Neera Tanden Looks to be Rejected to her OMB Appointment

[MrSquished]

Neera also sent a tweet criticizing a pharma CEO who jacked up EpiPen prices by 400% while making nearly 20 million dollars in a year. That pharma exec? Joe Manchin's daughter.

 

[cytg111]

Neera also sent a tweet criticizing a pharma CEO who jacked up EpiPen prices by 400% while making nearly 20 million dollars in a year. That pharma exec? Joe Manchin's daughter.

Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa mn.

 

[cytg111]

Get some kompromat on Joe Manchin and make him a bitch.

 

[ElFenix]

Neera also sent a tweet criticizing a pharma CEO who jacked up EpiPen prices by 400% while making nearly 20 million dollars in a year. That pharma exec? Joe Manchin's daughter.

where is the rage posrep button when you need it?

 

[MrSquished]

Neera Tanden Once Criticized Joe Manchin's Pharma CEO Daughter

Joe Manchin is one of several senators to publicly state opposition to Neera Tanden's nomination to be director of the Office of Management and Budget.

www.newsweek.com

 

[Vic]

I can only imagine the folks compiled in this video are the likes of every single one that is here valiantly defending a corrupt politician strictly based on their gender heh Keep on keeping on with your ignorance - as if calling out one individual for individual acts is something that should never be tolerated based on something entirely unrelated.

But heey, since you seemed to inquire, I'm married with 2 kids So - not quite in a basement like the rest of the white knights here.

No one here defended any politician strictly based on their gender. That's something you made up to disguise the fact that you're attacking a politician strictly based on their gender.

Serious question: are you really stupid enough to believe that people don't see right through your bullshit, or are you just trolling?

 

[Amused]

 

[nickqt]

You embarrass yourself.

Here I describe Republicans attacking a Democrat, and basically trying to Cancel them. Using the permanence of every single word on the internet to comb through every letter of the alphabet, every number, and every dot until they find something someone said that not only displeases them... but may also be used by stirring up the naivety and using public "opinion" to go after targets. It is a method, creating a consensus of the outraged, to politically assassinate people for ANY reason. Whether it is cause they didn't register a pronoun or because they are a political appointee.

It is all just tribal warfare. Without meaning or purpose. Just destruction for destruction's sake. Tell me you're not claiming there is only one side to this conflict. To these methods. !@#$, next I'll tell you water is wet and you'll piss yourself with your Bothsides sthick while you insinuate that Democrats never touched water.

The denial carried by multiple posters here, that there isn't a fight being waged across this nation, is droll repetitive rubbish. Is that level of discourse, or lackthereof, all you have to offer? Quotes like that do make me question whether words still hold any meaning between Americans. And, by extension, forums like this by which to convey them. If my message you replied to can be summarized as "I think this is getting out of hand", I might take your reply to mean "let's turn up the heat".

What, do we just speak separate languages now? That's not going to help prevent Americans from killing one another.

So, BothSidesDoIt™.

Got it.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

If anyone wants to dispel the myth of the "Deep State", the classic work in examining the sociology of large government agencies is a book written by Anthony Downs under contract with RAND Corporation and the Air Force, entitled "Inside Bureaucracy". Then, study a time in history and a government agency wherein there were actual elements of the myth: the first 15 years of the CIA after the 1947 National Security Act. People became clinically paranoid in their jobs: for instance, James Jesus Angleton, or Frank Wisner, Sr. There was an unwritten rule during the 1950s that secret operations should not find expression in writing or print. So the Company lost track of certain projects when Wisner retired as result of a nervous breakdown. The moral of the story rests on the notion of "Disclosure".

Now, that being said, there are two types among all useful types of bureaucrats of interest to this brief discussion. There are "program advocates", and there are technocrats. An advocate might be someone with experience teaching high-school hired to do program evaluation of a national education program. Technocrat is my catch-all for people with cross-disciplinary business skills: accounting, budgeting, statistics, information systems and so on. Of course, we can discard the Trumper myth of a need for a "Bidnissman" in the White House. There is a vast army of people in government trained in business disciplines such as those I cited. These were precisely the people Trump wouldn't listen to, just as he failed to listen to professionals in the national security apparatus -- CIA, DOD, NSA and so forth.

All that being said, it would be worthwhile to re-examine the qualifications of OMB Directors -- excluding Trump's, who were no-nothing idiots -- in all prior administrations. For instance, Reagan had David Stockman. Who were the others?

I like Neera Tanden. She has offered useful perspectives as a guest-pundit in the media. She's a smart woman. Somehow, though, I imagine that she's more of a "Program Advocate" type. But personally, I think that I myself am more qualified to be OMB Director, except that I'm too old and have familial responsibilities which would rule out the possibility. Further, like Lt. Col. Vindman according to an assessment given by Fiona Hill, I don't have the "political antennae". Neera Tanden has the political antennae.

