NBA: Spurs vs Mavericks -Western Conference Finals

[Miramonti]

Dirk is amazing, especially for a 7footer, altho regardless of his size, he's too weak for his frame. He needs a good weightlifing program so he can quit flailing, particularly on defense. It would also help him to be a much better rebounder.

 

[Ranger X]

Originally posted by: jjsole
Dirk is amazing, especially for a 7footer, altho regardless of his size, he's too weak for his frame. He needs a good weightlifing program so he can quit flailing, particularly on defense. It would also help him to be a much better rebounder.

I think his rebounding gets better and better every year. He's not a dominant presence on the court inside and that may be the reason why he is playing SF instead of PF.

 

[Reliant]

Originally posted by: Ranger X

Originally posted by: jjsole
Dirk is amazing, especially for a 7footer, altho regardless of his size, he's too weak for his frame. He needs a good weightlifing program so he can quit flailing, particularly on defense. It would also help him to be a much better rebounder.

I think his rebounding gets better and better every year. He's not a dominant presence on the court inside and that may be the reason why he is playing SF instead of PF.

He plays PF. Najara will usually play defense on they opposing PF because Dirk can't defend some of the dominate PFs and they don't want him in foul trouble and/or being beat.
But he is an amazing rebounder, I remember several 20 rebounds nights this year.

 

[First]

Yikes, I really thought the Spurs would pull this one off. Even if the Spurs win it all this year, I think it'll be very unlikely for them to repeat unless they learn how to play in the clutch. That 4th quarter was awful, Duncan basically choked and no one else was able to help him out. Perhaps the Spurs are still a bit shaken about their terrible 4th quarter performance against the Lakers in Game 3, 4, and 5, when Horry's 3-pointer barely went in-and-out.

Anyway....Vlade has done less flopping this year because the refs know (and have known for a while) that Vlade flops, pure and simple. Vlade is still the flop-master. He's toned it down this year with flails because the refs aren't calling flops for him consistently anymore. LOL, I remember one game this past regular season where Vlade was fronting Mark Madsen and decked him right in the neck (on accident), and as Madsen fell Vlade decided to fall with him (Madsen wasn't even touching him!). Nothing was called on that play, but it just shows how Vlade will still use the flail when he's not getting the flopping calls.

 

[erub]

Hack a bowen!!! Man the Spurs really cant shoot free throws, its really sad, these guys are in the NBA..of course 49 of 50 free throws, with every drunken idiot in San Antonio yelling and waving those white things behind the baskets, holy cow!

 

[First]

And puhlease, this game was not won or lost because of the refs. Spurs let this game get away, period. (though the Mavs made a great comeback).

 

[Reliant]

Originally posted by: Evan Lieb
And puhlease, this game was not won or lost because of the refs. Spurs let this game get away, period. (though the Mavs made a great comeback).

By looking at the stat line I have to agree....the Mavs made their fts and made a comeback in the 4th. It seems that the Spurs have not been a 2nd half team during the playoffs. 25 point lead over LA ring a bell?

 

[LeeTJ]

Originally posted by: Evan Lieb
And puhlease, this game was not won or lost because of the refs. Spurs let this game get away, period. (though the Mavs made a great comeback).

i said it in the lakers series and i saw it here. Duncan CHOKES in the 4th quarter. he chokes.

he choked here. he missed a crucial 5 fter with Dirk in front of him, he missed 3 of 5 free throws.

he was a non factor in the last 5 minutes of the game and without him the spurs have no game.

 

[Angrymarshmello]

So did Dirk PURPOSELY step on Rose's foot, or are we just getting our panties in a bunch? If yes, he purposely slammed his foot or jumped on his foot then he's a dirty player. If he's driving towards the basket wtf can he do.

Oh, go Mavericks!!!!!!!! This one was for the naysayers who said the mavericks couldn't do it

 

[jaybert]

Why would dirk step on his foot on purpose? You know that most rolled ankle injuries are caused when a player steps on another persons foot and then "rolls" their own? Kind of silly to think that he's trying to do more damage to Rose and take him out of the game when he's 10x more important to the Mavs than Rose is to the Spurs.

