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rudeguy

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call the cops


I swear if you let this guy get away with this, and he knocks up my (future) daughter...I will come find you
 

NickelTitanium

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You should look at the option of you and your wife adopting the child. Have your sister in law drop that loser.
 

allisolm

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Florida 794.05

Third-degree child abuse if person >=21 impregnates a child <16. Unlawful sexual activity if person >=24 has intercourse with victim aged 16-17.

Penalty: up to 15 yrs in prison.

Just in case you need that information.

 

z0mb13

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I am pro choice, so whatever u decide with the baby is fine with me..

as for that fvcker, REPORT TO THE INS!!!
 

DorkBoy

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Originally posted by: allisolm
Florida 794.05

Third-degree child abuse if person >=21 impregnates a child <16. Unlawful sexual activity if person >=24 has intercourse with victim aged 16-17.

Penalty: up to 15 yrs in prison.

Just in case you need that information.

CALL THE COPS

 

DorkBoy

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Originally posted by: allisolm
Florida 794.05

Third-degree child abuse if person >=21 impregnates a child <16. Unlawful sexual activity if person >=24 has intercourse with victim aged 16-17.

Penalty: up to 15 yrs in prison.

Just in case you need that information.

CALL THE COPS

 

Ludacris

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I live in TX. My hometown is FL. Anyways, I am seriously thinking about calling the cops after we all talk Friday. I am so pissed right now you just don't understand. Right now is a pivotal moment in her life and I just want her to do the right thing.


Life is tough. It's even tougher when you are stupid.
 

AmerDoux

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Originally posted by: Ludacris
I live in TX. My hometown is FL. Anyways, I am seriously thinking about calling the cops after we all talk Friday. I am so pissed right now you just don't understand. Right now is a pivotal moment in her life and I just want her to do the right thing.


Life is tough. It's even tougher when you are stupid.


She has some major decisions to make. All of you are (understandably) pretty emotional right now. You might consider getting her to a professional counselor who will help walk her through this decision. While all of you have your own opinions and feelings in this matter, she is the one who will have to live with her decision for the rest of her life. She needs guidance, compassion, and an understanding support system to help her through this.

I hope she is able to go through this with all of you beside her.


 

nan0bug

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Regardless of if she keeps the baby or not, you need to call the cops. If this 29 year old guy had no problems with sleeping with her, and shes 17, he probbably wouldn't care about sleeping with a 15 year old, possibly younger. People who are nearly 30 that sleep with teenagers do so because they are manipulative control freaks who can't get laid by people their own age.
 

Jadow

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dating an illegal alien that is 29 years old. She is pregnant now and only me and my wife know about it.

I know at least one guy who's not in favor of Bush's amnesty program! Yo Quero Taco Bell!
 

Jadow

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hmm, she sounds like a slut, might want to go for a piece of that when she turns 18. Ohh, and turn that guy in to the feds.
 

Ness

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First off, I'd tell the girl to stop being a whore. If you are 17 and fvcking around with 29 year old deadbeats, then you ARE a whore. Tell her to not even consider marrying this guy. She is young and stupid as a rock and she could not deal with a marriage just for a kid's sake. That would just be another slap in the face to everyone who has said the same vows and truly meant them.

Second, I'd call the Cops. No hesitations. You aren't breaking her trust. You are preventing anything else from happening. I mean, what if this deadbeat asswipe decides that he doesn't want to have to pay for a kid or doesn't want to get busted, so he just beats her to keep her quiet? I'm not normally one to stereotype, but many illegals will do whatever it takes to not be shipped back.

Third, tell the girl you're giving her a week to tell her mother before you do it, and suggest to her that she has a new home lined up in case things go as bad as you say they will.

Fourth, I REALLY hate to say it because I don't condone it (but let's not get into this) but she needs to decide if she is going to keep the baby, and if she does how she's going to manage or if she's going to put it up for adoption like every other POS mother does.

Finally, don't get involved any more than you have to. This is not your burden to bear and it wouldn't be the slightest bit fair if you ended up with a child out of pity.

 

Geekbabe

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First off she's only 8 weeks so she's still got enough time to really think all this thru and talk it over with the family.You guys need to decide what(if any) supports you'd be willing to offer her if she decides to keep the baby.She also needs to be faced with the very real possibilty that even if she marries this guy she'll be sooner or later going it as a single mother,so she needs to know what things like daycare cost.

Present her with childcare costs,costs of diapers clothing,medical etc

present her with the list of what family will/will not do to support her..put it in writing so that it's clear and not open to arguments down the road.

get her info on both anortion and adoption

let her make her choice.
 

stev0

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Originally posted by: Ludacris
I live in TX. My hometown is FL. Anyways, I am seriously thinking about calling the cops after we all talk Friday. I am so pissed right now you just don't understand. Right now is a pivotal moment in her life and I just want her to do the right thing.


Life is tough. It's even tougher when you are stupid.

why in the world would you call the cops? obviously it was consentual, if he had raped her than she became pregnant it would be a different story. the guys life might suck now, but what it is going to accomplish by sending him to jail? an easy copout on his role as a father? yes. a waste of tax money on some jackass immigrant that dosen't deserve the food they would be feeding him? yes.

don't let him get out easy, make the guy pay like he is supposed to (assuming the girl decides to keep the child)

really only 3 options;
1 keep the kid, raise it, receive child support and go on with life
2 give birth to said child and put it up for adoption
3 abortion

obviously 2 and 3 would be harder on her mentally, but 1 is going to be a strain physically and economically.