OMB will continue to function better than it did with Trump in the White House, even for appointing Neera Tanden and having her confirmed.

I'll tell ya what the priority should be, though.

Get DeJoy out of the job for being "Postmaster General"!

Trump and his criminal associates had one, single covert goal for DeJoy's actions last year -- that is, a goal in addition to sabotaging mail-in voting. USPS had invested a lot of money over the years building and acquiring those mail-sorting machines, just as they'd invested a lot of money over a longer period of time in their information system and other aspects. This gives USPS certain economies-of-scale and efficiencies of which Fed-Ex, UPS and others have less or equal.

DeJoy wants to destroy our postal service -- an institution that goes back two centuries.

They need to put him up against a wall on Christmas Day and shoot him in front of his kids and his fan-club.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

More facts that dont care about your feelings.

Note the tribal and literal cult-like gatherings you have here where anyone who speaks otherwise will be tarred and feathered.

@Muse @MtnMan @KMFJD @IronWing @HomerJS @sportage As progressives all of you should be valiantly against this fucking imbecile - but to see you valiantly white-knighting and defending her is rather comical and hilarious. The hypocrisy is hilarious.

I can literally see and tell the number of you that are afraid to speak out against against Neera - you're scared t hat your fellow lefties will ostracize you. How does that feel? Do you think that gives you free speech or do you feel that limits you?

You have called out two members who haven't even posted in this thread. That is an infraction, and not to be repeated.

Perknose
Forum Director

 

[Perknose]

I like Neera Tanden. [...] But personally, I think that I myself am more qualified to be OMB Director, except that I'm too old and have familial responsibilities which would rule out the possibility.

I would be interested to have you document your qualifications here. For I, too, feel I am more qualified, except for being too old and having little to no relevant expertise or experience. Other than that . . .

 

[Ajay]

Neera Tanden Once Criticized Joe Manchin's Pharma CEO Daughter

Joe Manchin is one of several senators to publicly state opposition to Neera Tanden's nomination to be director of the Office of Management and Budget.

www.newsweek.com

Oh geez. So it's personal. Fuck it I guess. Unless the ever vacillating Murkoski changes her mind, it's game over.

 

[dawp]

well, Joe can always pull a trump and place her in the position as acting Director.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

I would be interested to have you document your qualifications here. For I, too, feel I am more qualified, except for being too old and having little to no relevant expertise or experience. Other than that . . .

30 years inside the Beltway, but that isn't the essential aspect. I was naive enough to take my education seriously and pursue it further, and naive enough to think that seriously applying it would get uniform recognition. So . . . Masters Public Administration and Public Finance; Masters in Economics; 12 years teaching graduate students in Information Systems, Database Theory and Design; the 30 years included managing a $400 million grant program; investigative work in states for a quality control program; resolving audits of state and local governments; statistical analysis, sample design -- for a landmark court case; etc. etc. yada-yada-yada.

I ran with a pair of workaholics, and we moonlighted after our day jobs as a small consulting firm. We had two major contracts: one with Ford Motor, and another with Norfolk Southern Railroad. My senior colleague was W.E. Deming's junior colleague, and we worked with Dr. D for two years. He's the one who threw us the bone for Ford Motor. That was a couple years before the slogan "Quality is Job One."

The stark fact that I learned late, however: 50% of being a successful person involves being a good person -- which defines an essential leadership characteristic. Empathy.

And, for being a "techno-crat", you cannot ignore politics. So avoiding it completely by your own draconian interpretation of the Hatch Act becomes a disability.

For every government appointee position, there could be a thousand or a million good candidates. For Director, OMB, one would have to be active in a political party and have perhaps a presence in the public eye. Or -- you'd have to be known to a major candidate, wouldn't you? I just happen to believe that running a place like that should involve experience in the trenches. Every now and then, I would hear the myth that "I don't need to know . . . to manage . . . " Bullshit.

 

[compcons]

More facts that dont care about your feelings.

Note the tribal and literal cult-like gatherings you have here where anyone who speaks otherwise will be tarred and feathered.

@Muse @MtnMan @KMFJD @IronWing @HomerJS @sportage As progressives all of you should be valiantly against this fucking imbecile - but to see you valiantly white-knighting and defending her is rather comical and hilarious. The hypocrisy is hilarious.

I can literally see and tell the number of you that are afraid to speak out against against Neera - you're scared t hat your fellow lefties will ostracize you. How does that feel? Do you think that gives you free speech or do you feel that limits you?

