Need Help With Replacing Sub

NaOH

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Would I be able to replace this sub with any sub? I'm pretty sure it can because all it does is plug into the back of the reciever. Any good recommendations for one around 100 if not less to replace it with ?
 

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Originally posted by: NaOH
I have this Text

Would I be able to replace this sub with any sub? I'm pretty sure it can because all it does is plug into the back of the reciever. Any good recommendations for one around 100 if not less to replace it with ?

With that budget I dunno maybe get a JBL off ebay or something, heck I just bought a martin logan dynamo and even it was 550. You are correct tho should be able to buy any sub and plug it into the receiver. There are good cheap subs like elemental designs but even their lowest is 300.




http://www.edesignaudio.com/ed...h=2_41&products_id=406
 

NaOH

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I don't need a crazy subwoofer. It's just a system I have for now since i'm moving around a lot, I love how it's tiny. Hmm, how is this one?

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I know it's cheap, but I just want the best bang for the buck for now (Mainly used for dvd and HD movies + gaming off my 360).
 

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Are you going to replace the sub it already has then?

This might be more difficult than it seems at first if you're looking to get better bass from the system.

With 2.5" drivers in the satellites and a 6" driver in the sub, your current "sub" is going to be playing a lot of the frequencies that larger speakers would be producing on their own.

If you get rid of the 6" sub and try to replace it with a sub with a larger driver, things might start to sound crappier.

I'm not sure how well it would work, but you might consider using both the existing "sub" and an additional sub that's just dedicated to lower frequencies (you would have to get a sub with crossover controls built into it).

Dayton makes pretty good budget subwoofers. When they go on sale and include free shipping, I think they're pretty hard to beat.
 

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I can't use my existing sub because it's broken. I can hear rattling and the woofer rubbing during really loud scenes.
 

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My 1st HT system was a Denon system bought from Good Guys back in the mid 90's. It consisted of very small size drivers also, I paired it up with a JBL PW1000 10" sub and it did fine for HT. Granted its not the same as what I have now but I still use my denon rear surrounds until I finish my Paradigm system. So he might be able to use a bigger sub and get away with it.
 

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Originally posted by: WaTaGuMp
My 1st HT system was a Denon system bought from Good Guys back in the mid 90's. It consisted of very small size drivers also, I paired it up with a JBL PW1000 10" sub and it did fine for HT. Granted its not the same as what I have now but I still use my denon rear surrounds until I finish my Paradigm system. So he might be able to use a bigger sub and get away with it.

Yeah, I'm sure it will work, but matching 2.5" woofers to a 10"? sub isn't really ideal.
 

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I would love to be able to find the exact same sub again.....agh..too bad it's discontinued.
 

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Hmmmm...say if I wanted to replace the sats AND the sub..what do you guys recommend? I wouldn't mind picking up those Polk R150s and that onyko sub.
 

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Originally posted by: NaOH
Hmmmm...say if I wanted to replace the sats AND the sub..what do you guys recommend? I wouldn't mind picking up those Polk R150s and that onyko sub.

Does your mini-receiver had an adjustable crossover?
 

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Originally posted by: NaOH
Hmmmm...say if I wanted to replace the sats AND the sub..what do you guys recommend? I wouldn't mind picking up those Polk R150s and that onyko sub.

Big sound can come in small packages and good pricing now a days, there are several good options, you can have alook at the entry lvl Paradigm series, the cinemas. For price to quality im sure YoYo will agree Paradigm are up there. The thing is with speakers the best are the ones YOU like, cause 10 different people 10 different opinions heh.





http://www.paradigm.com/en/par...-series-1-2-2.paradigm
 

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Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: NaOH
Hmmmm...say if I wanted to replace the sats AND the sub..what do you guys recommend? I wouldn't mind picking up those Polk R150s and that onyko sub.

Does your mini-receiver had an adjustable crossover?

I don't think so. I got this setup used a while back so I don't know anything about it besides what I read online.
 

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Originally posted by: NaOH
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: NaOH
Hmmmm...say if I wanted to replace the sats AND the sub..what do you guys recommend? I wouldn't mind picking up those Polk R150s and that onyko sub.

Does your mini-receiver had an adjustable crossover?

I don't think so. I got this setup used a while back so I don't know anything about it besides what I read online.

If you can't adjust the crossover, you're almost stuck with the same problem.
 

NaOH

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Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: NaOH
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: NaOH
Hmmmm...say if I wanted to replace the sats AND the sub..what do you guys recommend? I wouldn't mind picking up those Polk R150s and that onyko sub.