Also, it was up to the Spurs to protect their own teammates. I guess if you arent suppose to drive to the hoop when a man is down in the middle, teams would just have a person lie in the middle of the floor all the damn time. "CANT DRIVE TO THE HOOP SON, HE'S LYING THERE!" Theres the perfect defense against a bad jump shooting team

Rose is lucky he wasnt called for defense three second (I'm joking about this btw)

Novitzki, if you actually watched the game, was even hestitant bringing it up the court, he was expecting the spurs to foul somebody to get their fallen teammate out.

Also, he was down when the Spurs had their posession? WHY DID THEY NOT TAKE A TIMEOUT THEN? Oh wait, thats because Najera was down as well and were hoping to capitalize on that.

 

[Stojakapimp]

Originally posted by: HonkeyDonk
stojakapimp, you are a friggin' retard.

Think about what you're saying. You think that Dirk chose the most "classless/dirty" option when he drove in like that. I think that's totally wrong.

Think about what would happen if he took a jumper, or a 3pt shot and it didn't go in. Well, now you'll have like 3 or 4 guys jumping up for the rebound WHILE Rose's feet/legs were sticking out under the basket. Which one would you think would be more dangerous? Yeah the jumper would be. You could have 4 guys ladning on his legs/ankles/feet and even more players would be at risk.

What Dirk did was the easiest way to minimize any more damage. He went in and was out in no time. Either the ball would have gone in w/ an easy layup, or he'd get fouled and Rose could be attended to. Either way, it was safer than taking a jumper. And no, calling a TO or runnin' the clock is not a option.

...and FWIW, no one gives a rat's a$$ that you lost respect for Dirk.

I love how you write this long post, heated post about how i'm wrong and a retard, and then in your last line you say that you don't care...that's fitting.

but look, you can talk all day about different scenarios and the such, but it still doesn't negate the fact that Dirk chose either 1.) to use Rose as a shield for an easy layup (leading to my conclusion that he has no balls) or 2.) that he was going right at Rose to hurt him. So look, when I wrote this last night, maybe I didn't mean to use the word dirty. I mean, he's nowhere near Robert Horry on the dirty scale. But rather I meant that he has no balls. It still doesn't change the fact that I lost some respect for him. Sure, maybe someday he'll do something that changes that, but if anything, that play last night sure didn't help. So I don't care if you don't care, but if you really truly don't care like you said you didn't, then don't reply. This is an online forum where I say what I think, not just what you, HonkeyDonk, wants to hear.

 

[LeeTJ]

Originally posted by: Stojakapimp

Originally posted by: HonkeyDonk
stojakapimp, you are a friggin' retard.

Think about what you're saying. You think that Dirk chose the most "classless/dirty" option when he drove in like that. I think that's totally wrong.

Think about what would happen if he took a jumper, or a 3pt shot and it didn't go in. Well, now you'll have like 3 or 4 guys jumping up for the rebound WHILE Rose's feet/legs were sticking out under the basket. Which one would you think would be more dangerous? Yeah the jumper would be. You could have 4 guys ladning on his legs/ankles/feet and even more players would be at risk.

What Dirk did was the easiest way to minimize any more damage. He went in and was out in no time. Either the ball would have gone in w/ an easy layup, or he'd get fouled and Rose could be attended to. Either way, it was safer than taking a jumper. And no, calling a TO or runnin' the clock is not a option.

...and FWIW, no one gives a rat's a$$ that you lost respect for Dirk.

