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Navy removes Captain of USS Roosevelt

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imported_tajmahal said:
I just don't understand this. Just because the Captain of an aircraft carrier went outside the chain of command, caused panic on his ship and released classified military information to a newspaper isn't cause to relieve him of his job.
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Ach, I know in your limited little mind you might think that - but do you really think the sailors on board give two f**ks what the REMFs in the Pentagon think about a letter?

I'm also interested in knowing what classified information was released? That right now the US Armed Services are every bit as f**ked as the general country? Anyone with more than 10 brain cells can figure that one out for themselves.
 
The fact that revealing that his ship is in a low state of readiness and that it will deteriorate over time is harmful to US national security is in some academic sense true, and his letter basically acknowledges this. His point though is that we aren’t at war and there is no imminent threat of war so preserving the lives of his sailors is the primary consideration.

Anyone who has been on a ship knows it would be almost impossible to prevent the spread of a disease like this on it. You’re stacked three high and six to a cube in berthing, people eat in diner booths on the mess decks, etc. Also, only a moron would say this letter would cause panic on the ship as if the people on it didn’t already know what was happening.

I’m pretty sure the captain knew he would be fired for doing this. Most likely he asked to take the crew off the ship and was denied and then wrote this letter and leaked it. Good for him for putting his sailors before his career - he will be remembered well for this if that’s what happened.
 
The Captain appears to have shown actual leadership as in doing the right thing even if it did not personally benefit him or in this case was actually harmful to him.

I can understand why taj is stumped by that.
 
this isn't just the navy or trump but prevalent among many organizations

www.bloomberg.com

Hospitals Tell Doctors They’ll Be Fired If They Speak Out About Lack of Gear

"I spoke out for patient safety and as a result I got terminated."
www.bloomberg.com www.bloomberg.com

If Democrats, especially governors in those states where this corporate mentality is prevalent, can put an end to this and show Trump how they won't stand for whistle blowers being fired instead of virtue signaling for political points.
 
1prophet said:
If Democrats, especially governors in those states where this corporate mentality is prevalent, can put an end to this and show Trump how they won't stand for whistle blowers being fired instead of virtue signaling for political points.
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Do Repub-led states not have a "corporate mentality"? How so?

You make good points sometimes, but taint it to no end with your "Dems are the worst!!!" rhetoric.
 
Sounds like Trump told Navy to make an example out of him. He doesn't seem to be enjoy people discussing how he screwed the pooch for 6 weeks while blaming Dems for some kind of hoax. Reporters are chasing him off stage with perfectly rational questions and his own quotes. Donny can't have that treatment coming from the bunch of losers and dummies he calls the military.
 
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The guy sent his memo over unsecured channels, included 20-30 additional people, and his leadership didn't find out about the memo until they were reading it in the paper.

He made major mistakes and should have known.
 
Printed Circuit Bro said:
The guy sent his memo over unsecured channels, included 20-30 additional people, and his leadership didn't find out about the memo until they were reading it in the paper.

He made major mistakes and should have known.
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He sent the letter because the Navy made major mistakes condemning his crew and would not allow him to take appropriate action to protect them.
 
interchange said:
He sent the letter because the Navy made major mistakes condemning his crew and would not allow him to take appropriate action to protect them.
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He broke protocol and is paying the price. What did he expect the Navy to do?? Let him break protocol at such a high level and go unchallenged as an example to everyone else that you can do whatever you want including using unsecured communications channels? Lol?

The Navy was already offloading a bunch of sailors from that ship for over a week when the captain sent this message.
 
UNCjigga said:
I get the sneaking suspicion a certain Cadet Bone Spurs didn’t take kindly to the captain’s “cry for help” letter leading to the press after hundreds of sailors contracted Coronavirus and the ship was left docked in limbo while higher ups dithered on how to handle it.
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Most people in the chain of command, long before it gets to POTUS, would "fire" that Captain for breaking protocol. It's the military, I safely presume you do not step out of line and keep your position - even if that position is to sit idle and eat !@#$ on a disease ridden ship.
 
Printed Circuit Bro said:
He broke protocol and is paying the price. What did he expect the Navy to do?? Let him break protocol at such a high level and go unchallenged as an example to everyone else that you can do whatever you want including using unsecured communications channels? Lol?
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If he fully expected to be fired for saving the lives of his crew then he's even more of a hero.
 
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