on the first or second night that you feed it. I've tamed a few ferals but it took a couple weeks for them to let you get close enough just to stroke them a little bit.

Either way, feeding them doesn't create them. We have a crazy cat lady about 3/4 mile away, who not only feeds probably 20 ~ 30 cats at any given time, but does nothing to help control the population by spaying. We spay several cats every year out of our own pocket. Whenever we find kittens, we catch them and turn them into a cat rescue. She just lets them grow-up to reproduce more.

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Sorry about your cat, it was a regrettable situation. That guy should absolutely have his dog on a leash, certainly not roaming the damn neighborhood. Hell, our neighbor's dog was IN our backyard yesterday because they don't give two shits about it, and it's such a tiny, ratty terrier thing it was able to get between the bars in the fence. They're lucky one of our smaller dogs chased it off, if the 115 lb ridgeback had known about it, things might have ended different.
 
Geosurface said:
Some breeds of dog really are more innately aggressive and dangerous than other breeds. This should be outrageously obvious to anyone.

Golden retriever as compared to pit bull? Anyone who would dare to say to me with a straight face that these two breeds are identically aggressive, well... let me just tip my hat to that man and his incredible mastery of self-deception.

And yes, this is true of human races too. Some are more innately aggressive.

Anyone who comes back with "but I knew a guy..." or "but I had a dog..." doesn't understand averages.
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Of course. But ANY breed of dog can be a great dog, Pit Bulls and Rottweilers included. You just need to know how to properly train and socialize your dog.

Good starter dog if you don't know what you are doing? Golden retriever, lab, pug, etc.

Good dog if you do know what you're doing? Any breed.

No dog breed is a bad breed. Some are just poor matches for certain owners. Unfortunately, Pit Bulls are one of those breeds that you should have some experience before getting but most of the owners don't know what they are doing.

Same problem with German Shepherds in the 80's. A lot of owners not knowing what they are doing so they got known as an "aggressive breed". They really aren't with the proper training and socialization. Just some dogs aren't "plug and play".
 
datalink7 said:
Of course. But ANY breed of dog can be a great dog, Pit Bulls and Rottweilers included. You just need to know how to properly train and socialize your dog.
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Yea, well a pit bull or rottweiler would work well as a farm dog, where it only came into contact with one family... perhaps.

Owning them in densely populated areas seems to lead to a lot of problems in a lot of cases.

An individual dog from an aggressive breed can be less aggressive, just innately... and raising it a certain way can help. But given the number who are bungling this... I just wish these breeds didn't exist.
 
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