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Need helping finding more supplement drinks like this one: Orgain Vegen

I have food allergies too. For starters, you can make your own milk pretty easily. All you need is a blender & a strainer bag. Here's some good starter information:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=37069597&postcount=36

Here's a few pre-made protein powder mixes to look into:

https://aloha.com/shop/plant-based-superfood-protein

http://myvega.com/

http://www.plantfusion.net/products/plantfusion

Here's a bunch of protein powder links & recipe ideas for goodies:

http://proteinpow.com/shop/protein-powder

Here's some smoothie & smoothie ingredient ideas:

http://catch42.pbworks.com/w/page/78032378/Protein Smoothies

You can make your own protein powder mixes too. The initial cost is high since you're buying raw ingredients, but once you get the system setup, it's pretty easy. Like, you can get all kinds of raw protein powder like hemp protein, egg white protein, and so on, then you can mix in granulated honey, vanilla powder, coconut sugar, etc. for flavoring, whatever you need to be compatible with her allergies.
 
Can she do Whey (Optimum Nutrition) and water? That stuff she's drinking now is hitting you guys up for $2.50 per serving, that's a good bit of money compared to protein powders.
 
Whey makes her sick too. She's seriously limited.

For instance, if she has aspartame, she'll want to stick a gun in her mouth. It'll have her in tears. So we have to avoid quite a bit.

For whatever it's worth, those Orgain Vegan drinks don't bother her, but she doesn't want to rely on want single drink. she needs variety.
 
Whey makes her sick too. She's seriously limited.

For instance, if she has aspartame, she'll want to stick a gun in her mouth. It'll have her in tears. So we have to avoid quite a bit.

For whatever it's worth, those Orgain Vegan drinks don't bother her, but she doesn't want to rely on want single drink. she needs variety.

is there a reason she "needs" these drinks vs eating real food?

my suggestion would be to make her own drink, that way she knows exactly what's in it
 
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Yeah, then you should check out Kaido's links and look for a plant protein.

I would check out Now unflavored Pea Protein, heard good things about it:
http://www.amazon.com/Now-Foods-Pea-.../dp/B001DB4MFO

Just mix it with her favorite fruit juice smoothie if she can't do straight water + powder.

FWIW that protein powder basically tastes like dried pea soup, in a very bland way. I actually use it for adding protein to homemade soups because of the flavor :biggrin:

It's not terrible, but it is a cross between powdered cardboard & plants, which hasn't worked out too well for me unless the smoothie has a really strong flavor. But if you're already making a soup, or maybe like a V8 juice, it's pretty decent. It's not quite gritty, but it's not quite 100% dissolvable either. So the texture is a tad bit off & the flavor is better suited for savory stuff imo. I really need to use it more, I've had the jumbo jar sitting in my cupboard since last year :awe:
 
is there a reason she "needs" these drinks vs eating real food?

my suggestion would be to make her own drink, that way she knows exactly what's in it

I don't know what the OP's gf's reasons are, but for me, it's partly a mental thing...it's nice to chug a giant glass of goo & know that you've at least met your bare minimum nutritional requirements for the meal, despite your dietary restrictions with your allergies.

Also OP, have you checked out soylent? Complete meal replacement shake:

http://www.soylent.me/

If the stock formula isn't compatible with her allergies, there's a pretty large DIY community who tweak the formula to suit them, which may be worth looking into.
 
I don't know what the OP's gf's reasons are, but for me, it's partly a mental thing...it's nice to chug a giant glass of goo & know that you've at least met your bare minimum nutritional requirements for the meal, despite your dietary restrictions with your allergies.

Also OP, have you checked out soylent? Complete meal replacement shake:

http://www.soylent.me/

If the stock formula isn't compatible with her allergies, there's a pretty large DIY community who tweak the formula to suit them, which may be worth looking into.

She can't do soy; but I haven't looked past soylent beyond that.

And yep, she's a busy girl, doesn't have time for constant meal prep. If she has to choose between a bottle of 'goo' and taking the time to prep a meal for work, she'll often just go without... So it's often the goo or nothing at all (or fries and a donut). And that makes her sad and depressed (and tired because of bad nutrition).

We need her to have a good 3 months where she's getting an awesome diet every single day. She makes good money. She didn't bat an eye at the cost of the Orgain drinks. She would happily spend $20 a day if she could get proper meals.
 
FWIW that protein powder basically tastes like dried pea soup, in a very bland way. I actually use it for adding protein to homemade soups because of the flavor :biggrin:

It's not terrible, but it is a cross between powdered cardboard & plants, which hasn't worked out too well for me unless the smoothie has a really strong flavor. But if you're already making a soup, or maybe like a V8 juice, it's pretty decent. It's not quite gritty, but it's not quite 100% dissolvable either. So the texture is a tad bit off & the flavor is better suited for savory stuff imo. I really need to use it more, I've had the jumbo jar sitting in my cupboard since last year :awe:

Yeah I had been meaning to try it out as well, but I'm pretty happy with Optimum Whey.

