Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: exdeath
Don't like Bush or this country?
Move.
There is only one country in the world like the USA and if you can't see the better parts of it, LEAVE.
There are plenty of socialist/pacifist havens in other parts of the world that might cater to you:
Europe, Cuba, Sweden, California, etc.
There are 100s of places that you might like better, but there is only one USA and I choose to stay here. How dare you try to destroy it. I have no where else to go.
My only complaints regarding Bush are:
1) Why only Iraq? Lets take care of Saudi, North Korea, Iran, etc.
2) Keep illegals OUT. I could care less about legitimate immigrants wanting work, but the ones that come here illegally think they are entitled to free handouts from our government and make my taxes higher. They also think because they arent citizens they don't have to obey our laws, do whatever they want, and scurry back to Mexico so they can't be held acountable. Oh yeah, drive a 6000 lb truck at 90 mph in a 35 weaving in and out of cars, pushing people off the road, rear end somebody, and run; then go home and laugh about it with your friends with a few beers.
3) Stop with the 'every life is precious' bullshit and don't interfere with private matters (abortion, the Terri Shaivo thing, etc) Some lives ARE worth more than others, some people are better of not living and should have the right to choose, and no life is worth more than certain things like, say, the liberties provided by the constitution. Life is not THAT precious; it is actually quite cheap and abundant.
Ladies and gentlemen, the classic example of a nationalist/racist type of Republican. These Republicans don't want new people coming to this country (and though I'm against immigration this overlaps frequently with them with racism). They think the US should nuke everyone and are as anti-christian values as you can get.
Most certainly not racist, but if you can come to Tucson, AZ and show me where increasingly large numbers of anonymous Vietnamese, Canadians, Chinese, Africans, Iraqis, Russians, Indians, or even Canadians (since they share a border) are sneaking across the border and nonchalantly disregarding even the most common laws and scurrying into hiding like roaches en mass in order to avoid any accountability or responsibility when they cause damage or injury to someone else, I'll consider your judgment.
Don't confuse racism with political incorrectness. Calling a spade a spade when you see a spade and not trying to make polite out of a known issue is a little different than the blind illogical hatred based on genetics that racism is.
If you curious as to my solution, it isn?t nuking Mexico either, not putting a wall up or any of that nonsense. Simply take away the incentive that drives them to come here illegally. Try abolishing welfare and other socialist programs and holding anyone in this country accountable to the law regardless of citizenship or not, instead of slapping them on the wrist and deporting them so they can come back again tomorrow unpunished. The problem is they want all the benefits of being a citizen (free government handouts, higher wage jobs, American quality of life) with the immunity that comes from not being a citizen (don?t have to obey laws, no taxes, paid under the table, etc); this is unacceptable. American citizenship isnt a salad bar that you can pick and choose what benefits you and leave the rest.
I am not religious at all. As far as christian values, I would say that most of those values are common sense, but I despise religion. Anything that can cause a person to make major decisions while disregarding facts and logic is the root of evil, and religion seems to be a major cause of problems in the world. For you christians, I do know however that the original christian commandment is not "thou shall not kill" it was "thou shall not murder" and there is a clear distinction between killing (taking life, sometimes even mandated in the bible) and murder (killing out of spite, malice, hatred, etc) and regardless of how horrible or great you think killing someone is, there are factions of people in the world that can only be dealt with by death. Why? Blind religious devotion causes them to ignore any rational thought or compromise. It isn't pretty, but thats how it has been for how long now?
Evil is simply evil, hell-bent on destroying everything including themselves to achieve something, or nothing. Good is exercised by someone who, bound by no religious or moral obligations is capable of either good or evil, willfully chooses to be good, regardless of personal gain or loss. Such a person also acknowledges that there is evil in the world that can only be dealt with via evil, however unpleasant.
An exceptional display of this is an American soldier killing 100s of islamofacists and 5 minutes later comfort an injured stranger in Iraq.
All I'm saying is there are alot more places in the world than Iraq, and I don't like Bush's policy that Iraq is the only bad place in the world worth using the big stick on when there are other places, some even more dangerous. One theory is that seeding freedom in the middle east will cause a muslim uprising that will spread freedom and prosperity like a plauge just like it did in the former soviet union... but I'm not that patient when it comes to people making threats to me. Your mileage may vary.