So again, I don't have a strong position here, but the opposition really seems to center around her sending bad tweets that hurt peoples feelings. I won't click on your link but could you please list out a few reasons why people should not be supporting her that don;t include her tweets that hurt the snowflakes feelings? If sending harsh tweets prevents someone from taking a position, almost the entire craptastic cabinet from the former administration is disqualified.

I know you don't see it, but consistently you are able to apply different standards to the people on your team and you get you panties all twisted up when we don't agree with you. Perhaps if you brought in some actual facts you might get a few supporters for the notion that this person is woefully deficient to perform their duties (ignoring the fact that the vast majority of the Trump admin was not even qualified and compete asshats).

 

[BonzaiDuck]

Tweets. A huge paradigm shift in information technology has actually caused a decrease in literacy and expression.

Nobody ever anticipates their future in context of what they tweet. But if you look at some of the sorry cases in Congress -- Jim Jordan, Louie Gohmert -- so many more -- they deserve those tweets.

Remember Hillary? She was Senator from New York. Then, she went out on the lecture circuit for some major bucks. So they pilloried Hillary for doing what Mark Twain probably did. Then -- Secretary of State. Worked her butt off -- spending major time in an airplane going hither and thither. Old Orange Face couldn't handle it, so he did his best to destroy the entire State Department. This just serves my original point: nobody fully anticipates the Public Opinion reaction to what they did, what they said.

And that was gravy for Putin. Why? Because State Dept. posts around the world were also a vehicle to insert CIA operatives into foreign countries -- like Russia.

 

[Perknose]

"I just happen to believe that running a place like that should involve experience in the trenches."

I'm 100% with you there, Mr. Merganser!

 

[BonzaiDuck]

"I just happen to believe that running a place like that should involve experience in the trenches."

I'm 100% with you there, Mr. Merganser!

You may have noticed that at least a few former CIA careerists successfully ran for Congress -- Slotkin, McMullin are examples. Public opinion, however, has leaned toward people from "outside the Beltway". This has been a major part of our "election dialog" -- if there has been any sane aspect to such dialog. There are some very wealthy Trump contributors -- I know one -- who "don't believe in them experts", "don't place any value on them Nobel Prizes" etc. Maybe that's an aspect of "populism" -- the idea of the citizen-politician, similar to the idea of the "bidniss-man myth" which pervaded the thinking (if you can call it that) about Trump's fitness for office. Of course, Trump could never have held a position in a successful major corporation. The man never had a real job in his whole life -- but for the last one which he simply didn't do.

So imagine a career civil servant being put before people like Jordan and Gohmert for confirmation as OMB Director. Well, it's "Senate confirmation", but "those types of people" are in the US Senate, of course.

To be an appointee, one would have to have worked in a campaign, or -- be distinguished as a major donor with a resume. For OMB Director, I think Jimmy Carter's choice of Bert Lance was fatal. I just don't remember the particulars.

After four years of being slapped in the face daily just for watching the news, it's come down to this for me as a fundamental conclusion: Do you believe in good government? Or do you believe in no government? Take your pick.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

lol these idiots are pulling out all the stops, ready to pull out every oppression card that they can. How sad.



Man oh man - I can't help but laugh at the concept of finding asians as an oppressed group that have problems suceeding. Even though my entire IT department is run by people from India, I work with tons of people from India, and Asians disproportionately make more money than any other race. The only problem they have is having to sue Universities like Harvard because they aren't admitting as many Asians that are perfectly qualified.

This is an all-new achievement level of how desperate and pathetic the Democratic party has become. How sad.

 

[fskimospy]

lol these idiots are pulling out all the stops, ready to pull out every oppression card that they can. How sad.

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Man oh man - I can't help but laugh at the concept of finding asians as an oppressed group that have problems suceeding. Even though my entire IT department is run by people from India, I work with tons of people from India, and Asians disproportionately make more money than any other race. The only problem they have is having to sue Universities like Harvard because they aren't admitting as many Asians that are perfectly qualified.

This is an all-new achievement level of how desperate and pathetic the Democratic party has become. How sad.

Any updates on when you will be making threads about democratic women in government you admire?

I’m excited to see this list as there have to be dozens and dozens of them, considering the large number of very impressive women in government. After all, it’s not like you have weird inadequacy issues with women or anything, right?

 

[BonzaiDuck]

Any updates on when you will be making threads about democratic women in government you admire?

I’m excited to see this list as there have to be dozens and dozens of them, considering the large number of very impressive women in government. After all, it’s not like you have weird inadequacy issues with women or anything, right?

I suppose it's fine for reputable Democratic legislators to support Tanden's confirmation. Swalwell has served this country well -- no doubt in my mind. I just think his "pitch" for Tanden is a bit over the top.

