Originally posted by: waggy
i would think some of the guns listed would be to long for indoor use.
i recall one shotgun someone linked once. it was short and legal.
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Mossberg 500 and Remington 870 are both good suggestions.
However, anyone telling you to use anything less than double-ought buck is wrong, wrong, wrong. Especially the "rubber bullets" suggestions. You're not shooting rock-salt to scare a dog off your land - you're shooting to kill an intruder. If you're not okay with the fact that you may need to end someone's life, you should not own a firearm.
- M4H
Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Mossberg 500 and Remington 870 are both good suggestions.
However, anyone telling you to use anything less than double-ought buck is wrong, wrong, wrong. Especially the "rubber bullets" suggestions. You're not shooting rock-salt to scare a dog off your land - you're shooting to kill an intruder. If you're not okay with the fact that you may need to end someone's life, you should not own a firearm.
- M4H
#1 failed question on the Texas concealed handgun license test.
T/F - You have the right to kill an intruder threatening you in your home
The answer is false. You have the right to stop them. Most states are the same.
You don't shoot to wound, to kill, etc. You shoot to stop.
Now of course death is usually a pretty normal result. But telling a jury you were trying to kill a guy is a lot different than telling them you were trying to stop him.
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: biggestmuff
A wise word of advice:
Think about the type of shotgun that you want to buy to use in a self-defense situation. Depending on where you live, that firearm may have to be turned over as evidence. Now, think again; what type of firearm do you want the prosecution showing to a jury of possibly firearm ignorant people? You want them to see a scary, matte-black, pistol-grip shotgun with a heatshield? So, for home defense, purchase something that looks like a grandfather would use. Something old-school with a wood stock.
People typically choose a firearm that looks cool without thinking of the legal ramifications of their decision. Just food for thought.
Up theirs. I'd rather be tried by twelve than carried by six.
- M4H
Originally posted by: biggestmuff
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: biggestmuff
A wise word of advice:
Think about the type of shotgun that you want to buy to use in a self-defense situation. Depending on where you live, that firearm may have to be turned over as evidence. Now, think again; what type of firearm do you want the prosecution showing to a jury of possibly firearm ignorant people? You want them to see a scary, matte-black, pistol-grip shotgun with a heatshield? So, for home defense, purchase something that looks like a grandfather would use. Something old-school with a wood stock.
People typically choose a firearm that looks cool without thinking of the legal ramifications of their decision. Just food for thought.
Up theirs. I'd rather be tried by twelve than carried by six.
- M4H
I guess you didn't get it. I was simply suggesting that the OP, or anyone else, think about the cosmetics of a firearm before making the purchase. A field shotgun will stop an intruder just as well as a Fabarm FP6 or any other 'tactical' shotgun. When you go to court, that prosecutor will attempt to make you the bad guy by analyzing everything from the gun and the ammo used.
I mentioned the FP6, because that's a shotgun that I own, but I would never pick it up if I heard an intruder in my home.
People take the time to learn all about their firearms and the legalities of carrying, but neglect to study the ramifications of actually using a firearm in a defense situation. And that's what actually matters!
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: biggestmuff
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: biggestmuff
A wise word of advice:
Think about the type of shotgun that you want to buy to use in a self-defense situation. Depending on where you live, that firearm may have to be turned over as evidence. Now, think again; what type of firearm do you want the prosecution showing to a jury of possibly firearm ignorant people? You want them to see a scary, matte-black, pistol-grip shotgun with a heatshield? So, for home defense, purchase something that looks like a grandfather would use. Something old-school with a wood stock.
People typically choose a firearm that looks cool without thinking of the legal ramifications of their decision. Just food for thought.
Up theirs. I'd rather be tried by twelve than carried by six.
- M4H
I guess you didn't get it. I was simply suggesting that the OP, or anyone else, think about the cosmetics of a firearm before making the purchase. A field shotgun will stop an intruder just as well as a Fabarm FP6 or any other 'tactical' shotgun. When you go to court, that prosecutor will attempt to make you the bad guy by analyzing everything from the gun and the ammo used.
