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NBA: New York Knicks sign Jamal Crawford (erick dampier expresses interest)

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http://www.suntimes.com/output/bulls/cst-spt-bull05.html

After verbally agreeing to a seven-year contract Wednesday that will pay him at least $56 million -- plus a potential $4 million more in bonuses -- Jamal Crawford has paved the way for the Bulls and New York Knicks to finally complete the six-player trade they agreed to in principle Monday night.
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Dampier expresses interest in signing with Knicks for MLE

If Dampier wants to join the Knicks, it likely will have to be for the mid-level exception, as many of the pieces that could be used in a sign-and-trade with the Warriors look headed to the Bulls in a deal for Jamal Crawford.

Dampier told the AP that he may be ready to consider a one-year contract.

"You get to a certain point in your life where the money's not a factor and you just want to win," he said. "I'm not getting any younger and I want to be in the playoffs so I have a chance to compete for a championship."
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hmm....the Knicks are certainly adding a lot of pieces to their team.

their potential starting 5:

PG: Marbury
SG: Crawford
SF: Houston
PF: Thomas
C: Mohammed

not bad at all. insert Damier at Center, and they might be scary. they also have some potential bench power: Vin Baker, Moochie Norris, Penny Hardaway.

considering NJ's demise, i'd say New York is going to be a powerhouse in the East..
 
wow nice, i bet everyone in ny is cheering isiah's name.

i'm upset that my nj nets are completely fux0rd and will be rebuilding the next few years 🙁 Prob until they move to brooklyn. (time to jump on the knicks bandwagon!)

In the east they def got a good shot at being at the top3 after detroit, and indy. However, against the west they'll still get crushed because they don't have enough good big men.
 
Notorious "Knick Hater" Chad Ford said today that the Knicks could easily be a 3/4th seed in the East.

Talking about jumping the wagon. :roll:

This could possibly be their best offseason ever; I don't think I'm gonna miss a game this year.

😉
 
iamme, Houston will most likely be starting at the 2.

So they're even deeper than they seem...

Here's their most probable '04-'05 starting lineup:

PG: Stephon Marbury, Moochie Norris
SG: Allan Houston, Jamal Crawford, Penny Hardaway
SF: Tim Thomas, Shandon Anderson, Trevor Ariza
PF: Kurt Thomas, Jerome Williams, Mike Sweetney
C: Erick Dampier, Nazr Mohammed, Vin Baker

Easily one of the deepest teams in the league.
 
Originally posted by: Nikamichi
iamme, Houston will most likely be starting at the 2.

So they're even deeper than they seem...

Here's their most probable '04-'05 starting lineup:

PG: Stephon Marbury, Moochie Norris
SG: Allan Houston, Jamal Crawford, Penny Hardaway
SF: Tim Thomas, Shandon Anderson, Trevor Ariza
PF: Kurt Thomas, Jerome Williams, Mike Sweetney
C: Erick Dampier, Nazr Mohammed, Vin Baker

Easily one of the deepest teams in the league.
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hmmm....you think Crawford will come off then bench?

8 mil/year is pretty expensive for a bench guy.
 
Hey, I may actually have to get Knicks tix next season. Of course, this also likely means that getting Knicks tix will once again be hard to come by.
 
Originally posted by: iamme

hmmm....you think Crawford will come off then bench?

8 mil/year is pretty expensive for a bench guy.
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Well, if Houston sits...he'll be the most expensive bench guy in the leauge with a salary of $17.5 mil.

I'm sure the plan is to have Crawford backup the 1 & 2, until Houston is gone.
 
Originally posted by: Nikamichi
Originally posted by: iamme

hmmm....you think Crawford will come off then bench?

8 mil/year is pretty expensive for a bench guy.
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Well, if Houston sits...he'll be the most expensive bench guy in the leauge with a salary of $17.5 mil.

I'm sure the plan is to have Crawford backup the 1 & 2, until Houston is gone.
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i wonder what kind of deal it will take to get Vince from Toronto.

of course the salaries have to match up. very, very interesting...
 
Originally posted by: iamme

i wonder what kind of deal it will take to get Vince from Toronto.

of course the salaries have to match up. very, very interesting...
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There are so many possibilities, I wouldn't even know where to begin. 😛

There's no way Toronto would do a straight up swap of VC for Houston (when healthy, VC > Houston; besides salaries don't match), and there is absolutely no way Isiah Thomas is gonna trade Marbury.

