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Nearly 2,000 Inmates Riot in Calif. Jail

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Originally posted by: jammur21
Nearly 2,000 inmates rioted at a Southern California jail, throwing mattresses and banging heads against bunk beds


Let them keep rioting

yeah, but I don't think it's their own heads ..
 
Originally posted by: tweakmm
You do know that the difference between 5 and 10+ years is the amount of money one can pay for a lawyer?
So what you're basically saying is to execute all the poor black and hispanic people right?

LMAO. Yeah, twist my comment into a race debate, that's typical for someone who would defend a violent criminal.

"Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent."
--Ayn Rand
 
Originally posted by: quakefiend420
my brother is in for more than 10 years and none of his charges are violent :|

Ok, I would say only violent criminals should be executed. What non-violent crime put him in jail for 10+ years?
 
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: quakefiend420
my brother is in for more than 10 years and none of his charges are violent :|

Ok, I would say only violent criminals should be executed. What non-violent crime put him in jail for 10+ years?

Right because our federal justice system never makes mistakes and every violent criminal is clearly guilty.

Please. Our system makes way too many mistakes to start killing people if they have >10 years to serve.
 
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Hitler? Is that you? One guy gets killed and 100 injured, and all 2000 of them deserve execution? How about we execute you for pirating music?

No, not just for rioting.

I don't think anyone should be in jail for longer than 10 years. If you do a crime that warrants 10+ years, instead you should just be executed. Your life if worthless if you commit that sort of crime, or any crime that would warrant putting you in a "maximum security prison."

Billions of people disagree.
 
Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
Right because our federal justice system never makes mistakes and every violent criminal is clearly guilty.

Please. Our system makes way too many mistakes to start killing people if they have >10 years to serve.

I would say more guilty people get off than innocent are found guilty.

Do you really believe these gang bangers, rapists, and maniacs should be allowed back on the streets?

Think about it, one day many of them one day will get out of prison and they could be standing behind you in line at the grocery store, or driving by your kid's school, or working in your neighborhood (lawn people etc). Do you really feel safe like that?

I don't hesitate to say these people are sub human and should be gotten rid of.
 
I don't see why there are people in this thread defending these inmates. If they are in a maximum security prision it is because they commited a violent crime. I have no sympathy for such people.
 
Originally posted by: Shawn
I don't see why there are people in this thread defending these inmates. If they are in a maximum security prision it is because they commited a violent crime. I have no sympathy for such people.

:thumbsup: Glad to know someone else on this forum has a brain.
 
There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: the fashionable non-conformist.
--Ayn Rand

Contradictions do not exist. Whenever you think you are facing a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong.
--Ayn Rand

He had a big head and a face so ugly it became almost fascinating.
--Ayn Rand

The Argument from Intimidation is a confession of intellectual impotence.
--Ayn Rand

A creative man is motivated by the desire to achieve, not by the desire to beat others.
--Ayn Rand

"Mediocrity" doesn't mean average intelligence, it means an average intelligence that resents and envies its betters.
--Ayn Rand

We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality.
--Ayn Rand

No man can have a right to impose an unchosen obligation, an unrewarded duty or an involuntary servitude on another man. There can be no such thing as the right to enslave.
--Ayn Rand

The end does not justify the means. No one's rights can be secured by the violation of the rights of others
--Ayn Rand

It's like these quotes were tailor-made for JLGatsby! She must have known this fool would soon grace this wonderful planet with his presence!

 
Originally posted by: Shawn
I don't see why there are people in this thread defending these inmates. If they are in a maximum security prision it is because they commited a violent crime. I have no sympathy for such people.

No it is because they were convicted of a crime. And I don't understand how some of you people can completely disregard these people. Mistakes happen, life doesn't always go how you want it. People like you are the ones who are subhuman.
 
Originally posted by: SampSon
It's like these quotes were tailor-made for JLGatsby! She must have known this fool would soon grace this wonderful planet with his presence!

Or my favorites.

"...the person who loves everybody and feels at home everywhere is the true hater of mankind. He expects nothing of men, so no form of depravity can outrage him."

"A leash is only a rope with a noose on both ends."

http://cobalt.as.utexas.edu/~bbb/paper/atlas.shrugged.html

http://compuball.com/Inquisition/AynRand/whoisjohngalt.htm
 
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: SampSon
It's like these quotes were tailor-made for JLGatsby! She must have known this fool would soon grace this wonderful planet with his presence!

Or my favorites.

"...the person who loves everybody and feels at home everywhere is the true hater of mankind. He expects nothing of men, so no form of depravity can outrage him."

"A leash is only a rope with a noose on both ends."

http://cobalt.as.utexas.edu/~bbb/paper/atlas.shrugged.html

http://compuball.com/Inquisition/AynRand/whoisjohngalt.htm
After reading a good handful of Ayn's books I've come to the conclusion that she needed to get laid, and was obsessed with money. Sounds a lot like housewives today!
 
Originally posted by: UglyCasanova
No it is because they were convicted of a crime. And I don't understand how some of you people can completely disregard these people. Mistakes happen, life doesn't always go how you want it. People like you are the ones who are subhuman.

