Need advice: buy 1080 Ti now?

bigi

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Greetings,

Need some helpful thoughts in regards to getting a new 1080 Ti.

I game occasionally. Used to much more. Just sold my R9 290 and looking to get 1080 Ti. I have no problems waiting until Q2 of 2018 to see if we get 1080 Ti's replacement of any sort. I am not really eager to drop $800+ on 1080 Ti now.

Will replay Crysis1/2/3, Doom, and bunch of older games as well.

I have 6800/64GB RAM/650W Seasonic PSU.

Thoughts?
 

moonbogg

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The first Volta card will probably be the usual 15-20% faster than 1080Ti, will cost $800 and you'll likely be waiting 6 months for it. Tough call.
 

Jackie60

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Wait, 1080ti is nearly 12months old, Titan Pascal 18 months new cards will drop soon, wait until September 2018 if you can, if not then as long as you can.
 

krumme

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The first Volta card will probably be the usual 15-20% faster than 1080Ti, will cost $800 and you'll likely be waiting 6 months for it. Tough call.
I think its a stretch as i hope amd magic vega driver will put more pressure on the next few months. Otherwise you will be right.
I will probably go the volta 600usd route. Pascal was fine but more like a tuned maxwell and made for dx11. Volta will bring true new stuff that will probably make volta last longer.
I vote wait.
 

Artorias

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Its a tough decision, the last piece for my new build is a new card and I'm wondering if I should pair the 8700K with my old R280X for a few months.
 

Mopetar

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It’s a tough call since it will be ~5 months before we see a 2080, but I do expect it to offer similar performance at a better price.

There have also been some rumors to the effect that Volta will be a big architectural shift, at least more so than the last several generations. If that turns out to be true it might mean that a 1080 Ti suffers driver rot a lot more rapidly.
 
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Timmah!

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Greetings,

Need some helpful thoughts in regards to getting a new 1080 Ti.

I game occasionally. Used to much more. Just sold my R9 290 and looking to get 1080 Ti. I have no problems waiting until Q2 of 2018 to see if we get 1080 Ti's replacement of any sort. I am not really eager to drop $800+ on 1080 Ti now.

Will replay Crysis1/2/3, Doom, and bunch of older games as well.

I have 6800/64GB RAM/650W Seasonic PSU.

Thoughts?

2080 will cost pretty much the same as 1080Ti anyway, its how it works these days. I would still wait for it in your place, though.
 

Geforce man

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Right now i'd snag a deal on a 1070 or 1070ti. (get one for 400$ or less) that will hold you over until volta, and you can resell w/out losing massively on it. It will still be leaps and bounds ahead of the r9 290.
 

bigi

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Also, I am fine going with AMD card as well if anything is/will be worth considering...
 

bystander36

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It’s a tough call since it will be ~5 months before we see a 2080, but I do expect it to offer similar performance at a better price.

There have also been some rumors to the effect that Volta will be a big architectural shift, at least more so than the last several generations. If that turns out to be true it might mean that a 1080 Ti suffers driver rot a lot more rapidly.

It's far more likely that if there is a big shift, it'll be more like AMD has seen in recent years. Major driver improvements for the new architecture over a longer time period.

I don't believe the past fall off of certain cards has anything to do with "driver rot", but everything to do with a change in the technology used in games.
 

IEC

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Also, I am fine going with AMD card as well if anything is/will be worth considering...

At 4K there is no AMD card currently worth considering.

If Vega 56 aftermarket cards were around $400, I would consider them as a decent budget option as they can be OC'd to nearly Vega 64 levels. But they are being sold for $600+ due to high demand and extremely limited supply, making them a terrible value.
 

Mopetar

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It's far more likely that if there is a big shift, it'll be more like AMD has seen in recent years. Major driver improvements for the new architecture over a longer time period.

I don't believe the past fall off of certain cards has anything to do with "driver rot", but everything to do with a change in the technology used in games.

I think that Volta is that new starting point for NV though and might be like the 7970 that had a surprisingly long life due to everything after being refinements on it to a large degree.

However, that leaves Pascal out in the cold. NV also has the market share and money to get developers on board with their new technology as well and I would expect them to get a few titles to serve as showcases. If Volta is the new starting point for future NV designs, that probably means Pascal falls off faster than usual.
 

urvile

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It's getting to the point where it is a tough call. We probably aren't too far off from volta. So maybe wait. If it was me I would just buy the gtx1080ti you are going to get years of gaming out of it anyway.

I don't think nvidia use the same marketing strategy as apple.

I was able to use my fury X cards right up until this year although they had started to struggle a little bit. IIRC the first game I couldn't play on ultra was dishonored 2 @ 3440x1440 Fury X is probably still fine @ 1080p. Fury X was a good card.

Anyway. Either wait and see if the speculation about volta and vega 64 is true or buy now. Or when volta comes out wait for the gtx1080ti price drop. Which may or may not be worth waiting for. It will depend on how revolutionary (and priced) volta is I guess.

My personal perspective is I would rather have the best performance now so that I can enjoy my gaming on the latest titles. 1000$ will buy you a budget 1080ti where I live.
 

bystander36

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However, that leaves Pascal out in the cold. NV also has the market share and money to get developers on board with their new technology as well and I would expect them to get a few titles to serve as showcases. If Volta is the new starting point for future NV designs, that probably means Pascal falls off faster than usual.
I don't think it has to do with Nvidia, but whether or not game developers change directions in their design decisions. If games don't make any radical changes, Pascal will be fine.
 

urvile

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Some people overthink this stuff ridiculously. Most of the people who have bought gtx1080/1080ti cards aren't going to buy volta cards when they come out. Pascal is going to be around for a long time. Maxwell is still used extensively and that is dated asf now.

I used to buy AMD cards a generation behind. I would wait for the price drop and buy two of the top cards from the previous generation. No worries.

Go with your wallet though and not your heart. :p
 

nOOky

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I'd just buy the 1080Ti and be happy playing your games. It will work great for 4K for the games you listed, and probably for a few years as nothing overly graphically demanding will be coming out in the near future. The 1080Ti won't magically drops hundreds of dollars when the new cards come out anyway, nvidia cards never really do. The new cards coming out may not even provide a noticeable difference in most games anyway, maybe a slight bump in AAS or FPS or something but not Earth-shattering. And of course you will always be playing the waiting game when you should just be happy playing games :D
 
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When the 2080ti releases its not going to be much faster than the 1080ti. The big shift from 28nm to 16nm happened and we got a huge bump, for example from the 980ti to 1080ti there is over 75% performance increase. Going from 1080ti to 2080ti is likely going to be more within 20% to 25% better performance at the same price range.
 

wilds

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I game at 4k on a 1070 with no issues, but I do not aim for maximum settings and I play older games. A 1080 ti will be a great card for 4k60 without any real compromises. I say go for it!