NAVSEA Shooter - DC

[MomentsofSanity]

Do you expect people to blame the type of gun used in this incident? Some believe that if only a certain type of gun were removed from our possession, then these events wouldn't take place.

Why not start yet another gun control thread if that's what you want to discuss?

 

[spidey07]

Do you expect people to blame the type of gun used in this incident? Some believe that if only a certain type of gun were removed from our possession, then these events wouldn't take place.

The media is already "reporting" it's an AR15 which fires 3 round bursts automatically and 100s of bullets a minute.

 

[Nintendesert]

Yeah, AR-15 firing 3 round bursts... maybe it was an M-16 from the armory.

 

[Theb]

Probably one shooter since they always report multiple shooters initially and it never ends up being the case, but we'll see.

 

[CPA]

I read it's a safe building so these people are insiders.
I wonder if it's like another hasan or just people going postal?

I could see one person going postal, but multiple?

 

[Jaskalas]

Nothing to see here folks, just another case of Workplace Violence.

 

[hal2kilo]

Just got an email from our HR that all our people were safe and accounted for. PHEW!

I knew my boss was Ok because he's traveling today to visit my site.

Man, someone inside must have cracked. The security there is very tight.

 

[trenchfoot]

Yeah, AR-15 firing 3 round bursts... maybe it was an M-16 from the armory.

Never liked those three-peaters and I never will. One more selector to ignore.

Funny how those news folks sometimes make asses of themselves and don't even know it.

 

[Kaido]

Just got an email from our HR that all our people were safe and accounted for. PHEW!

I knew my boss was Ok because he's traveling today to visit my site.

Man, someone inside must have cracked. The security there is very tight.

Thank goodness, it's always crazy when it hits close to home. I had a couple buddies in the Boston Marathon and fortunately neither were hurt. It's always news when you read it, until it happens to you or someone you know and then the craziness really sinks in

 

[Tom]

Never liked those three-peaters and I never will. One more selector to ignore.

Funny how those news folks sometimes make asses of themselves and don't even know it.

It is obvious that a reporter at this time isn't going to know what gun they are using, and that they aren't likely to be gun experts.

That doesn't make them "asses".

 

[waggy]

It is obvious that a reporter at this time isn't going to know what gun they are using, and that they aren't likely to be gun experts.

That doesn't make them "asses".

I have to agree. I do find it funny but i don't think they are "asses".

Though i do wish they would keep quite about what type UNTIl facts are in.

 

[TerryMathews]

Reporting incorrect information most certainly does make them asses.

 

[Lithium381]

It is obvious that a reporter at this time isn't going to know what gun they are using, and that they aren't likely to be gun experts.

That doesn't make them "asses".

If they don't know then reporting false information or speculation does make them "asses".

 

[waggy]

though this is a sad situation. When is this "workplace violence" going to end?

 

[jpeyton]

It is obvious that a reporter at this time isn't going to know what gun they are using, and that they aren't likely to be gun experts.

 

[Kaido]

though this is a sad situation. When is this "workplace violence" going to end?

Never. It's human nature. As long as someone out there has been extremely offended and doesn't have the mental stops in place to prevent them from going postal, then this will keep happening. And it's not something we can stop without severely limiting certain freedoms that we currently enjoy.

The thing I always compare it to was my senior thesis back in high school - I was shocked to learn that we killed 40,000 Americans on US soil simply from highway accidents, and the simple solution was to limit top speed to 20 MPH and make same-height bumpers mandatory - we'd hardly kill anyone that way! And if you combined that with stuff like Volvo's pedestrian avoidance system they have on their new cars, it'd be nearly zero. But, it would limit our ability to get from Point A to Point B in 5 minutes instead of 15 minutes, and the majority of people aren't willing to sacrifice that freedom. Like Heath Ledger's Joker said in Batman, people accept losses as long as it's all part of the plan. It's unfortunate, but that's how we operate. We could make self-driving cars for the cities and Elon Musk Hyperloop systems between the cities, but that would require (expensive) change and people are used to what we have now.

So as terrible as it is, I don't think we can ever 100% stop stuff like this. Despite all the stuff coming out about the NSA like Prism and all that jazz, people like the Boston Marathon bombers can still slip through the cracks and wreck havoc. And even if we could stop it, we'd end up with something like Minority Report, which opens up a whole new can of worms. I wish it wasn't that way, but I don't think anyone can offer a bulletproof system (no pun intended) for protecting people from this type of violence.

 

[bshole]

Do you expect people to blame the type of gun used in this incident? Some believe that if only a certain type of gun were removed from our possession, then these events wouldn't take place.

Not really, I think most of those people think guns should be regulated like machine guns. They believe that would eradicate gun violence in America.

 

[xBiffx]

Not really, I think most of those people think guns should be regulated like machine guns. They believe that would eradicate gun violence in America.

"Machine guns" not found. To get one requires clearing a hell of a lot of red tape.

 

[allisolm]

Mayor says 12 fatalities plus others wounded. Still looking for 2 suspects.

 

[moonbogg]

One dead gunman was an employee who's work status was changed a few months ago, as reported by someone somewhere from some news place that I already forgot about. Maybe, if true, it WAS just workplace violence. Americans are pretty nutty nowadays you know. Killing people isn't a big deal anymore. Hell, our kids do it just for fun!
Its strange because on the surface America is so modern and sophisticated, but then this stuff happens all the damn time. I can't figure it out....actually I can but saying it here won't get me anywhere.

 

[OCGuy]

Could we possibly be adding this incident to the list of government trained people causing indiscriminate harm? I'll dust off the list here in a minute if it turns out that way.

 

[Kaido]

Mayor says 12 fatalities plus others wounded. Still looking for 2 suspects.

I can't fathom that anyone would actually do something like this, outside of a movie character :thumbsdown:

 

[Tom]

If they don't know then reporting false information or speculation does make them "asses".

No it doesn't. An "ass" is someone who is hypercritical and ignores or doesn't possess enough common sense to understand that a news person isn't going to know what weapons are being used during an ongoing crime and that they are reporting what they are being told by witnesses and/or law enforcement sources, and saying that is the case, btw.

What I am commenting on, and not exclusively to you, btw, is, unwarranted personal attacks on people because a poster thinks they have superior knowledge or ability that makes them feel superior to whoever it is they are attacking.

And that, is being an ass. Reporters making mistakes isn't being an ass. Its being human.

 

[xBiffx]

Fine, they aren't asses. They're just incompetent. Happy now?

Don't we all wish we could do our jobs as half assed as they do. Oh damn, there's that word again.

 

[ivwshane]

I'm sure this is just a case of the media demonizing guns and it caused people to panic when they saw a guy or two walking around with a gun, which then spooked the gun carriers and caused them to start shooting people.

Had people just remained calmed and not scared of the sight of a gun there probably wouldn't have been any problems.

/s