I figured drinking it straight would be tough, but some of the Amazon reviews said they hated it at first but now they love it. Go figure.
 
if she's lactose intolerant like myself she should check out whey protein isolate. normal whey has tons of lactose which of course will give her problems. whey isolate is pretty much lactose free.
 
Close but no cigars. The vegan version would be perfect except for the Stevia.

Stevia will ruin her day. 🙁

I wonder if she has a corn allergy like me. Processed Stevia usually contains dextrose, which is corn-based (plus they usually have other stuff like glycerine & whatnot in it). Not many safe brands if you have a corn allergy:

https://www.facebook.com/notes/iam-neferast/stevia-corn-allergies/139601629450624

You said she gets headaches a lot - any other symptoms? You mentioned artificial sweeteners, which usually contain corn in some form or another. When I was going through my allergy identification processed, I noticed that I felt better on a preservative-free diet. Then I started nailing down exactly what ingredients were bothering me...it turned out to be corn. I lived with a headache nearly every day of my life until I went off corn, ranging from a mild ache to a full-blown migraine.

It's a difficult one to avoid because you have to buy "safe" ingredients, and nothing is safe. Even seemingly natural things like honey isn't safe because they feed the bees high-fructose corn syrup, which isn't a direct ingredient in the honey end-product, but is still in there because I get a headache from it. I have to buy special corn-free honey.

Once I learned about that allergy, my life got waaaaaay better. I make the majority of my food at home now, using safe ingredients that I've tested myself, and I can go through an entire day pain-free now, depending on how careful I choose to be about what I eat. Not that I was in crippling pain before, but I was always somewhat nauseous, always had some form of a headache, etc. before.

So a corn allergy might be worth looking into, because she might not be allergic to everything, just one thing that is in everything. I used to get severe headaches when I ate apples, for example, and I thought I was allergic to apples. Turns out they put a corn-based wax on them at the grocery store to make them shiny. I noticed this because I wouldn't get a headache when I ate apples that I picked from a local pick-your-own farm.
 
I wonder if she has a corn allergy like me. Processed Stevia usually contains dextrose, which is corn-based (plus they usually have other stuff like glycerine & whatnot in it). Not many safe brands if you have a corn allergy:

https://www.facebook.com/notes/iam-neferast/stevia-corn-allergies/139601629450624

You said she gets headaches a lot - any other symptoms? You mentioned artificial sweeteners, which usually contain corn in some form or another. When I was going through my allergy identification processed, I noticed that I felt better on a preservative-free diet. Then I started nailing down exactly what ingredients were bothering me...it turned out to be corn. I lived with a headache nearly every day of my life until I went off corn, ranging from a mild ache to a full-blown migraine.

It's a difficult one to avoid because you have to buy "safe" ingredients, and nothing is safe. Even seemingly natural things like honey isn't safe because they feed the bees high-fructose corn syrup, which isn't a direct ingredient in the honey end-product, but is still in there because I get a headache from it. I have to buy special corn-free honey.

Once I learned about that allergy, my life got waaaaaay better. I make the majority of my food at home now, using safe ingredients that I've tested myself, and I can go through an entire day pain-free now, depending on how careful I choose to be about what I eat. Not that I was in crippling pain before, but I was always somewhat nauseous, always had some form of a headache, etc. before.

So a corn allergy might be worth looking into, because she might not be allergic to everything, just one thing that is in everything. I used to get severe headaches when I ate apples, for example, and I thought I was allergic to apples. Turns out they put a corn-based wax on them at the grocery store to make them shiny. I noticed this because I wouldn't get a headache when I ate apples that I picked from a local pick-your-own farm.

I've never heard of someone being allergic to Stevia. She should try ones with no fillers (usually xylitol, erythritol, or dextrose).
http://www.amazon.com/Now-Foods-Orga.../dp/B005F9XFN0
 
I've never heard of someone being allergic to Stevia. She should try ones with no fillers (usually xylitol, erythritol, or dextrose).
http://www.amazon.com/Now-Foods-Orga.../dp/B005F9XFN0

I haven't either, it's usually a reaction to the fillers.

Personally, I don't like Stevia, mainly because of the aftertaste. It's not bad going down (especially in soda), but then I get the same jolt I get after drinking cough medicine :biggrin:
 
I wonder if she has a corn allergy like me. Processed Stevia usually contains dextrose, which is corn-based (plus they usually have other stuff like glycerine & whatnot in it). Not many safe brands if you have a corn allergy:

https://www.facebook.com/notes/iam-neferast/stevia-corn-allergies/139601629450624

You said she gets headaches a lot - any other symptoms? You mentioned artificial sweeteners, which usually contain corn in some form or another. When I was going through my allergy identification processed, I noticed that I felt better on a preservative-free diet. Then I started nailing down exactly what ingredients were bothering me...it turned out to be corn. I lived with a headache nearly every day of my life until I went off corn, ranging from a mild ache to a full-blown migraine.

It's a difficult one to avoid because you have to buy "safe" ingredients, and nothing is safe. Even seemingly natural things like honey isn't safe because they feed the bees high-fructose corn syrup, which isn't a direct ingredient in the honey end-product, but is still in there because I get a headache from it. I have to buy special corn-free honey.