I mentioned the FP6, because that's a shotgun that I own, but I would never pick it up if I heard an intruder in my home.
People take the time to learn all about their firearms and the legalities of carrying, but neglect to study the ramifications of actually using a firearm in a defense situation. And that's what actually matters!
so if your family was in danger you would not pick up the gun to defend them?
Originally posted by: biggestmuff
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: biggestmuff
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: biggestmuff
A wise word of advice:
Think about the type of shotgun that you want to buy to use in a self-defense situation. Depending on where you live, that firearm may have to be turned over as evidence. Now, think again; what type of firearm do you want the prosecution showing to a jury of possibly firearm ignorant people? You want them to see a scary, matte-black, pistol-grip shotgun with a heatshield? So, for home defense, purchase something that looks like a grandfather would use. Something old-school with a wood stock.
People typically choose a firearm that looks cool without thinking of the legal ramifications of their decision. Just food for thought.
Up theirs. I'd rather be tried by twelve than carried by six.
- M4H
I guess you didn't get it. I was simply suggesting that the OP, or anyone else, think about the cosmetics of a firearm before making the purchase. A field shotgun will stop an intruder just as well as a Fabarm FP6 or any other 'tactical' shotgun. When you go to court, that prosecutor will attempt to make you the bad guy by analyzing everything from the gun and the ammo used.
I mentioned the FP6, because that's a shotgun that I own, but I would never pick it up if I heard an intruder in my home.
People take the time to learn all about their firearms and the legalities of carrying, but neglect to study the ramifications of actually using a firearm in a defense situation. And that's what actually matters!
so if your family was in danger you would not pick up the gun to defend them?
No. I would not pick up the Fabarm FP6. I would choose another firearm. I have other firearms.
Originally posted by: FoBoT
he probably has bombs and grenades and sharks with lasers!! :Q
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: biggestmuff
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: biggestmuff
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: biggestmuff
A wise word of advice:
Think about the type of shotgun that you want to buy to use in a self-defense situation. Depending on where you live, that firearm may have to be turned over as evidence. Now, think again; what type of firearm do you want the prosecution showing to a jury of possibly firearm ignorant people? You want them to see a scary, matte-black, pistol-grip shotgun with a heatshield? So, for home defense, purchase something that looks like a grandfather would use. Something old-school with a wood stock.
People typically choose a firearm that looks cool without thinking of the legal ramifications of their decision. Just food for thought.
Up theirs. I'd rather be tried by twelve than carried by six.
- M4H
I guess you didn't get it. I was simply suggesting that the OP, or anyone else, think about the cosmetics of a firearm before making the purchase. A field shotgun will stop an intruder just as well as a Fabarm FP6 or any other 'tactical' shotgun. When you go to court, that prosecutor will attempt to make you the bad guy by analyzing everything from the gun and the ammo used.
I mentioned the FP6, because that's a shotgun that I own, but I would never pick it up if I heard an intruder in my home.
People take the time to learn all about their firearms and the legalities of carrying, but neglect to study the ramifications of actually using a firearm in a defense situation. And that's what actually matters!
so if your family was in danger you would not pick up the gun to defend them?
No. I would not pick up the Fabarm FP6. I would choose another firearm. I have other firearms.
and a lawyer wouldnt mention that?
Originally posted by: biggestmuff
Wouldn't mention what?
Originally posted by: SoulAssassin
http://www.impactguns.com/store/media/butler_shotguns_folders.jpg
If you put the middle stock on the lower shotgun this is what I have. Mossberg 500 w 18.5" barrel & Butler Creek folding stock.
Originally posted by: tenshodo13
Originally posted by: SoulAssassin
http://www.impactguns.com/store/media/butler_shotguns_folders.jpg
If you put the middle stock on the lower shotgun this is what I have. Mossberg 500 w 18.5" barrel & Butler Creek folding stock.
I think I am in Love with that gun. If she could cook, I would marry it.
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: biggestmuff
Wouldn't mention what?
that you have a bunch of otehr guns. iwould think that would look just as bad as having a "defence" one.