People are welcome to vote for candidates who are "of their own". I think there must have been a myth among the Righties that black voters voted for Obama because he was black, or that white voters voted for him because they wanted to impose "affirmative action" on the presidency. I voted for him because I thought he was the best man for the job among the choices available. I voted for him in the primary because I thought he was the best person for the job, among those available.

I just don't think Tanden's ethnic origin should become an issue with this. We certainly HAVE a person in the administration of Indian ethnicity, and she's going to be a great Vice-President. But I was really hoping that she'd be Attorney General. But -- OK -- Merrick Garland is also a good choice . . . so there . . .

If she doesn't get confirmed, there are other positions for which she might be more suited. Who do you suppose originally proposed to appoint her as OMB Director? Somehow, I don't see Uncle Joe as her prime advocate. Maybe? Maybe not.

When you have an appointee with a weakly applicable background, there will be other appointees to the same agency with stronger credentials, and there's the career service. There's plenty of talent to pick up the slack.

That was the major flaw in electing a Loser like Trump. He didn't read nuthin'. He didn't listen to nuthin'. He didn't do . . . nuthin' -- except hurt a lot of people. He was a Virus who was responsible for spreading a virus.

 

[shortylickens]

And good riddance.

If you want to hold the Democratic party to higher standards than the Republicans (which - one would hope you can at least achieve that low-level of a bar) then not appointing corrupt pieces of shit like Neera is a VERY good first step. She is the swamp 101 with corruption, child-like behaviors over the years, and the massive amount of bashing she has projected on Bernie and other progressives trying to make progress. That's aside from the fact that she has little to no experience in things that relate to the OMB position that Biden is attempting to appoint her to.

Thankfully Joe Fuckin' Manchin is the hero in this case of all people.

Of all things, anyone who calls themselves a progressive should be voting no as well.

‘A double standard going on’: Democrats accuse GOP and Manchin of bias on Biden nominations

Charges of sexism and white male privilege are flying as Neera Tanden’s nomination looks increasingly doomed.

www.politico.com

Of course, the liberal media shows its true corrupt form - with article after article suggesting that she won't get the appointment because she is a WAMAN! I sincerely hope that everyone here can come-together and 100% agree on that this is a clear indication of what our corrupt news media has become. For anyone to come out and suggest random ridiculous shit like this - with no basis of facts - or any honest reporting on her past scrutiny - is truly disgusting.

They are pulling out all the stops with pulling the "Asian American" race card as well - none of this has anything to do with the validated scrutiny that people are bringing up.


Rising did a good account of everything:

Its not a double standard.

Democrats have higher standards than Republicans and frequently meet them.
Republicans have lower standards and frequently fail to meet them.

This is like saying shoplifters are worse than serial killers and going on a campaign to massacre shoplifters.

I do not like conservatives in the 21st century. They're so fuckin brainwashed and evil they cant even see reality any more.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

Its not a double standard.

Democrats have higher standards than Republicans and frequently meet them.
Republicans have lower standards and frequently fail to meet them.

This is like saying shoplifters are worse than serial killers and going on a campaign to massacre shoplifters.

I do not like conservatives in the 21st century. They're so fuckin brainwashed and evil they cant even see reality any more.

Do you really want to call them "conservatives"? That characterization is too respectable. How about "reactionaries"? I remember a time when conservatives were capable of rational thought. Oh. That was in the 20th century . . . .

I might have called myself a "conservative". I might have called myself a "centrist". After four years of this outrage and the preceding eight years of congressional obstruction, I've decided that I'm just fine for a change if we start drawing from the "Socialist" toolbox to solve problems that the reactionaries have exacerbated in their failure to address them.

 

[HomerJS]

More facts that dont care about your feelings.

Note the tribal and literal cult-like gatherings you have here where anyone who speaks otherwise will be tarred and feathered.

@Muse @MtnMan @KMFJD @IronWing @HomerJS @sportage As progressives all of you should be valiantly against this fucking imbecile - but to see you valiantly white-knighting and defending her is rather comical and hilarious. The hypocrisy is hilarious.

I can literally see and tell the number of you that are afraid to speak out against against Neera - you're scared t hat your fellow lefties will ostracize you. How does that feel? Do you think that gives you free speech or do you feel that limits you?

You have called out two members who haven't even posted in this thread. That is an infraction, and not to be repeated.

Perknose
Forum Director

Hey asshole, you still haven't named the corrupt act for which you accused her. Until you do that I will defend her. If her only "crime" is mean tweets that ship sailed 4 years ago so I support her her nomination as of now.

Dropping turds without any evidence again. You are a dickhead.

 

[compcons]

Dumbfuck OP won't be answering the corruption question. I found this amusing though.



Dan Rather

@DanRather
·
Feb 24

Maybe if Neera Tanden had gotten banned by Twitter for spreading violent and seditious lies Republican senators would be currying favor with her instead of blocking her nomination.