Once I learned about that allergy, my life got waaaaaay better. I make the majority of my food at home now, using safe ingredients that I've tested myself, and I can go through an entire day pain-free now, depending on how careful I choose to be about what I eat. Not that I was in crippling pain before, but I was always somewhat nauseous, always had some form of a headache, etc. before.

So a corn allergy might be worth looking into, because she might not be allergic to everything, just one thing that is in everything. I used to get severe headaches when I ate apples, for example, and I thought I was allergic to apples. Turns out they put a corn-based wax on them at the grocery store to make them shiny. I noticed this because I wouldn't get a headache when I ate apples that I picked from a local pick-your-own farm.

She's going to look into the corn thing.

Any other symptoms? She said this

"any other symptoms?" ---constant nausea, aversion to food, light and sound sensitivity, halos around light most noticeable at night when driving, sharp stabbing pain behind the eyes and at the temples, aching pain at occipital and neck. ranging in severity from annoying to debilitating.
 
She's going to look into the corn thing.

Any other symptoms? She said this

"any other symptoms?" ---constant nausea, aversion to food, light and sound sensitivity, halos around light most noticeable at night when driving, sharp stabbing pain behind the eyes and at the temples, aching pain at occipital and neck. ranging in severity from annoying to debilitating.

Yup, sounds about right haha. Basically makes you sound like a hypochondriac. Here's basically what happens for like a non-lethal anaphylactic reaction for me:

1. An allergen is ingested (i.e. you eat something with a hidden corn ingredient in it)

2. The body reacts to it as it passes through the system (2-3 days typically): from the mouth to stomach, GI tract (upper & lower), rectum, and finally the toilet.

3. While it's in the "holding cell" of the stomach processing track, it spiderwebs out to various reactions. A lot of the stomach stuff ties into head pain, particularly migraines (temple pain, stabbing feeling behind eyes, sensitivity to light & sound), and can range from a headache (annoying) to a migraine (showstopping) to an ocular migraine (no pain but goofed-up vision & stuff). The stomach stuff, of course, includes the nausea, sometimes sharp stabbing pains, the usual cramps & whatnot. There's also some interesting arthritis effects like you mentioned - base of the heck & other areas.

For me, that was corn. The bummer is that while there is a corn allergy test, most people don't show a positive reaction because our measuring technology for it isn't very good yet. Also, a corn allergy is not a corn protein allergy - you can remove the corn protein & still have a really severe reaction, so most stuff that is labeled "corn-free" is BS. It's a VERY tricky allergy to both self-diagnose & manage. I do fine when I eat nothing but my safe ingredients (ones I've tested myself & added to my pantry), but if I screw up, the first thing I get is nausea & head pain. Sinus pain too sometimes - nose area & middle of the forehead & between the eyes.

The hard part is that it comes & goes, and it's based off how much you consume, what you consume (there are literally dozens of derivatives), what other stuff you ate with it (affects how fast it moves through your body), and so on. So if you drink a soda with lunch, you may get a less severe reaction, but it will last longer & be more annoying. So if her symptoms come & go, and are sometimes bad & sometimes mild, that's a pretty good sign right there. I'm very allergy to dairy & corn and intolerant of the rest of the grains, but corn is definitely the most annoying because it doesn't have to be labelled, and hides under a huge variety of names. Here's just a sampling:

http://www.cornallergens.com/list/corn-allergen-list.php

For example, you can't buy regular salt, because it has dextrose for anti-clumping. Dextrose is corn. Vitamin C pills are corn. Citric acid (not Citris) is corn. Ascorbic acid is corn. Everything is corn. Corn is life. Corn is love 😀 Doctors aren't much help because it's not a well-known allergy yet, and they think that anything that doesn't have year's worth of double-blind medical tests is complete BS & that it's all in your head. Well, it's not, it's just that our technology to detect & diagnose it stinks right now. The best resource is the corn allergy Facebook group, I forget the name of it, but it's pretty much the only active one & everyone has those same random symptoms.

And that doesn't mean it's corn, it could be something else (gluten etc.). But for me, I had a million random annoyances and it took forever to figure out what it was, and partly, you're just used to feeling crummy all the time, so it's hard to realize what feeling good actually feels like & not go back to eating what you were before, partially because your body makes you addicted to it. It's not an easy allergy & it's not cheap, but man, it sure is nice to feel good 24/7 when I choose to!

And the things that bite you are random. For example, the white absorbent pads they put under fruit in the little clear baskets at the grocery store are corny & give me massive problems. Some people are allergic to even plastic cups & spoons (a lot of plastics are corn-based or have some processing agent with corn). But you usually know you're horribly sensitive because everything makes you super sick all the time, more people are just really intolerant of it. I spent the better part of a year trialing foods to add to my pantry so that I'd have stuff that wouldn't bite me with pain when I ate it. It stinks, but it is what it is. Fingers crossed for her! Feel free to shoot me a PM anytime if you have any questions.
 
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