You clearly don't understand our doctrine or our mission. MPs are some of the most deployed forces in the world. The Army Reserve makes up the majority of the Military Police Corps. You see us on the large bases because we secure those too. We are there when units arrive, we are there after they leave. You simply don't understand our mission and our OPTEMPO, and that's fine, neither do most others.
The National Guard don't have substantial numbers of Military Police by the way, there's this law on the books called Posse Comitatus, not to mention the Title 10 and Title 32 laws. But keep acting like you know, it briefs well to people on the Internet. While we're at it, if you KNOW like you say you do, go right on ahead and disclose your background like I have so I can KNOW you're full of shit.
Also, who gives a fuck how many females are strong enough? How does that enter into the discussion when two have clearly met that standard of being "strong enough".
Also, can we stop with using this "elite" word, please? It's a made up word in this discussion. It's a media word, not a doctrinal military term. There is no standard in the military in any law, policy, or regulation that specifies someone must be "elite" to be in a certain role. It's a bullshit, weasel word in this case like when racist assholes want to say that a black man "speaks well" to try to sound accepting of their presence in their white washed world. "Oh, she's okay to do that role since she's 'elite' now."
There are different types of "deployments". Living the high life on a big base with a chow hall, having AC, running water, MWR, PX, mail, etc is hardly a deployment to me. You're what we call a "Fobbit". Living life on a FOB. There are zero females in my unit, but that's because we're a combat unit. Where as you have females.
I am not full of shit, I have dealt with this first hand. I just don't go around bragging, that's not me. I don't even like talking about it much. I am not going to go comparing awards and medals with you. I will say I am in the Marine Corps. I have pictures and whatever else to back up anything I say. Elite is a usable word, it is used by the units themselves. But thats besides the point. The point(s) are that inserting a female into a small unit of troops that are entrenched in combat will create problems. I have seen it. And that females are not on average strong enough to do the job of such teams, squads, or whatever else you want to call them. I have seen that too. Linking what I said to being racist is a huge stretch. You're not the first one to ignorantly attempt to slander me like that.
I don't know much about Army standards, except they're easier than ours. For the PFT (Physical Fitness Test) women just this year are allowed to do pullups instead of flex arm hangs for our PFT, the minimum is 3. 55% of women couldn't even do 3. If men can't, they're kicked out. Perfect score for men is 20 pullups, for women it is 9. Women get 3 extra minutes to do the 3 mile run in the PFT. They get no extra time for crunches and they have to do the same amount as men. For the CFT (Combat Fitness Test) women get 46 extra seconds over men to do the 880 yard dash. They only have to do 20 30lbs ammo can lifts where men have to do 45. For the maneuver under fire women get 1:28 more time than men do. For the obstacles course and endurance courses there are separate ones for male and female on things such as the walls, ropes, etc. They are lower, easier to do. Notice a trend? Women do less in just about every single aspect of physical training. Why is that? Draw your own conclusion. Oh, and ZERO women have passed the first day of Marine Corps IOC. The first fucking day. Every single one dropped out. And these were some pretty beastly women, some are athletes from college.
Once again, this is not a slight in any way towards women. If women were as strong and fast as men, we would see them compete with each other in sports. Women would get embarrassed. As I said before, I believe there are jobs women can do better than men. And vice versa. There are things my girl is better at than I am, and I don't care to admit it. Not only is strength and stamina a concern, but I would argue that the bigger concern is the incredibly tight knit brotherhood within a small team or squads. The things that are said in such groups would blow most peoples minds. The logistical issue of having to have separate sleeping, and hygiene quarters. If we're out training we sometimes get tents. Two men to a tent, unless you're higher ranked. Guess what, some brand new PFC female would have to get her own tent. Do you think that would piss off a Cpl? Hell yeah it would, and rightly so. She doesn't rate her own tent. We had one "bathroom" on one deployment, which was half of a 7' hesco. We shit in wag bags and then threw it in a fire just past our wire. We had another just like it, but it was our whack shack. Went in there to beat off. Magazines, and lotion was all that was in there. Crude? Maybe, but it is a part of a mans life. I could go on and on. I fully understand that my experiences are the very small percentage. I also understand that it would be detrimental for a women to be in a place like that.
I bet she (and many others) can do it better than most men in the world.
Do you think she works out almost daily? Has all the supplements she can get? Gets proper sleep? Guess what, that doesn't happen in real war. I lost 30lbs because of those aspects. All the gym muscle from lifting weights and taking protein? Gone. Her and anyone else gets weaker once you are down range without those nice little things. That is just a fact. People on big bases have a gym and the other things. It is like life on States side, fucking Dominos and Burger King. It's pathetic. But that is a different life. The fact is she and anyone else would lose weight and be weaker within weeks. How skinny and strong do you think she is without all that training? Not very strong. On the average a man will be stronger than a female without all the training and extra things it takes to build muscle.
You've done a pretty good job of proving your ignorance thus far, but I guess I will make it very simple for you.
Responding to your earlier post, this is a good example of how the USMC will make sure the status quo remains as is. Keep training standards and overall expectations sub par for their women Marines, and there should be a lot fewer worries about one ever passing their officer training.
You're funny. The standards for women are lower, because they are slower and weaker on average. I pointed out the differences above. If they had the same requirements as men, most women would get kicked out of the Corps. That is a fact. In almost every PT exercise or requirement they get more time, and get to do less reps. There shouldn't be different standards for IOC, are you saying there should be?
