Need some help, on quiting cigs..

[Zorkorist]

Any of you guys that want to get fucked up on pure nicotine.. or e-cigs, call me. I'll sell you this shit cheap.

-John

 

[Zorkorist]

Here, try this, cigarette.

-John

 

[phucheneh]

What the fuck is up with this troll?

Did you wait six years for this?

 

[Heller]

Now you are making me think you are an e-cig ***.

Definitely too interested in *******, and ignoring true stories.

-John

 

[Zorkorist]

Hey heller...

Anything I can do to help you quit... please yell.

NOPE!

-John

 

[Zorkorist]

Not One Puff Ever.

Nope!

-John

 

[Edgy]

how bad are the e-cigs on the body?

There are good information in ecig forum that are objective and detailed.

Personally, I have no significant issues but am aware that some people can be allergic to PG (Propylene Glycol) which is one of the more common ingredient in e-liquids. Those people typically use VG (Vegetable Glycerin) in place of PG in their e-liquids.

Aside from that, ALL ingredients in a proper e-liquid are FDA approved food classification - mebe except nicotine which in itself is addictive and potentially fatal in large dosages but harmless in small intermittent dosages which is not unlike caffeine.

One can research and come to your own conclusions.

 

[Zorkorist]

It's being addicted to Nicotine...

If you can suffer the bitch, suffer her.

The OBVIOUS THING is not to use Nicotine.

NOPE!

-John

 

[Soundmanred]

i got nomoania

 

[Edgy]

Btw - one can wean oneself off of nicotine with ecig by gradually lowering the level of nicotine in their e-liquids.

I started with 36mg nicotine level (about same as Mboro Red level) and am at around 12mg level in my e-liquid.

I've known some people who've gone to 0 level nicotine but still vape ecigs because they like the variety of flavors and enjoy the experience. I also know some people who never smoked a cigarette in their life but use ecigs with 0 nicotine because they like it. I guess it's kinda like chewing gum.

Of course opposite cases exist as well - can't stand ecigs and all flavors taste like crap etc.,

Individual tastes are so very subjective.

 

[tcG]

I'm pretty sure commercially-produced cigarettes are neurotoxic.

 

[nightspydk]

Honestly mate, since I've done it a few times, you need to do a cold turk we call it. No cigs no substitute, maybe some snacks. Lakrids what's the english word for that works and plenty of fluid. Juice oranges works. Just get what you need. Don't do this in a down period and treat yourself to all you need. That works better if you got some doe mate.

If you do not go like that, you won't make it in the long run unless you got someone very close giving you an ultimatum.

It can really be done, I just like my cigs to much.

Good luck mate and after the first 2 weeks it's going to be easier. Just aviod coffee and beer.

 

[BUTCH1]

How old are you and how long have you been smoking?

It gets significantly more difficult to quit the longer you've been smoking.

Cold turkey is the way to go... just do it.

Yup, last time i quit that's what I did, first 3 days sucked hard but got better after about a week. My quit only lasted 5 months, it was my birthday, I just finished a big T-bone so as a "treat" I smoked one cig I had bummed off a co-worker, big mistake, in 3 weeks I was back to pack/day. Now I'm using the ecig slowly transferring to those, about 50/50 so far..

 

[Heller]

Heller,

Take it from someone who smoked a pack a day for almost 20 years and then was able to quit via electronic cigarette:

There is NO ecig that will adequately simulate analog cigarettes... PERIOD!

Put it simply ecig does NOT equal to regular cigs - NEVER.

If you go into purchasing ecigs with expectations that there is such a thing, you'll just be throwing your money away and fail.

ecigs are basically alternative nicotine delivery system (like a nicotine patch) but one that more closely simulates the habitual inhaling action of regular cigarettes but without the tar.

As for advice, I can only speak of my personal experience - it took ALOT of research time, patience, and some investment (money, although definitely not as much as buying regular cigs at pack a day).

Probably the only place necessary for all ecig related research:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/

I started myself with an 801-D with cartomizer kit ($40) but was lucky enough to get sound advice from other ecig users and from the forum and quickly graduated to something that works for me - a custom made variable voltage 501 kit ($50) + boge cartomizers ($1-$2 per count) + carto tank ($10) + primarily menthol/mint e-liquid at 18mg nicotine level ($15 per 50ml premade). Important thing here is that what works can be vastly DIFFERENT for everyone.

Besides the initial investment equipment listed above - the consumable parts are cartomizers and e-liquids which typically costs me around $150 - $200 total per year of fairly heavy vaping which equals my cost of buying 4 cartons of regular cigarettes which typically lasted 1 1/2 - 2 months = SAVINGS.

One can also learn to create their own e-liquids which will bring the costs down significantly which I haven't dabbled into yet.

One word of caution - beware of gimmicks where they sell you a kit and cartridges (which are typically cartomizers pre-filled with e-liquids of "tobacco" flavor). They typically make money off selling you cartridge refills which usually costs anywhere from 3-10 times more than buying and filling your own cartomizers.

But as anything that is a tool designed to help remove addictions - the most important thing is your mindset and dedication to quit. Without this, there's nothing that will help.

Do alot of research and do more research and hopefully you'll succeed in quitting. I do strongly suggest visiting a B&M ecig shop (shop owners are almost all experienced past smokers and helpful - they might even let you try some out) to gain knowledge and experience what's available.

It's been 3 years and 2 months since I smoked my last cigarette and I hope you find your way to quitting too via ecig or other methods which might be right for you.

I've registered there, but how do i post, i mean im not even stoned and im don't see a post option... this is a ss from me view...

thanks...

