Neighbors calling the cops for no reason

slickcat

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Rewind to a week ago on Monday. A guy down the road from me (5 or 6 houses down) came over and accused my fiance of speeding past his house and endangering the lives of his grandkids. My fiance and I never exceed the speed limit for our subdivision because there are so many kids around that could dart out in the road and get hit. The kids that he is referring to routinely play in the road and cause a hazard for people driving through the subdivision. I have slowed down to 5 miles and hour and even had to stop in some instances because his grandkids will run out into the road or throw things into the road in front of the car.

When the guy came over to confront my fiance on her driving he didn't even talk to her he was yelling the whole time so loud that I could hear him in the living room of our brick house and they were in the backyard and our living room is at the front of our house. From what my fiance told me he threatened to call the cops next time she drove by his house and he thought she was speeding. I was sick with the flu so I could not go out and join in the conversation but needless to say it really upset my fiance because she did nothing wrong but follow the posted speed limit for our subdivision.

Yesterday 10/26/04

Our neighbor called the cops on us because he said once again that my fiance was speeding by his house. She never ever goes over the posted 25 mph speed limit. She even does under that 15-20mph since he said he would call the cops if he thought she was speeding. My fiance said that she was watching her speedometer as she passed his house because of the problems we've been having with him and she didn't even come close to going over 25.

The cop shows up and starts pounding on the door. My fiance goes out to speak with him since he doesn't want to talk to me he wants to talk to her. He proceeds to tell her that the neighbor called him and he's received several complaints from the neighbors of this guy saying that she was speeding down the road. (I know for a fact she wasn't because we just had a conversation the day before saying that we're going to go 5 mph under the speed limit just to avoid problems with this guy.) She tells the cop all of this and he doesn't believe her. He believes the guy down the road because he is older than us. (I'm 24 and she's 22 and he has to be in his late 50's) The cop tells my fiance that the next time he gets a call he is going to write her up for wreckless driving and endangerment. The cops have never came out and actually saw anything they are just going by what this neighbor is saying. Is there any truth to this? Can they write her a ticket even though they don't actually see her doing anything wrong? Is there anything we can do about the neighbors false accusations? It's going to keep getting worse and worse and I really think they are doing this to try and force us out of the neighborhood.

I am just sick of my fiance getting accused of things she's not doing. The guy needs to keep his kids out of the street and let the police take care of the law enforcement since he has no idea how fast 25mph actually is.

Added Cliff notes:

1. neighbor comes over yelling at my fiance for speeding but has no proof she was speeding and she wasn't since she always does the speed limit in our subdivision because there are so many kids around playing

2. neighbor calls the cops and the cops come over and threaten my fiance with a wreckless driving/endangerment ticket that she will have to go to court for on charges for speeding but produces no proof and does not even catch my fiance speeding. He is going on the word of one neighbor 5-6 houses down and his group of friends that live next to him.
 

GasX

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can they write the ticket? yes. Will you win if you fight it in court? yes.

Report him to child welfare...
 

Kelemvor

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Cops can't make a ticket stick if there's no proof that anything was done wrong. I'd call the police station and talk to a supervisor and let them know how one of their officers threatened you and made rude remarks accusing you of breaking the law when you did nothing wrong.

If you really want to get fancy, stick a camcorder in the car aimed at the spedometer and then when they come in saying you were speeding, you can say hmm, let's watch the tape...
 

lancestorm

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Personally, I'd videotape it somehow. Showing her following the speed and yet kids are around the street, etc.

He should be in trouble for endangerment of children!
 

mrCide

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he cant write a ticket just because someone said yo uwere speeding, im no expert but im pretty sure of this.
 

slickcat

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The cop actually suggested that she take another way to get to our house (which would be almost a mile out of the way.) or slow down to 10-15 mph when going down our road to our house. It's a small town so I don't know how much would get done if we called and complained that the officer was threatening her with a wreckless driving ticket with no proof other than the neighbors word. I'm just trying to avoid harassment by both the neighbor and the cops. We keep to ourselves for the most part and just don't want any trouble with our neighbors.
 

hg321

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Originally posted by: dabuddha
You should get a video tape of his grandkids playing in the street.