 

Techie333

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Well, if the arsehole has to pay, he's prob. gonna run back to his home country!........
 

Ludacris

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Originally posted by: stev0
Originally posted by: Ludacris
I live in TX. My hometown is FL. Anyways, I am seriously thinking about calling the cops after we all talk Friday. I am so pissed right now you just don't understand. Right now is a pivotal moment in her life and I just want her to do the right thing.


Life is tough. It's even tougher when you are stupid.

why in the world would you call the cops? obviously it was consentual, if he had raped her than she became pregnant it would be a different story. the guys life might suck now, but what it is going to accomplish by sending him to jail? an easy copout on his role as a father? yes. a waste of tax money on some jackass immigrant that dosen't deserve the food they would be feeding him? yes.

don't let him get out easy, make the guy pay like he is supposed to (assuming the girl decides to keep the child)

really only 3 options;
1 keep the kid, raise it, receive child support and go on with life
2 give birth to said child and put it up for adoption
3 abortion

obviously 2 and 3 would be harder on her mentally, but 1 is going to be a strain physically and economically.


How do you force an ILLEGAL ALIEN to pay and abide by US laws? I hear what you are saying but YOU NEED A JOB to pay!!!!! Having him out of the picture takes away his influence and negativity that he brought into her life. She is young and impressionable so he may convince her into marriage so that he gets the PAPERS to be a U.S. Citizen. That's what they do out here. They go after young girls so they can get the papers. I think having him out of the picture would help her get her life back on track. I also don't think she should have the baby, but it's not my choice. She can't even take care of herself much less another human being.
 

Ness

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Originally posted by: stev0
Originally posted by: Ludacris
I live in TX. My hometown is FL. Anyways, I am seriously thinking about calling the cops after we all talk Friday. I am so pissed right now you just don't understand. Right now is a pivotal moment in her life and I just want her to do the right thing.


Life is tough. It's even tougher when you are stupid.

why in the world would you call the cops? obviously it was consentual, if he had raped her than she became pregnant it would be a different story. the guys life might suck now, but what it is going to accomplish by sending him to jail? an easy copout on his role as a father? yes. a waste of tax money on some jackass immigrant that dosen't deserve the food they would be feeding him? yes.

don't let him get out easy, make the guy pay like he is supposed to (assuming the girl decides to keep the child)


That's just it... if he's an illegal immigrant, then exactly who is going to force him to fork over a fair amount of money? Aside from that, how do you know he doesn't already have other kids, and that he isn't fooling around with other girls, too? (I mean, that could be said regardless of his status.) Involving the police would be the best choice, because she will probably get more in government help than she would from him.

As far as the consentual comment... what a joke. I'm sure he loves her with all his heart and wants her to be the woman that he grows old with, not just some piece of ass who was naive enough to get knocked up at the age of 17
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Aside from all of THAT, no, she cannot legally consent to sex with a person that is 26, which is why it is statutory rape. So all in all, I wouldn't expect a dime from him.

 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: Hubris
Abortions aren't things to be entered into lightly. No matter how set a woman is on getting one, they cause long term psychic damage.

Being nitpicky here, but you should qualify your statement by saying that abortions MAY cause long-term psychological damage in SOME people. Unless you have scientific proof that they ALWAYS cause long-term psychological damage in EVERY woman who has one. Otherwise, you are spewing opinionated FUD.
 

allisolm

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I live in TX. My hometown is FL. Anyways, I am seriously thinking about calling the cops after we all talk Friday.

If this started before she turned 17 then...

Texas 22. 011
Sexual assault for anyone to intentionally or knowingly penetrate a person under age 17, other than his spouse. The actor has an affirmative defense if he is not more than three years older than the victim, who is at least age 14.

Two to 20 years in prison.




 

MPankau

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Originally posted by: Ludacris
Ok here is the scenario:

I have a 17 year old daughter in law that was secretly dating an illegal alien that is 29 years old. She is pregnant now and only me and my wife know about it. She is about 8 weeks along. She burst into tears when she told us and now she is considering marrying this guy. I want to call the cops myself but we are all gonna sit down and talk about this Friday. Her mom will probably have a stroke. How would you guys handle this?

Please only serious replies as well. Thanks.
Honestly man - you're in a rough spot, but you already know this. I would first start by ignoring the fact that the father is an illegal - unless their married/seriously committed to each other, who the father is doesn't make a difference. You need to address the needs of what your daughter can handle, and what she wants. Do she have the means to support a child, what are her views on adoption/abortion. ** please do not turn this thread into a abortion debate, or an illegal alien debate **

Just my 0.02

MP


 

Saulbadguy

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Why does it matter if he is an illegal alien or not? I'd let the girl decide what to do, but "calling the cops" should not be on your list of things to do if you believe you can handle this in a civilized manner. He is 29, she is 17..thats a bit messed up, but it happens quite a bit. Present the ideas of abortion and/or adoption, and advise her that seeing this man in the future would probably not be a good idea. Just because you are mad at this guy doesn't mean you should go out of your way to try and ruin his life. Work with the situations you have control over first, then worry about the other things later.

Edit: For all of you who automatically say "CALL THE COPS" or "CALL THE FEDS" or "CALL THE INS!"..you guys are morons. Get a clue.
 

rufruf44

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Well, if you suspect the illegal is only looking for a Greencard let him know that marrying a USC doesn't mean he can his green/pink card at all. Much more complex issue awaits.