 

[Azraele]

Being scared and actually wanting to quit aren't the same thing. From your post, it doesn't sound as if you really WANT to quit. You want to be able to have your cake and eat it too. The best advice I can offer is to really do a self check. Ask yourself "How bad do you want it?" Be honest. Until you're honest with yourself you won't get very far.

 

[nightspydk]

I remember the last time I 'quit' I did it only to prove it could be done. That is so true Azraele it has to be sincere. It's not that you are fooling me, but you are fooling yourself and that you cannot do.

 

[soulcougher73]

Tally up your yearly cost at the rate you smoke. Should do the trick.

 

[BUTCH1]

Being scared and actually wanting to quit aren't the same thing. From your post, it doesn't sound as if you really WANT to quit. You want to be able to have your cake and eat it too. The best advice I can offer is to really do a self check. Ask yourself "How bad do you want it?" Be honest. Until you're honest with yourself you won't get very far.

IMO it's the "want" factor plus the "fear" factor together, most long-term smokers know that they are doing damage and "want" to quit but are afraid of facing life without the cigs. This site is useful but be forewarned, they are quite explicit, http://www.whyquit.com/. Ecigs don't quite match the real experience but if you can switch to them at least you won't be getting all of the by-products of inhaling a burning leaf so it's (as already described above) a NRT system as are patches, gums, ect.

 

[lxskllr]

http://www.buysnus.com/

 

[Phoenix86]

YMMV, I was able to switch from cigs to e-cigs immediately with no issues. I know a bunch of people who tried to switch like this but went with the gas station versions of e-cigs and that didn't work. The cheap ones are POS from what I can tell.

If you want to try the e-cig route... There's a few things you need to understand about e-cigs. Basically there are 3 parts, the battery, atomizer and tank/cartridge holding the liquid. The cheap ones have low quality atomizers and batteries, this means you'll run out of power faster and the atomizer won't last very long so the device basically stops working. The atomizer needs to be replaced over time weeks to months depending on the specific atomizer.

I'd recommend investing in a decent setup with a replaceable atomizer. I use and ego-T, but replaced the atomizer/tank with a CE5 cartomizer (the atomizer is inside the tank and is replaceable). You'll need at least 2 batteries, charger, one tank, several replacement atomizers, and fluid. The atomizers are around $3 and last about a month. The liquid is around $5-10/week depending on use. I'd recommend finding this locally at a tobacco/head shop so you can get it as needed.

Good luck.

 

[Vdubchaos]

Just quit already and stay away from ANYONE that smokes.

It takes strong will, most don't have it.

Also you have to learn to trick your mind. Don't think about it much. Keep in mind that smoking habit is somewhat like a "self reward system". You smoke to reward yourself for just about everything you do.

You might want to think of another way of rewarding yourself or simply accept that you don't NEED a reward. THat's probably the best way to go IMO as you will most likely kick one habit only to develop another.

Make a list of pros/cons of smoking. Focus on the financial incentive (smoking is NOT cheap).....and keep reading that list (there won't be many pros....)

Good luck

PS. If you SO smokes, it takes 2 to tango. Your chances of success are much lower if that's the case.

 

[Danwar]

I've registered there, but how do i post, i mean im not even stoned and im don't see a post option... this is a ss from me view...

thanks...

you have to post in the "new members forum first" after 5 or maybe 10 posts in that forum you will be able to post in the others

+1 vote for ecigs. its the only thing that worked for me after several attempts to stop smoking. (smoked for 15 years 1 pack a day)

in two weeks itll be a full year of not 1 cigarrete.

I started with 24mg nicotine and now im down to 6mg

 

[HardcoreRobot]

i got nomoania

my pet charanchala got nomoania, it was complete torcher!

on topic, a friend quit using chantix and was very satisfied with the process/results

 

[etrigan420]

Being scared and actually wanting to quit aren't the same thing. From your post, it doesn't sound as if you really WANT to quit. You want to be able to have your cake and eat it too. The best advice I can offer is to really do a self check. Ask yourself "How bad do you want it?" Be honest. Until you're honest with yourself you won't get very far.

This is the most sound advice yet posted.

I smoked 2 packs a day for 20 years, and have been tobacco free since September 11th, 2010 (I wanted something *positive* to remember for that date).

If you *want* to quit, at some point your body will just let it happen. I got to the point where I was just done with it.

Done with feeling like crap every day.

Done with being treated like a second class citizen.

Done with having my kids question why I was smoking.

Done with giving money to tobacco companies to facilitate all of the above.

Don't get me wrong...the process *sucks*. I still sometimes have a dream in which I'm smoking...but it gets easier.

The key is, YOU HAVE TO BE READY TO QUIT. *Then* you can go about figuring out which method will work for you.

Best of luck!

 

[child of wonder]

At 30 cigarettes a day and figure you are sleeping 8hrs a day - Thats a cigarette every 30-minutes.

You should start slow and reduce your nicotine addiction by having goals like cutting down to a pack a day within 2-weeks. Then focus on one per hour to get to 15 a day after a month or so. Its going to take time, have some will-power and find something to occupy your time with instead of smoking.

This is a good strategy.

The hardest part of quitting is defeating the mental addiction. To do that, you have to train yourself to not like cigarettes.

When I quit I started turning a couple drags from each cigarette into puffs like you would a cigar so I wasn't inhaling them. Started slowly, like 1 or 2 puffs per cigarette. Over 4 weeks I kept increasing how much of the cigarette I was puffing vs. inhaling. Pretty soon I was only taking about 2-3 actual drags per cigarette.

Puffing cigarettes like a cigar is disgusting and it trained my mind to dislike cigarettes and my nicotine addiction was almost gone. 10 years this December since I quit.