Does your mini-receiver had an adjustable crossover?

I don't think so. I got this setup used a while back so I don't know anything about it besides what I read online.

If you can't adjust the crossover, you're almost stuck with the same problem.

what would i need the adjustable crossover for?
 

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Originally posted by: NaOH
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: NaOH
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: NaOH
Hmmmm...say if I wanted to replace the sats AND the sub..what do you guys recommend? I wouldn't mind picking up those Polk R150s and that onyko sub.

Does your mini-receiver had an adjustable crossover?

I don't think so. I got this setup used a while back so I don't know anything about it besides what I read online.

If you can't adjust the crossover, you're almost stuck with the same problem.

what would i need the adjustable crossover for?

If the crossover is set to something for that 2.5" / 6" system (maybe 200Hz?) that means that even if you get speakers capable of more bass reproduction, they're not going to be being fed that signal and the sub will still be forced to play those frequencies.

Check out 3.2 of my audio thread if you want to read more about what I'm talking about.
 

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On page 34 of the owners manual, you can select crossover setting of 80, 120, 150, 180hz. This allows for you to use any speakers and subwoofers you want. The amplifier is only robust enough to power speakers of greater than 4ohm impedance. Also, you want the speaker sensitivity to be at least 87-90db per 2.83V/1W/1meter otherwise you may clip the amplifier trying to get the volume you want.

By default, the 150hz crossover is selected due to the nature of the speakers that came with the dvd/receiver unit.

If you lost your owner's manual, check it out here

I hope this helps! And have fun!
 

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My sub had an adjustable crossover on itself. So does that mean it was being fed a broader range of frequencies than was intended for just a 6"?
 

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Originally posted by: Tiamat
On page 34 of the owners manual, you can select crossover setting of 80, 120, 150, 180hz. This allows for you to use any speakers and subwoofers you want. The amplifier is only robust enough to power speakers of greater than 4ohm impedance. Also, you want the speaker sensitivity to be at least 87-90db per 2.83V/1W/1meter otherwise you may clip the amplifier trying to get the volume you want.

By default, the 150hz crossover is selected due to the nature of the speakers that came with the dvd/receiver unit.

If you lost your owner's manual, check it out here

Oh sweet, thanks. I got this unit second(or third hand, not sure) and it was missing the manual and the remote. Plus the sub was busted....
 

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Originally posted by: NaOH
My sub had an adjustable crossover on itself. So does that mean it was being fed a broader range of frequencies than was intended for just a 6"?

Most likely, the subwoofer's crossover was set to the highest frequency (effectively bypassing the crossover) or there is a toggle switch bypass/enable that you put to bypass.

See my post just above yours.
 

NaOH

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omg, looks like i need the remote and scart thing to adjust the settings....
 

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Originally posted by: NaOH
Originally posted by: Tiamat
On page 34 of the owners manual, you can select crossover setting of 80, 120, 150, 180hz. This allows for you to use any speakers and subwoofers you want. The amplifier is only robust enough to power speakers of greater than 4ohm impedance. Also, you want the speaker sensitivity to be at least 87-90db per 2.83V/1W/1meter otherwise you may clip the amplifier trying to get the volume you want.

By default, the 150hz crossover is selected due to the nature of the speakers that came with the dvd/receiver unit.

If you lost your owner's manual, check it out here

Oh sweet, thanks. I got this unit second(or third hand, not sure) and it was missing the manual and the remote. Plus the sub was busted....

We like to post at the same time LOL!

Don't worry, you can easily purchase a subwoofer or new speakers for your system. Your receiver has max 30 watts power, which is sufficient for small rooms, or medium rooms with 90db sensative speakers at least.

If you want to replace speakers and sub, whats budget? For subwoofer, 100$ is a very tight budget and imho, insufficient.
 

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Originally posted by: NaOH
omg, looks like i need the remote and scart thing to adjust the settings....

Oh that sucks... Perhaps you can order a replacement from Denon USA. They may have storage parts for a price you are willing to eat.
 

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At this point if you're replacing the speaker, sub, and getting a new remote for a low powered receiver, you might want to just go from scratch?
 

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Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
At this point if you're replacing the speaker, sub, and getting a new remote for a low powered receiver, you might want to just go from scratch?

Yeah...that's what it's slowly looking like =(
I like this one because it's small enough to tuck away because I don't have a lot of space in my bedroom and I also move around a lot.
 

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Since that unit cost 1000$MSRP, you will most likely spend a similar amount of new components with the type of features you desire at least. Is that possible for you?