I love how you write this long post, heated post about how i'm wrong and a retard, and then in your last line you say that you don't care...that's fitting.

but look, you can talk all day about different scenarios and the such, but it still doesn't negate the fact that Dirk chose either 1.) to use Rose as a shield for an easy layup (leading to my conclusion that he has no balls) or 2.) that he was going right at Rose to hurt him. So look, when I wrote this last night, maybe I didn't mean to use the word dirty. I mean, he's nowhere near Robert Horry on the dirty scale. But rather I meant that he has no balls. It still doesn't change the fact that I lost some respect for him. Sure, maybe someday he'll do something that changes that, but if anything, that play last night sure didn't help. So I don't care if you don't care, but if you really truly don't care like you said you didn't, then don't reply. This is an online forum where I say what I think, not just what you, HonkeyDonk, wants to hear.

I think your reading WAY to much into one act dude. He drove the basket. that's it. he wasn't thinking about what would happen to rose. he didn't know rose was injured. The fact that the spurs made NO move to stop the action was an indication to him that Rose must not have been hurt. Basketball is a very split second game. it's quick and it's fast. there isn't a lot of time to ponder greater issues of life.

Again, WTF were the coaches of the spurs doing. IT was their JOB to watch out for Rose, not nowitzkis.

You are reading WAY too much into one act. If you think this one act defines nowitzki your being very small minded.

 

[Stojakapimp]

Originally posted by: LeeTJ

Originally posted by: Stojakapimp

Originally posted by: HonkeyDonk
stojakapimp, you are a friggin' retard.

Think about what you're saying. You think that Dirk chose the most "classless/dirty" option when he drove in like that. I think that's totally wrong.

Think about what would happen if he took a jumper, or a 3pt shot and it didn't go in. Well, now you'll have like 3 or 4 guys jumping up for the rebound WHILE Rose's feet/legs were sticking out under the basket. Which one would you think would be more dangerous? Yeah the jumper would be. You could have 4 guys ladning on his legs/ankles/feet and even more players would be at risk.

What Dirk did was the easiest way to minimize any more damage. He went in and was out in no time. Either the ball would have gone in w/ an easy layup, or he'd get fouled and Rose could be attended to. Either way, it was safer than taking a jumper. And no, calling a TO or runnin' the clock is not a option.

...and FWIW, no one gives a rat's a$$ that you lost respect for Dirk.

I love how you write this long post, heated post about how i'm wrong and a retard, and then in your last line you say that you don't care...that's fitting.

but look, you can talk all day about different scenarios and the such, but it still doesn't negate the fact that Dirk chose either 1.) to use Rose as a shield for an easy layup (leading to my conclusion that he has no balls) or 2.) that he was going right at Rose to hurt him. So look, when I wrote this last night, maybe I didn't mean to use the word dirty. I mean, he's nowhere near Robert Horry on the dirty scale. But rather I meant that he has no balls. It still doesn't change the fact that I lost some respect for him. Sure, maybe someday he'll do something that changes that, but if anything, that play last night sure didn't help. So I don't care if you don't care, but if you really truly don't care like you said you didn't, then don't reply. This is an online forum where I say what I think, not just what you, HonkeyDonk, wants to hear.

I think your reading WAY to much into one act dude. He drove the basket. that's it. he wasn't thinking about what would happen to rose. he didn't know rose was injured. The fact that the spurs made NO move to stop the action was an indication to him that Rose must not have been hurt. Basketball is a very split second game. it's quick and it's fast. there isn't a lot of time to ponder greater issues of life.

Again, WTF were the coaches of the spurs doing. IT was their JOB to watch out for Rose, not nowitzkis.

You are reading WAY too much into one act. If you think this one act defines nowitzki your being very small minded.

I'm really not trying to read too much into this. I already had an opinion about Dirk and this surely didn't help to fix it, but I didn't think all this arguing would come out of it.

 

[wyvrn]

I think it's hilarious anyone could think of Dirk as a dirty player. I get the exact opposite image from him. Karl Malone dirty? Sure! Vlade Divac dirty? Sure! But Nowitzki? Cmon!

 

[LeeTJ]

Originally posted by: Stojakapimp

Originally posted by: LeeTJ

Originally posted by: Stojakapimp

Originally posted by: HonkeyDonk
stojakapimp, you are a friggin' retard.