Then they would call the police and say he is a pervert
 

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isn't the burden of proof ON the accuser??

you can't just go around accusing people of things without SOME evidence other than "i saw him/her do it"

what kind of fvcking moron cop does stupid stuff like that? i guess that's redundant as a moron cop by definition would do stupid stuff. ;)
 

Cogman

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You ask the police for a list of complaints, And if he dares come to your house with a ticket and no observations of his own you take that ticket, the police, and the nieghbor to court. The Police should not use Hersay as a way to enforce law. The nieghbor should have several witnesses that are not in the family to make a valid complaint. If nothing happens their you contact the chief of police or the guy above that cop and file a complaint about the situation.
 

vegetation

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Originally posted by: lancestorm
Personally, I'd videotape it somehow. Showing her following the speed and yet kids are around the street, etc.

He should be in trouble for endangerment of children!


I'd videotape and let him report it in again. You'll then have proof he's making intentionally false police reports, which is a crime in itself.
 

slickcat

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Originally posted by: hg321
Originally posted by: dabuddha
You should get a video tape of his grandkids playing in the street.

Then they would call the police and say he is a pervert

With my luck as bad as it is with these kinds of things I wouldn't put that outside the realm of possibility.
 

Tiamat

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Thats bull shit, no proof!! Guilty before being proven innocent? :frown: If you have a camcorder or something, record it - no way you could lose.
 

slickcat

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Originally posted by: Cogman
You ask the police for a list of complaints, And if he dares come to your house with a ticket and no observations of his own you take that ticket, the police, and the nieghbor to court. The Police should not use Hersay as a way to enforce law. The nieghbor should have several witnesses that are not in the family to make a valid complaint. If nothing happens their you contact the chief of police or the guy above that cop and file a complaint about the situation.

From what I understand the cop said that he's had several complaints from people around the main guy doing the complaining. He gets his friends in on the complaining even though he's always the only guy standing outside when she drives by. He waits for me to get out of work and stands on his front porch everyday glaring at me. He's just trying to cause problems for us.
 

Tremulant

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I'd say record it. When you pass by, show the camera at the speedo and then at the house as you're passing.

Oh, that guy and the cops are assholes.
 

slickcat

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Originally posted by: mobobuff
Post his phone number.

sadly I don't have his #. I don't even know the guys name. He just came over and started yelling didn't even speak to her just got mad and then called the cops.
 

mcvickj

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I'd tell the guy to stick it where the sun doesn't shine. Flaming poo bag anyone? ;) It sounds like he is just being an ass. Is this the first time you have had a problem with this neighbor? Using a camcorder is a nice idea but he would probably say you taped one incident of your fiance going slow vs. the other times she was speeding. Perhaps the best way is for you to confront him and see if he will be civil about this matter.
 

zixxer

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Originally posted by: slickcat
Originally posted by: Cogman
You ask the police for a list of complaints, And if he dares come to your house with a ticket and no observations of his own you take that ticket, the police, and the nieghbor to court. The Police should not use Hersay as a way to enforce law. The nieghbor should have several witnesses that are not in the family to make a valid complaint. If nothing happens their you contact the chief of police or the guy above that cop and file a complaint about the situation.

From what I understand the cop said that he's had several complaints from people around the main guy doing the complaining. He gets his friends in on the complaining even though he's always the only guy standing outside when she drives by. He waits for me to get out of work and stands on his front porch everyday glaring at me. He's just trying to cause problems for us.

I'd tell them all to fsck off. Go past his house at 25mph on the DOT. Lean on the horn the whole way down the road as to warn his little brats that you're on your way.


There was a guy in my old neighborhood who claimed I was speeding through the neighborhood. He followed me into my driveway and started yelling, I told him to go fsck himself and called the cops. (he was actually mad because I passed him while he was stopped talking to a passer-by...)
 

zixxer

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Originally posted by: mcvickj
...Perhaps the best way is for you to confront him and see if he will be civil about this matter.

More likely than not he's an ornery old man with NOTHING BETTER TO DO.

While I respect our elderly, I swear, some are just as bad as little kids.



Not to mention that cop is the epitomy of why I hate cops.
 

mobobuff

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The solution for that is... every time you or your wife is suspected to drive past there, get it on film, preferably not from inside the car, you'd hafta film each other. And make sure you state the date and time for every pass (so it's recorded too). So if he DOES call in for the ticket, you have undeniable proof of innocence to take it to court.
 

rudder

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Originally posted by: slickcat
The cop tells my fiance that the next time he gets a call he is going to write her up for wreckless driving and endangerment.


Tell the cop Shens.