If you rape someone, put a gun to someone's head, or abuse people in some other way, there is absolutely no excuse for it.

Do not blame "society," "poverty," or whatever left wing excuse you can come up with. There is no excuse to act like an animal and people who do should be treated like animals.

No excuse for violent behavior.
 
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: joedrake
Ummm, as a matter of fact lots of people leave jail and do something with there live, over 10+ years
The local plumber (who makes a very decent salary, btw) owns a company and was in jail 15 years IIRC

Some do, but it's a fact that the vast majority of them DON'T. Most of them end up back in prison and even those who do never go back, still end up becoming drains on society.

Remember what Ayn Rand said, "Pity for the guilty, is treason to the innocent." Nothing could be truer.


Ra's Al Ghul?
 
Originally posted by: UglyCasanova
Originally posted by: Shawn
I don't see why there are people in this thread defending these inmates. If they are in a maximum security prision it is because they commited a violent crime. I have no sympathy for such people.

No it is because they were convicted of a crime. And I don't understand how some of you people can completely disregard these people. Mistakes happen, life doesn't always go how you want it. People like you are the ones who are subhuman.

Tough sh|t. Sure, there may be one or two unfortunate people who were unlucky enough to be falsely convicted but they majority of them deserve to be there. Explain to me how stabbing another human being is justified. Why do these "people" deserve to be treated better than animals when they act like animals themselves?
 
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: UglyCasanova
No it is because they were convicted of a crime. And I don't understand how some of you people can completely disregard these people. Mistakes happen, life doesn't always go how you want it. People like you are the ones who are subhuman.

If you rape someone, put a gun to someone's head, or abuse people in some other way, there is absolutely no excuse for it.

Do not blame "society," "poverty," or whatever left wing excuse you can come up with. There is no excuse to act like an animal and people who do should be treated like animals.

No excuse for violent behavior.

Lol, leftwing?? I am hardly a liberal, and think the Dems are completely batsh!t (not to mention ANNOYING AS FVCK), but I do like to think that I have at least a little compassion for my fellow man. You have obviously never been there nor done that (you never answered my question, are you still in high school? Don't lie. 🙂 And if you do not think poverty or environmental factors play a role in crime then I guess you have answered my question after all.
 
Originally posted by: Shawn
Originally posted by: UglyCasanova
Originally posted by: Shawn
I don't see why there are people in this thread defending these inmates. If they are in a maximum security prision it is because they commited a violent crime. I have no sympathy for such people.

No it is because they were convicted of a crime. And I don't understand how some of you people can completely disregard these people. Mistakes happen, life doesn't always go how you want it. People like you are the ones who are subhuman.

Tough sh|t. Sure, there may be one or two unfortunate people who were unlucky enough to be falsely convicted but they majority of them deserve to be there. Explain to me how stabbing another human being is justified. Why do these "people" deserve to be treated better than animals when they act like animals themselves?

our restraint in ending their lives in the hope of achiving some pristine and infallable conclusion is in many cases the basis of what defines our humanity.

we long for what our greed and our desire will not allow us to have, and realize that these mosnters are indeed human, and deserve our pitty for we can relate to them.
 
Originally posted by: UglyCasanova
Lol, leftwing?? I am hardly a liberal, and think the Dems are completely batsh!t (not to mention ANNOYING AS FVCK), but I do like to think that I have at least a little compassion for my fellow man. You have obviously never been there nor done that (you never answered my question, are you still in high school? Don't lie. 🙂 And if you do not think poverty or environmental factors play a role in crime then I guess you have answered my question after all.

I am not only not in high school, but I am finished with college, but that is irrelevant.

Answer my question, are you saying there is an excuse for raping someone? What about shooting someone?

You're blaming it on "poverty"?

If you steal $100 bucks from your work because you're poor, ok, I'll cut you some slack.

But since when can you blame poverty on drug dealers, gang bangers, rapists, and murders? You're clueless if you believe that!

There is no excuse for violent behavior. NONE, ZERO, ZIP Dont' even try it.

If you commit a crime like that, you're sub human and deserve death, no excuses.
 
Originally posted by: UglyCasanova
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: UglyCasanova
No it is because they were convicted of a crime. And I don't understand how some of you people can completely disregard these people. Mistakes happen, life doesn't always go how you want it. People like you are the ones who are subhuman.

If you rape someone, put a gun to someone's head, or abuse people in some other way, there is absolutely no excuse for it.

Do not blame "society," "poverty," or whatever left wing excuse you can come up with. There is no excuse to act like an animal and people who do should be treated like animals.

No excuse for violent behavior.


Lol, leftwing?? I am hardly a liberal, and think the Dems are completely batsh!t (not to mention ANNOYING AS FVCK), but I do like to think that I have at least a little compassion for my fellow man. You have obviously never been there nor done that (you never answered my question, are you still in high school? Don't lie. 🙂 And if you do not think poverty or environmental factors play a role in crime then I guess you have answered my question after all.
You expect an intelligible from our main man JLGatsby here? Mabey you ARE a batsh!t crazy liberal!

I am not only not in high school, but I am finished with college, but that is irrelevant.
Wait, in all your other posts you claim higher education is worthless and only something a fool would partake in. I smell BS coming from you constantly.
 
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