Reports have sprung up that Isiah is interested in VC, but who knows what it would take to get him?
He's not in the last year of his contract, so he doesn't have much say in his preferred destination (i.e. TMac, Shaq). The only way to find out, is to wait. :-/
 
That lineup isn't much at all...a front court of Kurt Thomas, Tim THomas, and Nazr Mohammed? Come on. When will teams learn not to depend on Vin Baker anyway? He hasn't been a force since he was on the Bucks. Also

Marbury is the guy they would have to trade to get Vince Carter - then Crawford starts at the point - I'd do that in a heartbeat if I was the Knicks.

Someone please tell Erick Dampier that if he is simply concerned with winning, he should sign with a winning team! -

The East next season - Detroit, Indy, Miami - clearly the top 3 teams. The next tier of teams is Milwaukee and....New Jersey, then you can pretty much take your pick - Cleveland should be better, even having gone thought the Boozer mess, with E.Snow added and Luke Jackson to give them some outside shooting, and Drew Gooden will at least help offset Boozer's betrayal....New York can certainly challenge for a playoff spot, but no way they get into the top 3 - 4th would be the best, but I'd say 7 or 8 is more likely.
 
Haven't been following basketball lately.
How good is Crawford that he can demand such a high salary?
He sounds good because of the replies here, but I am doubtful.
The Knicks are like the Mets. Always signing high priced players that underachieve.

They will be better this season, but still won't make it far.
At least management is showing that they want to improve.
 
Originally posted by: NeoV
That lineup isn't much at all...a front court of Kurt Thomas, Tim THomas, and Nazr Mohammed? Come on. When will teams learn not to depend on Vin Baker anyway? He hasn't been a force since he was on the Bucks. Also

Marbury is the guy they would have to trade to get Vince Carter - then Crawford starts at the point - I'd do that in a heartbeat if I was the Knicks.

Someone please tell Erick Dampier that if he is simply concerned with winning, he should sign with a winning team! -

The East next season - Detroit, Indy, Miami - clearly the top 3 teams. The next tier of teams is Milwaukee and....New Jersey, then you can pretty much take your pick - Cleveland should be better, even having gone thought the Boozer mess, with E.Snow added and Luke Jackson to give them some outside shooting, and Drew Gooden will at least help offset Boozer's betrayal....New York can certainly challenge for a playoff spot, but no way they get into the top 3 - 4th would be the best, but I'd say 7 or 8 is more likely.
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Sooo lets see here. NJ loses Martin and is on the verge of losing Kidd and they are better than the Knicks. The Cavaliers, who lost their best big man and missed the playoffs last year, are better than the Knicks (who made the playoffs and have added a lot of talent). I see the Knicks as a 4th seed next year, possibly 3rd if they can get Dampier as well. To say they likely wil lbe 7th or 8th is just ignorant.
 
Originally posted by: BlamoHammer
Originally posted by: NeoV
That lineup isn't much at all...a front court of Kurt Thomas, Tim THomas, and Nazr Mohammed? Come on. When will teams learn not to depend on Vin Baker anyway? He hasn't been a force since he was on the Bucks. Also

Marbury is the guy they would have to trade to get Vince Carter - then Crawford starts at the point - I'd do that in a heartbeat if I was the Knicks.

Someone please tell Erick Dampier that if he is simply concerned with winning, he should sign with a winning team! -

The East next season - Detroit, Indy, Miami - clearly the top 3 teams. The next tier of teams is Milwaukee and....New Jersey, then you can pretty much take your pick - Cleveland should be better, even having gone thought the Boozer mess, with E.Snow added and Luke Jackson to give them some outside shooting, and Drew Gooden will at least help offset Boozer's betrayal....New York can certainly challenge for a playoff spot, but no way they get into the top 3 - 4th would be the best, but I'd say 7 or 8 is more likely.
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Sooo lets see here. NJ loses Martin and is on the verge of losing Kidd and they are better than the Knicks. The Cavaliers, who lost their best big man and missed the playoffs last year, are better than the Knicks (who made the playoffs and have added a lot of talent). I see the Knicks as a 4th seed next year, possibly 3rd if they can get Dampier as well. To say they likely wil lbe 7th or 8th is just ignorant.
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i've got to agree with blamohammer here, i can't imagine NJ even making the playoffs next season. don't forget they lost Kerry Kittles, their only outside shooting threat, too. hell, i wouldn't be surprised if Kidd demands out of there.

with NY, it's all a matter of chemistry. just like Dallas, a bunch of big names doesn't guarantee success. but, this is the best talent NY has had in a while...i put NY right behind the top 3. somewhere in 4-6 territory.
 
