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RossMAN

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Feb 24, 2000
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Originally posted by: rudeguy
MaDDinGO and I had a very rough trade a couple months back...I actually had to PM the mods to get a response from him....him ignoring messages sounds pretty familiar

Well this isn't good.

I wonder how many others have had rough trades with him?
 

Lucky

Lifer
Nov 26, 2000
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FYI I PM'ed the other party and invited him to this thread. If he was anonymous....it's one thing but he's being call out on the trade and he needs to know about it.
 

cchen

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Oct 12, 1999
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Originally posted by: Wduaqnug
in which part of NY he is located

Sorry to be so harsh. I'm just extremely PO'ed at the moment.

He lives in Hicksville, which is on Long Island. I have his address, email, and school email. supposedly he goes to Binghampton University. I also have his phone number (its logged on my work phone)
 

cchen

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Oct 12, 1999
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Originally posted by: Lucky
FYI I PM'ed the other party and invited him to this thread. If he was anonymous....it's one thing but he's being call out on the trade and he needs to know about it.

Sure, that's fine, but I've posted all the emails that he's sent me. He's online right now (you can find out his SN in his profile) and has been ignoring my IM's for a while
 

Kaervak

Diamond Member
Jul 18, 2001
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Damn, I almost traded my Xbox for that iPod. Glad I didn't. Hope things get resolved man.
 

MaDDinGO

Senior member
Apr 20, 2002
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As you can see with my replys, I HAVE OFFERED HIM A REFUND!!

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Subj: Re: ipod
Date: 6/9/2003 9:58:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From: NiKoN NY

To: cc2210@columbia.edu




First off, the warranty I told you I did not have. You said it was fine and that it was ok to send it separately when I get it. The "scratches" can be removed using any polish. They are mostly from fingerprints or as a result of being in a protective case. I dont know how you can describe the wheel being loose. I have tried other IPODS and they feel the same. The forms I will get on Saturday.

"Gimme a call tomorrow during the day. I'd like the ipod to be formatted,
please. I can wait on the warranty forms. I'll initiate the bank transfer
right now."

If you read the box, IT DOES NOT STATE THAT IT COMES WITH A REMOTE, NOR DID I MENTION IT IN MY DESCRIPTION. Only the 10gig or bigger comes with a control. Look at the apple site or anywhere that sold a 5gig IPOD, it does not come with a remote.


Subj: Re: ipod
Date: 6/9/2003 11:40:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From: NiKoN NY

To: cc2210@columbia.edu




Well if you want you can return it and i will refund your MO.


Subj: Re: ipod
Date: 6/9/2003 11:54:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From: NiKoN NY

To: cc2210@columbia.edu




You get your MO back thats it. You could of looked at the pictures that I offered to anyone on request. You did not ask for it. I gave you what I believed as a IPOD in great condition. I have tried to be honest with you and work with you in this matter. I can just ignore all your messages and take your money. But I am not that kind of person. The IPOD works, in great conditon and comes with everything that should come with it. I will not pay for your shipping nor refund you your shipping. This is my final offer.
 

MaDDinGO

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Apr 20, 2002
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i can give the pics to anyone whos wants to see it....... better off, if anyone can host it, i will show all what hes complaning about!!!
 

RossMAN

Grand Nagus
Feb 24, 2000
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cchen - Forgive me as I'm an inexperienced newbie trader.

But why don't you just accept his FULL REFUND (not sure about shipping)?

It doesn't appear to me that he is trying to blatantly rip you off but I think he could have better represented the product AND been more communicative.

Just take the refund and count your lucky stars.
 

cchen

Diamond Member
Oct 12, 1999
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I feel that he owes me a full refund ( including my costs) because he lied and he wasted my time.
 

rudeguy

Lifer
Dec 27, 2001
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Originally posted by: MaDDinGO
i can give the pics to anyone whos wants to see it....... better off, if anyone can host it, i will show all what hes complaning about!!!

I will host
 

Lucky

Lifer
Nov 26, 2000
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Originally posted by: RossMAN
cchen - Forgive me as I'm an inexperienced newbie trader.

But why don't you just accept his FULL REFUND (not sure about shipping)?

It doesn't appear to me that he is trying to blatantly rip you off but I think he could have better represented the product AND been more communicative.

Just take the refund and count your lucky stars.



because he'd be out $$$. MaDDinGO is destroying his reputation if he wants to keep trading online by continuing to deny he was wrong and accept his responsibilities like a man. If you make an explicit description of condition then it should come exactly that way. If you guarantee it "mint like new with absolutely no scratches" I have no need to look at pictures as long as I trust you. And clearly, it seems you have broken that trust. Suck it up and if the man wants, give him a full refund including his cost of out pocket.
 

