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Nba: Knicks D'Antoni resigns

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Sucks that Amare is still having problems too, I remember in Phoenix he had some games where he was tremendously dominant but too often he looked like he was just kind of 'half there'. I dunno if he was just disinterested in the game or was resigned to losing or tired or what.
 
darkewaffle said:
Sucks that Amare is still having problems too, I remember in Phoenix he had some games where he was tremendously dominant but too often he looked like he was just kind of 'half there'. I dunno if he was just disinterested in the game or was resigned to losing or tired or what.
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It's called not playing defense. 😉
 
Always liked him as a person but it doesn't look like his system is ever going to work in the NBA. It had some successful days in Phoenix but overall his system just doesn't work. I would not hire him as a Coach but i'm sure he'll get a job before too long.
 
fustercluck said:
Always liked him as a person but it doesn't look like his system is ever going to work in the NBA. It had some successful days in Phoenix but overall his system just doesn't work. I would not hire him as a Coach but i'm sure he'll get a job before too long.
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Some success?

I think you better look up his record again.
 
Best overall record 3 times (I think), 2 conference finals, getting screwed by Stern when they were the best team in the NBA, plus being the most entertaining NBA team I've ever seen is not "success"?
 
Red Storm said:
Considering they didn't win a title, let alone even make it to the finals during that time, I'm inclined to agree with him.
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There's different measures of success; he didn't win a title, but he was he was brought into an injured team that went 20-40 under his first incomplete season as head coach and essentially turned them into a team that won almost or over 70% of their games each season he was head coach for the next four years.

It's almost analogous to the Barkley era really; while they never won a title they were by most accounts a successful team. In those years they were plagued by Jordan and Olajuwon, and D'Antoni had Bryant and Duncan.
 
I, in no certain terms, am certain that Oden will be playing 75+ games next year and will be an all-star. Homer pride!

I just spent the last year in Chicago. Everyone praises Rose like he just gave them a new house. It's sick.
 
Watching MSG press conference, seeing what Grunwald says vs. Woodson, and I kind of think D'Antoni wanted to bench Melo, talked with management, and he was booted because of that.

Sounds like there was essentially a CAA / Melo / Baron Davis / JR Smith / Woodson toppling of D'Antoni.

Woodson said he is going to implement changes over time (get ball to Melo and Stat more tonight), but I am also kind of wondering whether Lin is going to bench eventually so Baron Davis can start.

Looks like really bad situation, because I read that Lin / Fields / Chandler / Stat / Jeffries (don't know where Novak stood) were really behind D'Antoni's offensive schemes.
 
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mshan said:
Looks like really bad situation, because I read that Lin / Fields / Chandler / Stat / Jeffries (don't know where Novak stood) were really behind D'Antoni's offensive schemes.
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D'Antoni needed to go, and I like the guy. He couldn't build anything to utilize Melo's unique talents. In the NBA the coach has to cater to the players and not the other way around.

Great coaching versus terrible coaching is worth maybe a 10% swing in W/L. It is more than enough to be the difference between lottery and playoffs, and enough to be the difference between playoffs and the championship. But it isn't anywhere near as important as a single player can be to the team. Lebron leaving Cleveland was the difference between 61 wins and 19 wins the following year.

The players make the difference, and you need a coach that at worst won't get in the way, or at best shines on their strengths and can help cover their weaknesses.
 
According to this (http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2012/03/14/dantoni-out-woodson-in-as-knicks-interim-coach/?ls=iref%3Anbahpt1), D'Antoni's last act was to ask for Melo to be traded to the Nets for Deron Williams:
"A source with knowledge of the discussions says D’Antoni and Knicks chairman James Dolan mutually agreed to terminate D’Antoni’s job with New York after the two met this morning. D’Antoni, the source said, had been advocating that the Knicks attempt to trade Anthony to the New Jersey Nets for guard Deron Williams, a deal D’Antoni believed would be beneficial for both franchises. But Dolan categorically declined that request, and the “conflicting visions” between the owner and head coach about Anthony meant there was no way forward.

D’Antoni had hoped the Knicks’ inspired and winning play with Lin as the centerpiece — while Anthony and Stoudemire were injured — would convince Dolan the Knicks could win without Anthony. Bringing Williams from the Nets would also have eases the burden on Lin, D’Antoni believed, allowing Lin to settle into a three-guard rotation."
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Via said:
Best overall record 3 times (I think), 2 conference finals, getting screwed by Stern when they were the best team in the NBA, plus being the most entertaining NBA team I've ever seen is not "success"?
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That was D'Antoni's best season/team, when they got denied to the finals by Stern. His system needs very specific types of players though, like Nash. The planets have to align just right for his type of system to work. It's too hard to find ALL the right players to play all the right roles. I hope he finds success, though.
 
fustercluck said:
That was D'Antoni's best season/team, when they got denied to the finals by Stern. His system needs very specific types of players though, like Nash. The planets have to align just right for his type of system to work. It's too hard to find ALL the right players to play all the right roles. I hope he finds success, though.
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The D'Antoni system needs shooters, the more the better. You can't space and pace without guys stretching the defense out. The NBA is a much better place for having D'Antoni as most every team runs a variation of his offense, so much so that most teams now run a variation of the defense designed to stop his offense.
 
Carmelo is a real inefficient player, takes bad shots & makes a lot of bad decisions, he messed up the good karma / chemistry the Knicks had when he returned to the lineup.
 
Shlong said:
Carmelo is a real inefficient player, takes bad shots & makes a lot of bad decisions, he messed up the good karma / chemistry the Knicks had when he returned to the lineup.
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That and he messed up a long streak of playing almost all sub .500 teams and home games. He knocked the Knicks right into playing a bunch of .500+ teams and road games, sometimes both at the same time! His inefficiency knows no bounds.
 
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