Think about what you're saying. You think that Dirk chose the most "classless/dirty" option when he drove in like that. I think that's totally wrong.

Think about what would happen if he took a jumper, or a 3pt shot and it didn't go in. Well, now you'll have like 3 or 4 guys jumping up for the rebound WHILE Rose's feet/legs were sticking out under the basket. Which one would you think would be more dangerous? Yeah the jumper would be. You could have 4 guys ladning on his legs/ankles/feet and even more players would be at risk.

What Dirk did was the easiest way to minimize any more damage. He went in and was out in no time. Either the ball would have gone in w/ an easy layup, or he'd get fouled and Rose could be attended to. Either way, it was safer than taking a jumper. And no, calling a TO or runnin' the clock is not a option.

...and FWIW, no one gives a rat's a$$ that you lost respect for Dirk.

I love how you write this long post, heated post about how i'm wrong and a retard, and then in your last line you say that you don't care...that's fitting.

but look, you can talk all day about different scenarios and the such, but it still doesn't negate the fact that Dirk chose either 1.) to use Rose as a shield for an easy layup (leading to my conclusion that he has no balls) or 2.) that he was going right at Rose to hurt him. So look, when I wrote this last night, maybe I didn't mean to use the word dirty. I mean, he's nowhere near Robert Horry on the dirty scale. But rather I meant that he has no balls. It still doesn't change the fact that I lost some respect for him. Sure, maybe someday he'll do something that changes that, but if anything, that play last night sure didn't help. So I don't care if you don't care, but if you really truly don't care like you said you didn't, then don't reply. This is an online forum where I say what I think, not just what you, HonkeyDonk, wants to hear.

I think your reading WAY to much into one act dude. He drove the basket. that's it. he wasn't thinking about what would happen to rose. he didn't know rose was injured. The fact that the spurs made NO move to stop the action was an indication to him that Rose must not have been hurt. Basketball is a very split second game. it's quick and it's fast. there isn't a lot of time to ponder greater issues of life.

Again, WTF were the coaches of the spurs doing. IT was their JOB to watch out for Rose, not nowitzkis.

You are reading WAY too much into one act. If you think this one act defines nowitzki your being very small minded.

I'm really not trying to read too much into this. I already had an opinion about Dirk and this surely didn't help to fix it, but I didn't think all this arguing would come out of it.

OK, i'll give you that, mb your not reading too much into this. mb you had already decided that Dirk was a dirty player BEFORE last night and your using that one act as the catalyst for your statements. fine, but it's not because of this ONE act alone and most people disagree with you.

therefore one must conclude that you had a predisposition to dislike Nowitzki BEFORE this act, hence it's not this act that makes you lose respect for Dirk but you never had respect for him to start with.

once again, read back over the thread, hardly anyone agrees with you.

 

[wyvrn]

What does everyone think about the game tonight? Think Dallas has a chance? Dirk isn't playing, so I think SA will have a reasonably easy time of it.

edit: posted here since this is the WCF thread..

 

[wyvrn]

Dallas making a late run of it...

 

[LeeTJ]

dallas has cut the lead to 6 and has the ball.

spurs really need to learn to hold a lead.

 

[monk3y]

Originally posted by: LeeTJ

spurs really need to learn to hold a lead.

I second that :evil:

 

[LeeTJ]

Originally posted by: InstincT

Originally posted by: LeeTJ

spurs really need to learn to hold a lead.

I second that :evil:

IF spurs manage to beat dallas and meets the mets in the finals they had better to a better job of holding the lead or things will look really good for NJ.

Kidd has been GOOD in the clutch so far.

 

[wyvrn]

What a shot by Nash!

 

[LeeTJ]

that shot by nash was unreal. it was scooped from his hightops yes?

 

[wyvrn]

Van Exel comes back with another nice shot.

 

[wyvrn]

Nash ties it!

Holy cow

 

[LeeTJ]

tie game duncan to the line. 4 of 10 so far this game.

damn wyvrn, i'm not sure that SA is a sure thing to go to the finals.