Allan Houston is a shell of the player he used to be...Tim Thomas looks great in the uniform, but check the stats, he's yet to have a good season. Nazr Mohammed? Average at best. Kurt Thomas? Not too bad, but undersized for a PF. Marbury is Marbury, and yes, it would be nice to have Crawford coming off the bench, but I'm guessing that Houston will be the guy coming off the pine. Crawford did have a 50pt game last year, but Tony Delk had a few 50pt games in his career as well - I'm not sure Crawford is worth that kind of cash. If they get Carter for Marbury, then yes, I'd say they are the 4th best team in the East, but until then, I'm sticking with a more-likely 7 or 8 finish. Isiah is trying, but his predecessor was one of the worst drafting GM's in the last 10 years.

New Jersey lost Kenyon Martin and Kerry Kittles, but they still have Richard Jefferson and Kidd - L.Harris steps in for Kittles, which is basically a wash, and Aaron Williams and Nenad Kristic, while not the offensive force that Martin was, will more than hold their own on the boards.

I'd still put the Bucks ahead of the Knicks too, assuming TJ Ford is able to play.

Cavs may have lost Boozer, but they are one of only 3 teams in the East with a legit center in Big Z - he scored at will against the Knicks last season..Yes, the Cavs missed the playoffs, but their team underwent major changes during the season...once they got rid of Ricky Davis, then picked up Jeff McGinnis, they had one of the best records in the league until McGinnis got hurt - and now they have Eric Snow as insurance for him. Gooden was a nice pickup too given the hole at PF.

And Blamo, I said the Knicks could finish as high as 4th, so lets not get carried away with the ignorant statments - I promise you I know plenty about basketball.
 
ANYWAYS! No one in the east besides Detroit has a shot to beat the best in the west. Spurs/twolves.
 
Originally posted by: NeoV
Allan Houston is a shell of the player he used to be...Tim Thomas looks great in the uniform, but check the stats, he's yet to have a good season. Nazr Mohammed? Average at best. Kurt Thomas? Not too bad, but undersized for a PF. Marbury is Marbury, and yes, it would be nice to have Crawford coming off the bench, but I'm guessing that Houston will be the guy coming off the pine. Crawford did have a 50pt game last year, but Tony Delk had a few 50pt games in his career as well - I'm not sure Crawford is worth that kind of cash. If they get Carter for Marbury, then yes, I'd say they are the 4th best team in the East, but until then, I'm sticking with a more-likely 7 or 8 finish. Isiah is trying, but his predecessor was one of the worst drafting GM's in the last 10 years.

New Jersey lost Kenyon Martin and Kerry Kittles, but they still have Richard Jefferson and Kidd - L.Harris steps in for Kittles, which is basically a wash, and Aaron Williams and Nenad Kristic, while not the offensive force that Martin was, will more than hold their own on the boards.

I'd still put the Bucks ahead of the Knicks too, assuming TJ Ford is able to play.

Cavs may have lost Boozer, but they are one of only 3 teams in the East with a legit center in Big Z - he scored at will against the Knicks last season..Yes, the Cavs missed the playoffs, but their team underwent major changes during the season...once they got rid of Ricky Davis, then picked up Jeff McGinnis, they had one of the best records in the league until McGinnis got hurt - and now they have Eric Snow as insurance for him. Gooden was a nice pickup too given the hole at PF.

And Blamo, I said the Knicks could finish as high as 4th, so lets not get carried away with the ignorant statments - I promise you I know plenty about basketball.
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Really? You promise?
 
Originally posted by: psteng19
Originally posted by: cw42
ANYWAYS! No one in the east besides Detroit has a shot to beat the best in the west. Spurs/twolves.
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Miami :roll:
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Miami is better with the addition of Shaq for sure, but they're not the same calibre of team as the Spurs are.
 
No powerhouse. Now they have two PGs who don't play like PGs. Both of them need lots of minutes and shots to play well. Crawford had decent games last season when he was paired up with Hinrich who knows how to share the ball.

Dampier's numbers are deceptive because he played for a crappy team. Just look at Danny Fortson who averaged 11 pts. 11 brds. in the 01/02 season and look at where he is now.

With Shaq in Miami now, its gonna be tough for the Knicks to retake the Atlantic Div. unless they can somehow get a healthy Carter. That'll definitely be a Knicks team worth watching again.
 
Originally posted by: ky2pip
No powerhouse. Now they have two PGs who don't play like PGs. Both of them need lots of minutes and shots to play well. Crawford had decent games last season when he was paired up with Hinrich who knows how to share the ball.

Dampier's numbers are deceptive because he played for a crappy team. Just look at Danny Fortson who averaged 11 pts. 11 brds. in the 01/02 season and look at where he is now.

With Shaq in Miami now, its gonna be tough for the Knicks to retake the Atlantic Div. unless they can somehow get a healthy Carter. That'll definitely be a Knicks team worth watching again.
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healthy Carter....isn't that an oxymoron? 😛
 
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