RossMAN

Grand Nagus
Feb 24, 2000
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Originally posted by: Lucky
Originally posted by: RossMAN
cchen - Forgive me as I'm an inexperienced newbie trader.

But why don't you just accept his FULL REFUND (not sure about shipping)?

It doesn't appear to me that he is trying to blatantly rip you off but I think he could have better represented the product AND been more communicative.

Just take the refund and count your lucky stars.



because he'd be out $$$. MaDDinGO is destroying his reputation if he wants to keep trading online by continuing to deny he was wrong and accept his responsibilities like a man. If you make an explicit description of condition then it should come exactly that way. If you guarantee it "mint like new with absolutely no scratches" I have no need to look at pictures as long as I trust you. And clearly, it seems you have broken that trust. Suck it up and if the man wants, give him a full refund including his cost of out pocket.

Then MaDDinGO should just cough up the full refund, something should be noted in his Heatware shouldn't it?

If nothing happens, this will continue to go on on and on and on.

Any troll hunters lurking out there?
 

QueHuong

Platinum Member
Nov 21, 2001
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Originally posted by: rudeguy
MaDDinGO and I had a very rough trade a couple months back...I actually had to PM the mods to get a response from him....him ignoring messages sounds pretty familiar

I just checked his Heat and your comment to him was "great trader!" If your trade was really going that bad, you should have stated that so others wouldn't be mislead by your feedback.

 

MaDDinGO

Senior member
Apr 20, 2002
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Originally posted by: rudeguy
Originally posted by: MaDDinGO
i can give the pics to anyone whos wants to see it....... better off, if anyone can host it, i will show all what hes complaning about!!!

I will host

uploading to you as we speak
 

rudeguy

Lifer
Dec 27, 2001
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I have pm'd him with my offer to host his pics...still no answer...seems like the usual MaDDinGO MO....
 

Lucky

Lifer
Nov 26, 2000
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Then MaDDinGO should just cough up the full refund, something should be noted in his Heatware shouldn't it?

If nothing happens, this will continue to go on on and on and on.

Any troll hunters lurking out there?



At this point, many would file a negative at heatware. Others strongly feel that negative heat should be left only for the worst of the worst-true trolls and complete scams. I'm sure a majority go unreported because of fear of retaliation.

Another poster mentioned he had a negative experience...but I'm guessing negative heat was not left. (edit: Ha, it's actually a positive heat....too common this is the case)
 

RossMAN

Grand Nagus
Feb 24, 2000
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Originally posted by: rudeguy
I have pm'd him with my offer to host his pics...still no answer...seems like the usual MaDDinGO MO....

Same here.

I PM'd him a minute or two before you and thought he'd reply quickly so he can show us the smoking gun.

But no replies so far. Seems pretty typical for him.
 

RossMAN

Grand Nagus
Feb 24, 2000
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Originally posted by: Lucky
Then MaDDinGO should just cough up the full refund, something should be noted in his Heatware shouldn't it?

If nothing happens, this will continue to go on on and on and on.

Any troll hunters lurking out there?



At this point, many would file a negative at heatware. Others strongly feel that negative heat should be left only for the worst of the worst-true trolls and complete scams. I'm sure a majority go unreported because of fear of retaliation.

Another poster mentioned he had a negative experience...but I'm guessing negative heat was not left.

You're probably right.

I would leave either a positive or neutral (is that even an option) but with a few "choice words".
 

pillage2001

Lifer
Sep 18, 2000
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MaDDIngo, you sold the man something which you said was flawless ( NO SCRATCHES ). He got the Ipod and there was scratches on it. You should be responsible on this trade and give him back his money + postage. That's the only sane thing to do. You said in that thread that it has no scratches. What's with that?
 

rudeguy

Lifer
Dec 27, 2001
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Originally posted by: MindStorm
Originally posted by: rudeguy
MaDDinGO and I had a very rough trade a couple months back...I actually had to PM the mods to get a response from him....him ignoring messages sounds pretty familiar

I just checked his Heat and your comment to him was "great trader!" If your trade was really going that bad, you should have stated that so others wouldn't be mislead by your feedback.

as I posted, I think a negative is extremely bad...he had excuses...and in the end I did recieve my merchandice
 

rudeguy

Lifer
Dec 27, 2001
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Originally posted by: MaDDinGO
Originally posted by: rudeguy
Originally posted by: MaDDinGO
i can give the pics to anyone whos wants to see it....... better off, if anyone can host it, i will show all what hes complaning about!!!

I will host

uploading to you as we speak

5 mins later and still no email
 

MaDDinGO

Senior member
Apr 20, 2002
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how about we let the pictures decide... i have sent pics to be hosted... "rudeguy" post when ur ready